On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 08:30:27PM +0530, shirish शिरीष wrote:
> I was afraid of the accents and fast-talk of some people while other
> people whose first language was not English were easier to understand
> as they took time to organize and deliver their questions not just in
> Q&A but also afterw
On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 04:11:29PM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote:
> Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>
> > I'm all for encouraging first-time speakers, but Q&A at the end of a
> > session are valuable too; as such, to me, outlawing Q&A is a bit like
> > throwing the kid out with the bathwater.
>
> Just to be cle
On 08/09/18 at 11:11 +0100, Chris Lamb wrote:
> Anyway, whilst I am in no way suggesting DebConf takes an identical
> approach (!!), I would be curious to know whether if we are missing any
> new contributions this way.
I fully agree that Q&A are very important at DebConf.
However, I wonder if we
Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> I'm all for encouraging first-time speakers, but Q&A at the end of a
> session are valuable too; as such, to me, outlawing Q&A is a bit like
> throwing the kid out with the bathwater.
Just to be clear, I would agree with this and am not even strongly
advocating the weaker
On Sat, Sep 08, 2018 at 04:40:38PM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote:
> Hi Samuel,
>
> > > About embarrassing behaviour from the audience: First, this barely ever
> > > happens, [...]
> >
> > I completely agree this all of this, and that's what I explain to our
> > PhD students. But them actually believing
>"Talks should be either 30 minutes long plus 10 minutes for questions
>and answers or 45 minutes long plus 15 minutes for questions and
>answers."
>
>QA been mandatory, is it a problem?
I would say very normal and standard procedure. Has been like this in most
conferences I have attended.
N
Hi,
I was reading 35c3 CfP [1] and I saw this:
"Talks should be either 30 minutes long plus 10 minutes for questions and
answers or 45 minutes long plus 15 minutes for questions and answers."
QA been mandatory, is it a problem?
[1]
https://events.ccc.de/2018/09/11/35c3-call-for-participation-
❦ 12 septembre 2018 13:13 +0100, Ian Jackson :
>> I don't suggest to change anything for Debconf, I am just bad at
>> conferencing.
>
> I think you would probably have interesting things to say. I would
> like it if you felt able to give a talk, so I am keen that we remove
> the barriers that ar
Vincent Bernat writes ("Re: Questions after talks at DebConf (idea)"):
> I don't speak in front of large audiences because of the Q&A part.
That is a shame. Thank you very much for sharing.
> I don't suggest to change anything for Debconf, I am just bad at
>
Samuel Thibault writes ("Re: Questions after talks at DebConf (idea)"):
> Matthew Vernon, le sam. 08 sept. 2018 15:41:14 +0100, a ecrit:
> > Moderators happy/able to cut people off who aren't really
> > asking a question seems a better solution than banning all quest
Chris Lamb writes ("Questions after talks at DebConf (idea)"):
> I noticed yesterday [0] that the PyCascades conference [1] explicitly
> does not permit any questions and answers after a presentation.
This is interesting.
As an audience member I have sometimes found myself int
Le 11/09/2018 à 05:00, shirish शिरीष a écrit :
> Reply in-line :-
>
> On 10/09/2018, Sicelo wrote:
>> I would like to add my humble point of view on this issue ...
>>
>> Background: first time attendee & speaker at DebConf16
>>
> I went through the same situation myself in Debconf16 .
>
> When I h
Reply in-line :-
On 10/09/2018, Sicelo wrote:
> I would like to add my humble point of view on this issue ...
>
> Background: first time attendee & speaker at DebConf16
>
I went through the same situation myself in Debconf16 .
When I had given my proposal for the talk I wasn't prepared it to be
Hi,
- Mensagem original -
> De: "Gunnar Wolf"
>
> Way too many years ago, a bright and gentle woman took care to address
> new speakers at the beginning of DebConf. Although by 2006 I had
> already been public-speaking for ~7 years, I have watched her talk
> maybe a dozen times. Everybod
Norbert Preining writes:
> On Mon, 10 Sep 2018, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
>> > My suggestion is as follows:
>> > * anyone can send questions for that specific talk (anonymously or
>> > not) by accessing an url
>> > * other people can upvote/downvote the question as the talk is going
>> > * the speaker h
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018, Samuel Henrique wrote:
> The times when I saw the "please don't go to the mic if it's not a
> question" was when there were women speaking, and I think I understand
> why they would want that and I'm ok with it*. But yes, It shouldn't be
I'm not. Treating women differently is
Josh Triplett writes:
> On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 09:54:04AM +0900, Norbert Preining wrote:
>> On Mon, 10 Sep 2018, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>>> DebConf. I'd *never* describe DebConf Q&A as "an open mic pedantry
>>> slam", from many years of experience. I'm used to people asking
>> +1
>> 25 years of
> My opinion is that a speaker should be able to ask people to just do
> questions on the mic if they want to.
should be able to ask people to stick to questions only, if they want to*
--
Samuel Henrique
> > The times when I saw the "please don't go to the mic if it's not a
> > question" was when there were women speaking, and I think I understand
> > why they would want that and I'm ok with it*. But yes, It shouldn't be
>
> I'm not. Treating women differently is not something I support. Why
> shou
> > A good moderator can help address that (you can get halfway there by
> > just reminding people "ask questions, don't make statements or comments;
> > make sure your question benefits the whole room".
