[darktable-dev] Change darkroom background color

2016-10-24 Thread Aurélien PIERRE
Hi, I really believe that a photo software should have a neutral grey background in a order to avoid wrong feelings of contrast and exposition during the processing. The dark interface of DT led me many times to underexpose my pictures whereas a neutral grey gives a central reference for cont

Re: [darktable-dev] Re: Another real-life example

2016-10-24 Thread Pascal Obry
Le lundi 24 octobre 2016 à 23:04 +0300, Alex a écrit : > I see this as chroma noise. Same issue as in the images I've linked, > just a lot less obvious. > > I'm talking about https://www.sendspace.com/file/uem3t6 here. Hey please! I have already acknowledged and said that in the original mes

Re: [darktable-dev] Re: Another real-life example

2016-10-24 Thread Alex
I see this as chroma noise. Same issue as in the images I've linked, just a lot less obvious. I'm talking about https://www.sendspace.com/file/uem3t6 here. On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 11:00 PM, Pascal Obry wrote: > Le lundi 24 octobre 2016 à 22:46 +0300, Alex a écrit : > > He complains about magent

Re: [darktable-dev] Re: Another real-life example

2016-10-24 Thread Pascal Obry
Le lundi 24 octobre 2016 à 22:46 +0300, Alex a écrit : > He complains about magenta shadows. Yes, but then: <<< The one you generated shows the surface of car body as covered with a little scratches (zoom to 1:1 and compare). >>> Those are luma noise. And I was responding to this (after respond

Re: [darktable-dev] Re: Another real-life example

2016-10-24 Thread Alex
He complains about magenta shadows. > Black should remain black - if not 100% black, then as > shade of grey, but surely without magenta "sand" on it. The issue is obvious in these images: http://i.imgur.com/0sixStb.jpg http://i.imgur.com/12eQb4y.jpg Of course, they were not rendered with darkta

Re: [darktable-dev] Re: Another real-life example

2016-10-24 Thread Pascal Obry
Le lundi 24 octobre 2016 à 20:29 +0300, Alex a écrit : > > That's luminance noise and certainly not a problem to me. > > To me, it looks like chroma noise, but the defect is not really > obvious in this example. No please reread the exchange. At first there was chroma noise (I've explained how to

Re: [darktable-dev] Re: Another real-life example

2016-10-24 Thread Zbigniew
On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 08:29:38PM +0300, Alex wrote: > Zbigniew, > > Can you prepare a CR2 similar to this one? http://i.imgur.com/0sixStb.jpg Do you mean: to shoot something dark, on high ISO value - to get grainy result - and in similar lighting conditions? -- regards, Zbigniew _

Re: [darktable-dev] Re: Another real-life example

2016-10-24 Thread Alex
Zbigniew, Can you prepare a CR2 similar to this one? http://i.imgur.com/0sixStb.jpg It can be the original CR2 from the same example, if you can find it or get it from OP. Or a similar scene that shows the same defect. I've got a theory about a possible fix, so I'd like to look into it. Basical

[darktable-dev] Trouble signing up to user's mailing list

2016-10-24 Thread Shane Simmons
Not sure where else to put this, but I sent a request to the user's mailing list address, and I still don't see any messages in my inbox. I have a question about the lighttable and darkroom button size I wanted to post -- they are too big now, after I upgraded to Kubuntu 16.10. -- "That is n

Re: [darktable-dev] can't find libintl while building and no Internationalization as a result

2016-10-24 Thread shlomi braitbart
git describe release-0.9.3-13734-ge493501 git status On branch master Your branch is ahead of 'origin/master' by 3 commits. (use "git push" to publish your local commits) Untracked files: (use "git add ..." to include in what will be committed) po/he.mo nothing added to commit but untracked

Re: [darktable-dev] Re: Another real-life example

2016-10-24 Thread Pascal Obry
Zbigniew, > Anyway, I'm aware it's rather a matter of personal taste, but I'm > convinced > that after you examine both pictures again - and even more closely - > you'll > agree that this Silkypix-made is a little bit better. The one you > generated > shows the surface of car body as covered with

