Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf anti-harassment policy

2010-12-03 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Herman Robak dijo [Fri, Dec 03, 2010 at 03:00:23PM +0100]: > (...) > Dropping any pretense of neutrality for a moment; the goal is > to avoid making women feel awkward or intimidated by sleazy and > sexist stuff. I support that goal. Let's debate the suitable > means to that end. > > > As to 2)

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf anti-harassment policy

2010-12-03 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Moray Allan dijo [Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 10:45:15PM +]: > (...) > On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Herman Robak wrote: > > 1) I suggest that the scope and meaning of "harrassment" can be > > kept simple and limited, and fairly neutral. > > I don't think that making a long list of things-not-to-h

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf discussion: Venue bid process

2010-12-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Fri, Dec 03, 2010 at 02:07:44PM +0100, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > Hmmm... We once had delegates to make a venue decision of DC7. You > might remember it, including it's outcome ;) > > If there's interest (and someone reminds me) I can try to summarize some > of the experiences I made b

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf anti-harassment policy

2010-12-03 Thread Herman Robak
On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 13:03:46 +0100, Moray Allan wrote: > On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Holger Levsen wrote: >> http://2010.osdc.com.au/code-conduct is IMO a very good thing, can basically >> just be copied and is even released under a proper licence ;) > > That's linked from the page Richard o

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf discussion: Venue bid process

2010-12-03 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Hi! Am 02.12.2010 23:03, schrieb Moray Allan: > The obvious resolution would be to give an appropriate group an > official DPL delegation for choosing the venue. As delegates they > should still follow the precedent of looking for consensus, but a > delegation would add clarity over who has the

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf anti-harassment policy

2010-12-03 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Hi! Am 03.12.2010 10:18, schrieb Holger Levsen: >> http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Conference_anti-harassment_policy > http://2010.osdc.com.au/code-conduct is IMO a very good thing, can basically > just be copied and is even released under a proper licence ;) I like that text also. Sounds

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf anti-harassment policy

2010-12-03 Thread Moray Allan
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Holger Levsen wrote: > http://2010.osdc.com.au/code-conduct is IMO a very good thing, can basically > just be copied and is even released under a proper licence ;) That's linked from the page Richard originally posted, in the section 'Conferences who have used or a

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf anti-harassment policy

2010-12-03 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Donnerstag, 2. Dezember 2010, Richard Darst wrote: > http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Conference_anti-harassment_policy http://2010.osdc.com.au/code-conduct is IMO a very good thing, can basically just be copied and is even released under a proper licence ;) cheers, Holger,

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf discussion: Venue bid process

2010-12-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 10:03:46PM +, Moray Allan wrote: > > - "A decision is made." sums up my main issue quite well -- it's not > >  specified who takes the decision and how it's taken. > > This is a clear flaw in the current process. In the past when the > answer has not been clear (no con