Re: [Debconf-discuss] Talk != BOF

2006-06-09 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Jun 10, 2006 at 01:47:06AM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Friday 09 June 2006 23:42, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > That requirement is, of course, entirely up to the organizers. The > > Debconf organizers have declared that all talks must be accompanied by > > papers. > > Of course, saying

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Talk != BOF

2006-06-09 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Friday 09 June 2006 23:42, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > That requirement is, of course, entirely up to the organizers. The > Debconf organizers have declared that all talks must be accompanied by > papers. > > Of course, saying "give your talk as a BOF instead" is *exactly* the > kind of behavio

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Talk != BOF

2006-06-09 Thread Amaya
Lars Wirzenius wrote: > So instead of a talk, you'd have a BOF where Enrico gives a > presentation and everyone else listens. Exactly, we need to find a better word. Is keynote any better? -- .''`. Sometimes the littlest feet leave the biggest impressions : :' : `. `' Proudly ru

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Talk selection for Debconf 7

2006-06-09 Thread Amaya
Christian Perrier wrote: > (I CC you just to guarantee you that we're talking in your back). I think Christian meant "to guarantee that we're *not* talking in your back". -- .''`. Sometimes the littlest feet leave the biggest impressions : :' : `. `' Proudly running unstable Deb

[Debconf-discuss] Talk != BOF

2006-06-09 Thread Lars Wirzenius
pe, 2006-06-09 kello 10:58 -0500, Gunnar Wolf kirjoitti: > So, of course, Enrico's talks will always be accepted. However, being > a fan of him as I am, I prefer them being BoFs. Why? Because talks > require presenting a paper. That requirement is, of course, entirely up to the organizers. The Deb

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Talk selection for Debconf 7

2006-06-09 Thread Christian Perrier
> Actually the rationale and the process have been much more public this year. > "Problematic talks" also have been discussed on this very list. OK, point taken. I missed it, I guess. As usual, there's always room for improvement and, even though Manoj and I seem to disagree, these exchanges br

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Talk selection for Debconf 7

2006-06-09 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10680 March 1977, Christian Perrier wrote: > Probably another possible improvement direction here. > Hmm, unless you come with real examples and real people publicly > complaining about the selection method, I'll remain > sceptic(english?). These people shoud express their concerns in > publi

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Talk selection for Debconf 7

2006-06-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 9 Jun 2006, Christian Perrier stated: > (Sven, nothing personal...but I've used you as an example in this > discussion and I think it wouldn't be fair to not let you know) > > Manoj Srivastava wrote ("> >" is me talking): > > (votgin mechanism to select talks at Debconf) > >>> Yeah, that could

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Talk selection for Debconf 7

2006-06-09 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Manoj Srivastava dijo [Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 09:22:27AM -0500]: > Secondly, I am not sure that going against the martket > decision is wise, even then: popular debconf speakers do not gain > popularity because they look like movie stars; they are popular > because they have done seminal w

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Talk selection for Debconf 7

2006-06-09 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Friday 09 June 2006 16:51, Christian Perrier wrote: > This is maybe what has been missing this year: more public rationale > about the criteria used by the academic commitee to select talks. But, > of course, this is again about volunteer work and I'd having hard > times making a formal com

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Talk selection for Debconf 7

2006-06-09 Thread Christian Perrier
(Sven, nothing personal...but I've used you as an example in this discussion and I think it wouldn't be fair to not let you know) Manoj Srivastava wrote ("> >" is me talking): (votgin mechanism to select talks at Debconf) > > Yeah, that could be possible. I however fear that this would end up >

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Talk selection for Debconf 7

2006-06-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 9 Jun 2006, Christian Perrier told this: > Quoting Manoj Srivastava ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > >> As I said, timing could be worked on. At least the people >> presenting the talks know they are coming, and a number of people >> not giving talks are more or less committed by that time. However, >> a