>
> That is a very strange point! I am more than grateful for comments that
> are NOT questions
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018, Josh Triplett wrote:
> A good moderator can help address that (you can get halfway there by
> just reminding people "ask questions, don't make statements or comments;
> make sure your question benefits the whole room".
That is a very strange point! I am more than grateful for
On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 9:16 AM, Josh Triplett wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 09:54:04AM +0900, Norbert Preining wrote:
>> On Mon, 10 Sep 2018, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>> > DebConf. I'd *never* describe DebConf Q&A as "an open mic pedantry
>> > slam", from many years of experience. I'm used to peop
On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 09:54:04AM +0900, Norbert Preining wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Sep 2018, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> > DebConf. I'd *never* describe DebConf Q&A as "an open mic pedantry
> > slam", from many years of experience. I'm used to people asking
>
> +1
> 25 years of attending conferences I hav
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> DebConf. I'd *never* describe DebConf Q&A as "an open mic pedantry
> slam", from many years of experience. I'm used to people asking
+1
25 years of attending conferences I have never seen an "open mic
pedantry slam".
Aren't we creating a dragon from a
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> > My suggestion is as follows:
> > * anyone can send questions for that specific talk (anonymously or
> > not) by accessing an url
> > * other people can upvote/downvote the question as the talk is going
> > * the speaker has an online dashboard where they
Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana dijo [Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 11:32:57AM -0300]:
> > I too started off as an absolutely terrified public speaker, and the
> > Q&As were especially nerve racking. I should note that DebConf in
> > particular was especially intimidating, not due to anything related to
> >
Gunnar Wolf writes:
> I really disliked the voting part of this tool, though. I don't want
> people to refrain from asking something because they think they will
> be downvoted.
I like the idea of people being able to "up vote" to indicate that a
question already asked is one they'd like to hear
Samuel Henrique dijo [Sat, Sep 08, 2018 at 02:47:15PM -0300]:
> For the speaker side, I saw a really good solution being used at this
> year's DC by Audrey Tang[0], I think it is a non-free service, but it
> should be something really easy to implement it for ourselves.
Yes, looks like an interest
Jonathan Carter dijo [Sat, Sep 08, 2018 at 07:18:16PM +0200]:
> I think ultimately, this should be up to the individual speaker for
> every talk. At some sessions where I was talkmeister, I told the speaker
> that their allotted time includes their question time and some have told
> me that they wo
Hi,
- Mensagem original -
> De: "Karen Sandler"
>
> I too started off as an absolutely terrified public speaker, and the
> Q&As were especially nerve racking. I should note that DebConf in
> particular was especially intimidating, not due to anything related to
> the format of the confer
On 2018-09-10 09:56, Steve McIntyre wrote:
On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 10:49:47AM +0200, Michael Prokop wrote:
...
Or to quote Gary, from
https://twitter.com/garybernhardt/status/989998209123536896:
| who in hell called it conference talk Q&A and not an open mic
pedantry slam
And this is exactl
On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 10:49:47AM +0200, Michael Prokop wrote:
...
>Or to quote Gary, from
>https://twitter.com/garybernhardt/status/989998209123536896:
>
>| who in hell called it conference talk Q&A and not an open mic pedantry slam
And this is exactly what makes me wonder if the other confs r
Hi,
I had my first talk at DebConf18 and I found it very helpful to have
questions during the talk. It even led to a fullow-up BoF session.
While I appreciate the effort to make conferences a comfortable to
newcomers as possible, we should not loose focus on the content of the
talks. After all we
* Chris Lamb [Sat Sep 08, 2018 at 11:11:39AM +0100]:
> I noticed yesterday [0] that the PyCascades conference [1] explicitly
> does not permit any questions and answers after a presentation.
> Finding this intriguing, I followed up to ask for more information and
> was given the following reply:
I would like to add my humble point of view on this issue ...
Background: first time attendee & speaker at DebConf16
I agree with everyone that speaking, and later on, questioning, can
drain a first time conference speaker. Worse still when English is a
language one does not use daily. Then of co
Bdale Garbee, le dim. 09 sept. 2018 14:31:56 -0500, a ecrit:
> Samuel Thibault writes:
> > Sure, but that does not *have* to be done during the session, with
> > the whole audience listening to the discussion, which I guess is the
> > precise stressing point. Such a rule doesn't necessarily preven
Christoph Biedl writes:
> So perhaps one suggestion for DebConf: Make Q&A optional:
>
>> Such an idea could potentially be accomodated in a similar fashion to
>> the "Record talk? [Y]/n" question for a talk proposal; an "Allow Q&A?
>> [Y]/n", also defaulting to "yes".
