Adam Lydick writes:
> I'd guess that no applications (besides the secure nexus) would
> have access to your "list of doggie names", just the ability to display
> it. The list just indicates that you are seeing a window from one of
> your partitioned and verified applications. I would also assume t
Joe Ashwood writes:
> From: "Anonymous"
> > You clearly know virtually nothing about Palladium.
> I still stand by, "Arbitrarily trusting anyone to write a secure program
> simply doesn't work" regardless of how many times MS says "trust us" any
> substantially educated person should as well
Tim Dierks wrote:
> - Get browser makers to design better ways to communicate to users that
> UI elements can be trusted. For example, a proposal I saw recently which
> would have the OS decorate the borders of "trusted" windows with facts or
> images that an attacker wouldn't be able to predic
Is there some way to read usenet anon, not with google, but with a linux
news reader like tin? I'm sure I can use google with JAP fairly securely,
but google's pretty slow.
Tyler Durden leaves the fight club and writes:
> Do you have a reference? I don't remember reading that SACD was encrypted.
> What I DO remember is that the reason there's no standard SACD or DVD-A
> digital interface is because the Industry wants that digital interface to be
> encrypted.
The d
DRUGS !! GUNS !! PORNOGRAFY !! YANKEE GO HOME !! HANDS OFF Saddam Hussein !
if you want drugs, guns, alcohol, pornografy lolitas, bukkake schoolgirl,
you can find this here - http://www.freenetproject.org !!
WARNING!!! only on the Freenet you may find this "illegal" things!!!
http://www.fre
One point being overlooked here is digital versus physical anonymity.
The "funky" ATM (what, does it smell or something?) will allow you to
(among other things) stick in some cash and let someone else withdraw it
using a password which you have sent him out of band (according to the
patent - which
Declan hypothesized:
>This is amazing. If anything like this was even attempted in DC,
>we'd have dozens of federal agencies, and perhaps armed troops,
>converging on the U.S. Capitol.
>
>-Declan
Something was attempted like that in DC -- The Bonus Marchers in 1932.
And although there weren't
"The Trial of Henry Kissinger" by Christopher Hitchens
ISBN 1-85984-631-9
It is commonly stated on this list that the term "terrorism" is
selectively used. The enemies of the United States Government are
"terrorists" and its friends "freedom fighters." Nobody who reads
this book can doubt this
Black Unicorn wrote:
> A legal education is the ultimate dose of practical cynicism. It
> quickly becomes apparent not that the law isn't perfect, but that it
> is often pretty damn screwed up. American jurisprudence is about
> _fairness of process_, not justice, or right, or wrong.
Come now, s
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Official Reporters have more copyright rights
Declan McCullagh wrote:
> Why did I ever deprocmail Choate?...
> I expect this will be my only response to Choate in the foreseeable
> future. Sigh.
I certainly hope so. Messages like this move you closer to my
pro
All the more reason to morph freenet/mojo to mix duties, maybe even
create a worm version
that gives no evidence of it's existence, other than some increase in traffic.
What happened to melontrafficers.com BTW?
Declan McCullagh wrote:
On Sun, Aug 05, 2001 at 04:07:14PM +0300, Sampo
All the more reason to morph freenet/mojo to mix duties, maybe even
create a worm version
that gives no evidence of it's existence, other than some increase in traffic.
What happened to melontrafficers.com BTW?
hmm, for that matter, there seems to a number of remailers down -- what's
My studies show about 1 chance in 20 that any particular running
remailer will drop a message. This is based on sending a bunch of
messages through chains of remailers of varying length and seeing how
many arrive in a day or so, and then calculating the average
probability. These are not the lam
Tim May writes:
> Draw this graph I outlined. Think about where the markets are for tools
> for privacy and untraceability. Realize that many of the "far out' sweet
> spot applications are not necessarily immoral: think of freedom fighters
> in communist-controlled regimes, think of distributio
On Monday, August 27, 2001, at 12:56 PM, Tim May wrote:
> On Monday, August 27, 2001, at 12:40 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> > "Freedom fighters in communist-controlled regimes." How much money
> > do they have? More importantly, how much are they willing and able to
>
>Members of the IRA are not freedom fighters in a communist-controlled
>country. bin Laden did fall under that definition when he was fighting
The naivety of poster is appaling. I hope that "freedom fighters" in a
"communist-controlled country" is used as a placeholder for "something good as
p
On Tuesday, August 28, 2001, at 8:04 AM, Tim May wrote:
> On Monday, August 27, 2001, at 11:20 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> > On Monday, August 27, 2001, at 12:56 PM, Tim May wrote:
> >> On Monday, August 27, 2001, at 12:40 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> >>> "Freed
Nomen says:
> bin Laden and the IRA have plenty of money, but will many cypherpunks
agree with their politics? It's hard to believe that anyone thinks that
if the IRA or bin Laden were to succeed in their goals, that they would
put in place a kindler and gentler state.
