Re: [Debconf-team] Plan to organise a one-day workshop pre-DebConf

2015-07-16 Thread Zlatan Todoric
On 07/16/2015 08:49 PM, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Zlatan Todoric [2015-07-16 20:28 > +0200]: >>> 1. to differentiate it from a free offering, since — and we >>> all know this — something that's free cannot be as good as >>> something that one has to pay money for. >> >> Well, not al

Re: [Debconf-team] Plan to organise a one-day workshop pre-DebConf

2015-07-16 Thread Philip Hands
Zlatan Todoric writes: > On 07/16/2015 06:55 PM, martin f krafft wrote: > >> >> 1. to differentiate it from a free offering, since — and we all >> know this — something that's free cannot be as good as something >> that one has to pay money for. > > Well, not all. You see, I am a Debian user a

Re: [Debconf-team] Plan to organise a one-day workshop pre-DebConf

2015-07-16 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Zlatan Todoric [2015-07-16 20:28 +0200]: > > 1. to differentiate it from a free offering, since — and we all > >know this — something that's free cannot be as good as > >something that one has to pay money for. > > Well, not all. You see, I am a Debian user and although it > p

Re: [Debconf-team] Plan to organise a one-day workshop pre-DebConf

2015-07-16 Thread Zlatan Todoric
On 07/16/2015 06:55 PM, martin f krafft wrote: > > 1. to differentiate it from a free offering, since — and we all > know this — something that's free cannot be as good as something > that one has to pay money for. Well, not all. You see, I am a Debian user and although it primarily is Free

Re: [Debconf-team] Plan to organise a one-day workshop pre-DebConf

2015-07-16 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Bernelle Verster [2015-07-16 15:48 +0200]: > For what it's worth, bearing in mind that I am new to DebConf, > I think this is a good idea, and I would like to know more about > how the first workshop went, and if it happens again in August, > how that one went. The first workshop was

Re: [Debconf-team] Plan to organise a one-day workshop pre-DebConf

2015-07-16 Thread Martín Ferrari
Bernelle, On 16/07/15 15:48, Bernelle Verster wrote: > Stating explicitly that this is independent is needed, just to cover > bases. On the other hand I see no problem with it being associated > with DebConf. It's Debian associated, and a conference-related > activity. Indeed, and that's why I s

Re: [Debconf-team] Plan to organise a one-day workshop pre-DebConf

2015-07-16 Thread Martín Ferrari
On 14/07/15 18:21, martin f krafft wrote: > This was well received > and we've been planning to repeat the offering just before > DebConf15. I've mentioned this numerous times in the past, but now > we've finally made a move. I have missed these discussions, can you please refer me to them? --

Re: [Debconf-team] Plan to organise a one-day workshop pre-DebConf

2015-07-16 Thread Bernelle Verster
Hi For what it's worth, bearing in mind that I am new to DebConf, I think this is a good idea, and I would like to know more about how the first workshop went, and if it happens again in August, how that one went. (I have not replied privately before) My thoughts: Stating explicitly that this is

Re: [Debconf-team] Plan to organise a one-day workshop pre-DebConf

2015-07-16 Thread Martín Ferrari
On 16/07/15 14:57, martin f krafft wrote: > Oh? I wasn't aware of this opinion of "DebConf", and I've received > two private replies so far from orga team members who thought the > idea was great and who offered their support. Sadly, I did not see them. Ask them to speak up publicly then, and we c

Re: [Debconf-team] Plan to organise a one-day workshop pre-DebConf

2015-07-16 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Martín Ferrari [2015-07-16 14:45 +0200]: > I already feel pretty disappointed that this is happening in such > proximity to DebConf (and specially DebCamp), and therefore being > implicitly associated with the conference. We can't stop you from > doing it, but DebConf has nothing to do

Re: [Debconf-team] Plan to organise a one-day workshop pre-DebConf

2015-07-16 Thread Martín Ferrari
On 14/07/15 18:21, martin f krafft wrote: > All of the organisation is independent of DebConf15 (i.e. finances > are separate, we've booked a room with the hostel, etc.), but we're > obviously hoping to advertise this in the context of DebConf15. While this workshop might be very useful for the b