>
> +1
If we do this in the
Samuel Thibault writes:
> Sure, but that does not *have* to be done during the session, with
> the whole audience listening to the discussion, which I guess is the
> precise stressing point. Such a rule doesn't necessarily prevent from
> discussions on the side, which AIUI don't bring such stress
Hi
> No live Q&A after talks makes it a more friendly environment for
> first time and new speakers. @ericholscher has written about this and
I cannot subscribe to either of this. Much has been said, most
importantly, start small, at a local user meeting if you are scared to
talk in front of
On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Samuel Henrique wrote:
> For the speaker side, I saw a really good solution being used at this
> year's DC by Audrey Tang[0], I think it is a non-free service, but it
> should be something really easy to implement it for ourselves.
This could even be done with gobb
Sorry, I don't mean "sugesstion" as "we should do this", I believe
this is something that still has to be discussed to see what we agree
upon.
I agree with Steve McIntyre about being important to have good
interaction on the talks, and doing the questions on the mic is good
for that, as long as pe
For the speaker side, I saw a really good solution being used at this
year's DC by Audrey Tang[0], I think it is a non-free service, but it
should be something really easy to implement it for ourselves.
My suggestion is as follows:
* anyone can send questions for that specific talk (anonymously or
Hi Chris
On 2018/09/08 12:11, Chris Lamb wrote:
> I noticed yesterday [0] that the PyCascades conference [1] explicitly
> does not permit any questions and answers after a presentation.
>
> Finding this intriguing, I followed up to ask for more information and
> was given the following reply:
>
>
Hi,
I understand reasons behind this.
One of reason why I didn't give any talk anywhere is, that questions after
talk is really stressfull for me. I know my english is not perfect, I can
speak but sometimes I can't understand correctly. 250 people in room, one
of them ask me question and I would
❦ 8 septembre 2018 11:11 +0100, Chris Lamb :
> Anyway, whilst I am in no way suggesting DebConf takes an identical
> approach (!!), I would be curious to know whether if we are missing any
> new contributions this way.
I don't speak in front of large audiences because of the Q&A part. I
have a
[Dropping myself from CC]
Hi Steve,
> I can only assume PyCascades is a very different kind of conference.
In what way? I doubt too much actually. Not that it really matters
here but in my experience Python conferences, especially Django ones,
have actually quite a similar style to DebConfs and
Hi Samuel,
> > About embarrassing behaviour from the audience: First, this barely ever
> > happens, [...]
>
> I completely agree this all of this, and that's what I explain to our
> PhD students. But them actually believing it is another matter.
There is a huge gap between "what I think speaking
Christoph Biedl, le sam. 08 sept. 2018 17:08:28 +0200, a ecrit:
> About embarrassing behaviour from the audience: First, this barely ever
> happens, [...]
I completely agree this all of this, and that's what I explain to our
PhD students. But them actually believing it is another matter.
> I stro
Matthew Vernon, le sam. 08 sept. 2018 15:41:14 +0100, a ecrit:
> Moderators happy/able to cut people off who aren't really
> asking a question seems a better solution than banning all questions.
But the speaker can not be sure that it will happen.
Samuel
Chris Lamb wrote...
> Here is the salient section from the linked page by Eric Holscher:
Quite frankly, I find this very upsetting.
> Let's start with speakers. Many first-time speakers that I know have
> an intense anxiety around having the audience ask questions. They
> think, "I am goin
On 08/09/18 15:37, Steve McIntyre wrote:
On Sat, Sep 08, 2018 at 11:11:39AM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote:
Hi,
I noticed yesterday [0] that the PyCascades conference [1] explicitly
does not permit any questions and answers after a presentation.
Ewww...
I *really* don't like this - for me, the main
On Sat, Sep 08, 2018 at 04:51:33PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Sure, but that does not *have* to be done during the session, with
> the whole audience listening to the discussion, which I guess is the
> precise stressing point.
http://ericholscher.com/blog/2016/nov/12/questions-at-conferences
Hello,
Steve McIntyre, le sam. 08 sept. 2018 15:37:19 +0100, a ecrit:
> On Sat, Sep 08, 2018 at 11:11:39AM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote:
> >I noticed yesterday [0] that the PyCascades conference [1] explicitly
> >does not permit any questions and answers after a presentation.
>
> Ewww...
>
> I *reall
On Sat, Sep 08, 2018 at 11:11:39AM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I noticed yesterday [0] that the PyCascades conference [1] explicitly
>does not permit any questions and answers after a presentation.
Ewww...
I *really* don't like this - for me, the main point of a DebConf talk
is to promote in
Interesting.
The thing that pops to my mind is that Debconf has always been a very
interactive event. More BOF and panel discussion oriented than broadcast-talk
oriented. Which for a "working" event makes a lot of sense.
But I, too, hope we aren't missing useful contributions...
Hrm.
Bd
Hi,
I noticed yesterday [0] that the PyCascades conference [1] explicitly
does not permit any questions and answers after a presentation.
Finding this intriguing, I followed up to ask for more information and
was given the following reply:
No live Q&A after talks makes it a more friendly envir
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