It remains a challenge to
Ray Dillinger writes:
> I've composed a dozen responses, considered the subpeona and the trial
> that could result from posting each, and wiped them. There's your
> "chilling effect on political discussion" if you're interested. This
> one, I'm going to post, so I'm being very careful what I
Gil Hamilton (great nym!) wrote:
> Didn't you already sign on? Surely through your careful study of the
> archives you know that one of the founding documents for this list is
> Tim's "Crypto Anarchist Manifesto". It's practically the charter.
> See, for example,
> http://www.eff.org/Privacy/Cry
"Jon Beets" (great nym!) writes:
> what really gets me is the
> part quoted below.. They are saying since "Scientology", "Dianetics",
> "Hubbard" and "NOTs" are registered trademarks they cannot be used in
> metatags in a webpage... The restriction in use of words in a web page
> is just flat out
Tim May writes:
> And in both of these examples I gave, "Nomen Nescio" took a literal
> reading of the examples. "But Ireland is not a communist regime!" "But
> they are not Jews!"
>
> Examples, like the half dozen I gave, are designed to convey t
Mark Leighton Fisher writes:
> Tim's point, which many seem to have missed, is that by design a tool that
> enforces the privacy, anonymity, and pseudonymity of a women striving for
> equal rights in Afghanistan can also be used by the Taliban in their quest
> to track down and kill Afghans who c
Tim May wrote:
> I don't recall the context, but I don't have any such friends or
> even acquaintances. Even those I know on the Far Right don't want to
> kill _all_ Jews, just the pesky freedom-stealing ones, and the
> millions who form the Zionist Occupation Government in the Zionist
> Entity of
On 31 Aug 2001, at 12:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On 31 Aug 2001, at 19:50, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> > This means that the operators
> > choose to whom they will market and sell their services.
>
> Here I disagree completely. I think in a properly designed
> anonymity
Tim May wrote:
> On Saturday, September 1, 2001, at 01:30 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> > Yes and no. The users aren't all that anonymous, or they wouldn't need
> > anonymous technologies, would they? The remailer network sees where
> > this message originates. If
On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, John Young wrote:
> Nobody has yet seen an fbi.gov in the logs, or nsa.mil/gov,
> though a few ucia.gov and nro.gov crop up, and the ubiquitous
> nscs.mil.
fbi.gov = .usdoj.gov, as far as web logs go.
J.A. Terranson writes:
> This is the case I had in mind when I made my recent assertion that
> thought==action in today's "court". How can anyone see this case, and not
> conclude otherwise? This dude is going to spend a long time in stir, for
> a *pure Thought Crime*.
Gee, maybe he shouldn't h
On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Eric Murray wrote:
> Another way to kill remailers would be through anti-spam legislation
> that forbids "forging" email headers. We're already seeing some of
> this.
Declan brought this up in a "sky-is-falling" article about remailers and
anti-spam legislation. I do not be
On Sun, 2 Sep 2001, David Honig wrote:
> At 12:34 PM 9/2/01 -0700, Tim May wrote:
> >Someone else:
> >> The fact that you may be
> >> identifiable at the point of entry to an anonymity system is
> >> a weakness, not a desired feature, and if it can be avoided, it
> >> should be.
> >>
> >
> >Then d
FBI members of this list might want to have a look here.