Re: [darktable-dev] Re: Another real-life example

2016-10-24 Thread Zbigniew
JLC> What I see: JLC> 1 - The exposure level is not the same on both the pictures - there is JLC> about 1 EV difference JLC> 2 - The silkypix.jpg is noise processed while the darktable.jpg is not. Most probably silkypix is denoising - I'm not opposed to that - what I was trying to explain is that

Re: [darktable-dev] can't find libintl while building and no Internationalization as a result

2016-10-24 Thread Tobias Ellinghaus
Am Montag, 24. Oktober 2016, 15:58:32 CEST schrieb shlomi braitbart: > When I do > $ git pull > I am getting: > $ Already up-to-date. That sounds odd as I pushed changes before I wrote my last mail. What is the output of cd /home/shlomi/darktable2/darktable/ git describe git status > (I am on t

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2016-10-24 Thread Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh)
What I see: 1 - The exposure level is not the same on both the pictures - there is about 1 EV difference 2 - The silkypix.jpg is noise processed while the darktable.jpg is not. Regards Jean-Luc 2016-10-24 16:14 GMT+02:00 Zbigniew : > J-L.C.> Is there something wrong as I don't SEE anything wr

Re: [darktable-dev] can't find libintl while building and no Internationalization as a result

2016-10-24 Thread Tim Rolph
Hi Shlomi, I have noticed the same build problem as you from git master. if I delete the build directory it fails, but if I rerun it build ok. I am using Debian Jessie (stable). The only error I get is "Missing jsonschema, problems in noiseprofiles.json might go unnoticed" But it says 3 lines l

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2016-10-24 Thread Zbigniew
J-L.C.> Is there something wrong as I don't SEE anything wrong P.O.> Same here. I don't see anything wrong. Encouraged by your answers just installed current version of Darktable - and what I can say, is... guys, I honestly can't believe you didn't see this: https://www.sendspace.com/file/uem3t

Re: [darktable-dev] Re: Another real-life example

2016-10-24 Thread Zbigniew
J-L.C.> Is there something wrong as I don't SEE anything wrong P.O.> Same here. I don't see anything wrong. Encouraged by your answers just installed current version of Darktable - and what I can say, is... guys, I honestly can't believe you didn't see this: https://www.sendspace.com/file/uem3t

[darktable-dev] Re: Another real-life example

2016-10-24 Thread Zbigniew
OK, thanks - so it may be partial answer to my original question; since you don't see it using Darktable in "development" process, then probably its decoding procedures - at least the ones used to decode Canon's RAW files - are better than the ones in LR 5.7.1. You may want to examine my examples

Re: [darktable-dev] can't find libintl while building and no Internationalization as a result

2016-10-24 Thread Tobias Ellinghaus
Am Montag, 24. Oktober 2016, 01:49:32 CEST schrieb shlomi braitbart: > Okay, I managed to build DT. > It is strange but if I delete the build folder and run the build.sh script > I get an error as in the attached "cmake_output22.txt" file. > Running the build.sh again without deleting the build di

[darktable-dev] Grouping Symbol Color

2016-10-24 Thread David Vincent-Jones
I notice that the 'G' grouping symbol is often difficult to see particularly when the image has been cropped and much of the frame is used. Would it be practical to have this symbol in red or other dominant color? David __

Re: [darktable-dev] Re: Another real-life example

2016-10-24 Thread Pascal Obry
2016-10-24 10:44 GMT+02:00 Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) : > I've downloaded your picture. > I've used the colour picker on the black car at the upper left. > I used the "zone" picker and drawn a square on the black car. > > Without pushing the exposure but with the base curve applied, I get: > 80, 80, 7

[darktable-dev] Re: Another real-life example

2016-10-24 Thread Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh)
I've downloaded your picture. I've used the colour picker on the black car at the upper left. I used the "zone" picker and drawn a square on the black car. Without pushing the exposure but with the base curve applied, I get: 80, 80, 78 With +1EV, I get: 118, 118, 115 Is there something wrong as I