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&frame=right&th=54ab4d241c34e0cc&seekm=3b8fd177%40monitor.lanset.com#link1
(Basically, a poster calling himself Xinoehpoel on the
alt.prophecies.nostradamus news group started making noise about a big
e
Suffused with boredom, Lucky Green wrote,
> Nomen wrote:
> ---
> What are the roles of we who provide technology that aids terrorists
> as well as honorable people who seek the shield of privacy? Do we bear
> a share of the responsibility for the deaths and other consequences of
> te
Are one or both of these still necessary?
- CUT HERE
Mixmaster 2.9b23 still searches for opensslv.h in a nonexistent
/usr/include/ssl/openssl directory on OpenBSD 2.6 and 2.7. The patch to
the Install routine below hopefully fixes the hardcoded directory in a
manner that does n
Greg Broiles writes:
> I propose that this sort of discussion - about whether or not, in the face
> of violence and tragedy, some aspect of human freedom and expression can be
> suitably "justified" to satisfy every self-appointed devil's advocate - is
> absolutely unproductive and serves only
Declan McCullagh writes:
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 06:00:46PM +0200, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> > Some terrorists have exactly this as their goal. They are hoping
> > to trigger a counter-reaction, an over-reaction, by the authorities.
> > They want to see a crackdown on libe
Eric Hughes wrote:
> 2001 September 12
> An Open Letter on Privacy and Anonymity
It's a well written letter, unquestionably. But there's a problem.
While the title of the letter refers to privacy and anonymity, these terms
are hardly used in the body. Privacy is referred to only in the first
p
James Donald writes:
> Obviously this catastrophe could not have taken place without the
> unauthorized use of paper. Paper allows people to communicate
> dangerous ideas and secret messages.
>
> With paper, anyone can communicate to large numbers of people at
> once, even if they are not proper
> What about Mr. K-S that hides behind his hushmail jacket and asks for names
> and addresses.why doesn't somebody cuss him out?
>
> ~Aimee
Hmmm! Could it be that most people who aren't sheeple agree with him?
In these days after the World Trade Center attacks, calls are being heard
for restrictions on access to the technologies of privacy. As more
and more communications go by e-mail, chat rooms and cell phones,
our intelligence and law enforcement agencies are beginning to rely
on surveillance of the
Chefren - On behalf of the civilized readers of the cypherpunks list,
please accept our apology for the implied threats of violence against you
by Tim May. He is by no means representative of the larger readership.
He is alone in calling for the death of those who hold views different
from his ow
Tim May writes:
> Funny, I notice how many of the critics of Cypherpunks and supporters of
> this express train approach to repealing the Bill of Rights are
> themselves hiding behind Cypherpunks remailers, Hushmail aliases, and
> Ziplip nyms.
If you're upset that "critics of the Cypherpunks"
Only one member of Congress had the courage to stand up against the
crowd in the rush to authorize retaliation under the War Powers Act.
It has been characterized as "essentially a declaration of war":
Authorization for Use of United States Armed Forces
(a) That the president is authorized to
The movement to rebuild the World Trade Center towers is gaining momentum,
and American capitalism is stepping up to the plate. The latest corporate
giant to sign on as a sponsor is Target Stores. Their only requirement
is that their corporate logo be painted high on each tower. The Target
logo
Tim May writes:
> Q: "Do you believe people should be arrrested, tried, and jailed for
> writing in some form that narcs and cops cannot read? Do you believe
> whispering should be made a felony?
>
> Q: If you answered "yes," would you be willing to take a bullet from
> citizens who don't agree
> Most nuclear power plants were built during the 1960s and 1970s, and
> like the World Trade Center, they were designed to withstand only
> accidental impacts from the smaller aircraft widely used at the time,
> the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) said as it opened its
> annual conf
> According to collected data, the average speed in 30 mph zones ranged
> from 35.5 to 46 mph. In the 35 mph zones, the average speed was about 43
> mph. The highest speed, clocked by Colonial Estates East Citizens on
> Patrol group, was 62 mph in a 30 mph zone.
Too bad this wasn't California.
> > Bin laden demolitions has authorised me to offer you a once in a lifetime deal.
> > 1million dollars untracable digital cash will be paid to an account/s of
> > your choice
> > for enough intelligence to proceed with further superpower implosions.
> > Insider info preffered but not essential,l
Zero-Knowledge Systems is reported to be shutting down their Freedom
network and product. A letter has apparently been sent to subscribers
with the bad news. Could someone please post a copy here? Does it say
anything about the reasons? Just lack of money, or something related
to 9/11?
The we
Jim Choate wrote:
> Yes. There is a school district north of Texas which has succesfully
> thrown a kid out for wearing a shirt with 'Fuck' on it.
That was not my question. Obviously most if not all public schools impose
"dress codes" upon their wards.
Hair seems something of a different matte
John Bronson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>The
>FBI is under so much scrutiny that it would be career suicide for an agent
>to misuse it.
You need to be introduced to the concept of a "disposable agent".
>Add to that the fact that the configuration of the thing is
>recorded as evidence and public
On Mon, 2 Oct 2000, Steve Furlong wrote:
> Does anyone have any suggestions for setting up an anonymous remailer?
You can get the source for the current version of Mixmaster (2.9b23) via
anonymous FTP from mixmaster.anonymizer.com.
Send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for info on the
remop mailing l
On Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:38:30 -0400, "Trei, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can't get the web page myself, but the appended message
> is in sci.crypt today:
>
> Peter Trei
>
> From: Jim Gillogly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 1:03 PM
>
> Subject: Re: Deadline for AES...
>
The upcoming deadline for CA's "Assault Weapon Registration" has weighed
heavily upon my thoughts for some time. The blank registration form sits
on my desk, staring back at me every time my eyes wander away from the
screen.
Registrant Last Name, Registrant First Name, Registrant Middle Name, DO
Market could be huge, but consumers are a tough sell
BY DEBORAH LOHSE
Mercury News
Dozens of new companies are betting that someday soon, Internet surfers will behave
like James Bond in cyberspace.
They dream of consumers, rabidly protective of their online privacy, who use
technology to obs
By REUTERS
Filed at 0:56 a.m. ET
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A year after the Y2K bug, U.S. officials are once again warning
about perceived dangers to a United States increasingly stitched together by bits and
bytes of computer code.
This time, a key stated fear is information warfare, or sneak
Cameras in the voting booth? Jesus Christ, you guys are morons. If you
want to sell your vote, just vote absentee. The ward guy will even stamp
and mail it for you. Happens every election.
I find it strange that some people here so often wants to intimidate those that dares
to ask some questions. Eric put it very well in his post about dicksizewar. Very true
indeed.
I find it very *l*a*m*e* to all the time tell people to RTFM when something comes up
that happened to be have been
Another excellent group of potential recruits are prisoners.
Especially if you can create a new religious movement teaching
them to stop the interracial, intergang fighting and concentrate
on their true enemy, the Man. Teach that killing cops, soldiers,
any type of government agent, is a holy a
Nomen Nescio spake:
> Another excellent group of potential recruits are prisoners.
> Especially if you can create a new religious movement teaching
> them to stop the interracial, intergang fighting and concentrate
> on their true enemy, the Man. Teach that killing cops, soldiers
Death to the Oinks!
Off All the Pigs!
Off the Pigs!
Would it be possible to have a self adjusting dummy traffic generator feature
in remailers? Operator decides that he wants to process x number of incoming and y
number of outgoing messages each time period t. Then the software adjusts the number
of dummy messages to this value using some
Even though I agree this issue is important I wouldn't be surprised if NONE were run
by TLAs today and NONE has ever been run by TLAs. We will never get any such answer
and therefore these speculations will continue. Personally I think it sounds really
stupid when I read comments like "you can o
Tim, sorry it was unclear from my post whom I was referring to. It was "James A.
Donald". I did put his message id in a reply-to header.
Jim Dixon wrote:
> Hitler, you mean? Or did you have Milosevic in mind?
No what I meant was what IF somehow Bush or Blaire or some other high ranking
coaliti
Ken, Eh what?
Yes I've heard a lot of the Soviet union, however I don't see what you meant by that
comment here.
What I was referring to was the winning powers' treatment of the Nazi war criminals
after WWII, Nurnburg trials and so on. (Note the word "trials" here)
I don't think I've ever hear
US is currently run by thugs supported by the cheering consumer crowds that have been
bred and conditioned to be infantile.
So the situation is best evaluated in the "Lord of Flies" context. As long as masters
are winning and have stronger army than anyone else, nothing will change. You will
no
Thanks Steve, I don't think I have heard this before. I googled on the text you quoted
and found this url
http://wais.stanford.edu/Iraq/iraq_andambassaprilglaspie22303.html
and a few more
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ARTICLE5/april.html
http://www.chss.montclair.edu/english/furr/glaspie.ht
Just thought someone should take the trouble to rebut the anonymous
pro-treacherous-computing rantings...
I have heavily trimmed our anonymous ranters verbose writing style to
keep just the bits I'm responding to (inline...)
> The EFF tries to distinguish between "good" and "bad" aspects of TC,
>
Eric lisped:
> Tel Aviv needs a thermonuclear enema.
Hey fag boy, we know why you love them ragheads -- a-rabs being known for a
preference for buttfucking each other and especially them sweet young boys.
De time be almost here, good peoples. Time to get yours.
You know what I and I be talkin about -- no more fuckin
around about it. All dem pigs and feds jes be sooo busy
wid dem bin Ladens, dey got no time for us simple folks.
Time be for I and I to git what we bin waitin for. Git
dem muthafuck
National Public Radio (NPR) Morning Edition (11:00 AM AM ET)
Thursday, Oct. 18, 2001
Beefing up security at America's dams and reservoirs
BOB EDWARDS, host: This is
MORNING EDITION from NPR News. I'm Bob
Edwards.
Security is tight at many of the
nation's 70,000 reservoirs and dams.
There's
Posters to the cypherpunks list can be divided into idiots and others.
Idiots seldom contribute anything useful and love to fasten onto threads
which require no more than their uninformed opinions. Interestingly,
many of the idiots work at low-paying jobs like system administration,
and several o
Of course I know how to use a killfile! I killfiled all you idiots
long ago, but your names and trivial ideas keep getting quoted by
all the important people, AND I JUST CAN'T STAND IT ANYMORE!.
Have you no shame, how can you dare to even show your face on
a list like this, you stupid, underpa
Listen, its not a return to fascism.
Not by any stretch, so unbunch your
panties.
unbunch(panties);
Some Americans are tired of being
stepped on.
Me in particular.
Its way different than the inferrence
you infer.
I am sure that we agree on the same
stuff, we just dont agree on how to
get ther
There are so many misconceptions floating around here it's hard to know
where to begin. But let's start with two points of agreement.
First, airport screening is far from perfect. There is no way to detect
all possible threats coming on the airplane. And given the technology
and time available
http://law2.house.gov/uscode-cgi/fastweb.exe?getdoc+uscview+t17t20+1050+18++%28sedition%29
U.S. Code Title 18, Chapter 115:
Sec. 2384. Seditious conspiracy
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place
subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire
Tim May:
> These 50 kids will find their innermost thoughts and crimes "in their
> permanent records." When they apply for jobs in 15 years, when they seek
> political office, when they try to get security clearances.
>
> eBlack, the new anonymous bidding service, has an offer for e2400 for a
>
Tim May writes:
> Several of us were in the Sierras this past weekend for a training
> session on weapons use, explosives, terrorism measures, and methods for
> monkeywrenching the U.S. government so as to paralyze its police state
> moves.
First, this is probably not true. Tim May often uses
> [Another glimmer of hope as even some of the mainstream business press is
> venturing beyond simple patriotic flag waving. Posted in its entirety
> as its not online.]
>
> Terrorism and the challenge to globalization.
> BY PETER SCHWARTZ
Stupid article, and your comment doesn't make much sense
Marc de Piolenc wrote:
> Nomen Nescio wrote:
> > And yet we expect airport screeners to ignore past acts of terrorism
> > by a wild-eyed fanatic boarding a plan,
>
> I don't recall anybody being required to do that. Quite a stretch,
> unless you can cite an exa
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
> Of course you could connect an automated firearm. (Crime Stoppers Note:
> aways aim for the head to avoid protective vests) Any lawyers on the list
> know what penalties might be brought. I seem to recall that tying a
> shotgun to the door knob was ruled an "indescri
Declan McCullagh wrote:
> I'm told this bill is expected to become law by Christmas.
>
> >The Secretary of State shall issue, and may from time to time revise, a
> >code of practice relating to the retention by communications providers of
> >communications data obtained by or held by them...
Sp
David Molnar writes:
> The recent comments on Mojo Nation prompted me to look at their site
> again. I don't see much guidance on how to set prices for network
> services. There's a mention someplace that business customers will build
> pricing schemes on top of Mojo Nation, but not much indicatio
Well, if google controls usenet history, why wouldn't a violence monopoly control logs
and the history of the lands it ... controls ? (for all practical purposes the
government is a corporation with a very effective PR department and pesuasive means,
which it uses to successfuly convince custom
Marc de Piolenc writes:
> Presumably, the reports to be destroyed include everything to do with
> crypto.
> ...
> Not only is the government removing much material from its websites it
> is also asking depository libraries (which are sent government reports
> free) to remove and destroy many gove
John Young writes:
> Criticism of anonymizers and remailers and this list is a healthy
> as criticizing any reputable, and disreputable, private or publice
> means of communication.
>
> Fending off criticism by saying past performance and reputation
> deserves trust is a hoot and is also a hackney
To summarize:
You can sell nyms by transferring private keys. Whether other people
like it or not, it can be done. And others can't necessarily tell.
There is nothing to stop someone from transferring his private key
in this way. Any reputation goes along with the nym, and this may be
quite va
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Major Variola ret) writes:
http://latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-97083dec06.story?coll=la%2Dheadlines%2Dnation
> U.S. Seeks Force-Feeding Order for Fasting Detainee in Phoenix Courts:
> The unusual step involves a Middle Eastern pilot protesting his
> jailing in a
John Young writes, regarding Assassination Politics:
> AP is a touchy topic for Cypherpunks, whoever they may
> be. It is likely the USA is attempting to link AP to Cypherpunks
> for prosecution, so not many will want to talk about the
> topic.
Cypherpunks pioneered the use of encryption and ano
Danny Popkin writes:
> > Rather, the problem with AP is that it is mob rule at its worst.
>
> Worse than the secret ballot?
Much worse. With a secret ballot you need to get a majority to support
any particular position. That's a significant hurdle to overcome.
But with AP any small group of peo
Declan McCullagh writes:
> I always enjoy Jonathan's essays, and this one is no exception. He
> properly points out the disturbing analogy that Attorney General
> Ashcroft seems to make (http://www.politechbot.com/p-02900.html)
> between criticism and treason.
What Ashcroft actually said, from th
Declan McCullagh has been producing a one-sided series about a child
pornographer's supposedly unjust indictment,
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,49132,00.html. Of course
everything the pornographer says is taken as gospel, while the police
are filthy liars. In fact they have gone so f
Paul Holman writes, to about 10 email lists:
> All, please forgive the cross-posting, I haven't been following any of
> these lists recently, but have a vested interest in this conversation
> and would like to be CC'd on this thread in the future.
>
> First, can somebody please send me a refere
On Sat, 15 Dec 2001, Anonymous wrote:
> Lucky Green writes:
> > A popular remailer will handle some 3,500 messages a day. But this
> > includes intra remailer-network traffic. How many of those messages are
> > messages entering and leaving the cloud is any remailer operator's
> > guess, since cu
jya>>I don't recall the rationale used by the USPO to forbid CJ from
posting to cypherpunks. Anybody know the answer to that?
Since when is it unusual to forbid parolees from associating with
unsavory and immoral characters?
Peter Trei writes:
> Modulo the recent discussion of how some remailers
> treat traffic from other known remailers differently than
> mail from unknown addresses, remailers don't need to
> know about each other.
>
> If they don't know know about each other, and there is
> nothing on the machines
The January, 2002 issue of Wired has an article on e-gold, the online
payment system founded by retired oncologist Douglas Jackson.
Much of the article discusses e-gold's misguided effort to link
up with Islamic fundamentalists who want to overthrow capitalism.
They are setting up a spinoff, e-di
www.mail-archive.com has no messages from [EMAIL PROTECTED] since
December 7. Ryan Lackey posted a message to cypherpunks and coderpunks
on Friday December 22 but it has not appeared on coderpunks. Is that
list down? Who is the administrator?
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