Re: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread Reese
At 01:28 PM 11/3/01 -0800, Tim May wrote: >On Saturday, November 3, 2001, at 11:06 AM, Declan McCullagh wrote: >> http://www.wartimeliberty.com/article.pl?sid=01/11/03/1813233 >What else is expected in a police state? > >The soldiers say who can travel, and where. > >Fuck this nation. Fuck it to

Re: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread Reese
At 12:04 AM 11/4/01 -0600, Jim Choate wrote: >Besides, if this guardsman was as naive as you say how did he know who >she was? As I understood it her name was on a list. ..."on a list." of people who purchased their tickets online. w00h00. >Think about that, on a list... *yawn* >You're an a

Re: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread Reese
At 09:47 PM 11/3/01 -0800, Raymond D. Mereniuk wrote: >On 3 Nov 2001, at 13:28, Tim May wrote: > >> What else is expected in a police state? >> The soldiers say who can travel, and where. >> Fuck this nation. Fuck it to death and start over. > >Tim, you are getting much too cynical! That isn't

Re: CDR: Re: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread measl
On Sat, 3 Nov 2001, Reese wrote: > > At 09:47 PM 11/3/01 -0800, Raymond D. Mereniuk wrote: > >On 3 Nov 2001, at 13:28, Tim May wrote: > > > >> What else is expected in a police state? > >> The soldiers say who can travel, and where. > >> Fuck this nation. Fuck it to death and start over. > > >

Re: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread Raymond D. Mereniuk
On 3 Nov 2001, at 22:20, Reese wrote: > The dumb cunt brought it on herself. Even you wouldn't spit in the > eye of a cop at your door and expect no action to be taken. Yes, you are right, she was searching for attention but she received more than she bargined for. The point is how did the fr

RE: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread Reese
At 12:32 AM 11/4/01 -0800, S a n d y wrote: >Reese wrote: > >> You didn't really read the interview, >> did you? >> >> The dumb cunt brought it on herself. > >Yeah, just like all those other rape victims... Read the article/interview. Every airline passenger is going through heightened sec

Re: CDR: Re: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread Reese
At 02:33 AM 11/4/01 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Since when are we required to be "cooperative" with illegal searches? Why do you think it was an illegal search? >And what's with the "dumb cunt" bit? I calls 'em like I sees 'em, and boy, what she did was dumb. Reese

Re: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread Reese
At 12:51 AM 11/4/01 -0800, Raymond D. Mereniuk wrote: >On 3 Nov 2001, at 22:20, Reese wrote: > >> The dumb cunt brought it on herself. Even you wouldn't spit in the >> eye of a cop at your door and expect no action to be taken. > >Yes, you are right, she was searching for attention but she receiv

RE: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread Raymond D. Mereniuk
On 3 Nov 2001, at 23:07, Reese wrote: > equestrian would not have pissed the nasty guards off, I guess greens > think they can act haughty and snub everyone with impunity - wrong answer > (aka idealism = 0, reality = 1). I don't really like the "greens" type of person as they tend to blame eve

Re: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread Raymond D. Mereniuk
On 3 Nov 2001, at 23:12, Reese wrote: > Oh boo hoo hoo. I shed crocodile tears. Truly. > > People flagged by the ticket agent, people who purchase tickets online. > That's what got her flagged. Dig deeper, you are missing it. > Obviously. Carry on, you don't need me for this. What am I m

RE: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread Reese
At 01:41 AM 11/4/01 -0800, Raymond D. Mereniuk wrote: >On 3 Nov 2001, at 23:07, Reese wrote: > >> equestrian would not have pissed the nasty guards off, I guess greens >> think they can act haughty and snub everyone with impunity - wrong answer >> (aka idealism = 0, reality = 1). > >I don't reall

Re: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread Reese
At 01:58 AM 11/4/01 -0800, Raymond D. Mereniuk wrote: >On 3 Nov 2001, at 23:12, Reese wrote: > >> Oh boo hoo hoo. I shed crocodile tears. Truly. >> >> People flagged by the ticket agent, people who purchase tickets online. >> That's what got her flagged. Dig deeper, you are missing it. > >>

RE: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread Raymond D. Mereniuk
On 4 Nov 2001, at 0:05, Reese wrote: > The real story is that it was flagged, but not because of > politics, but because she bought her ticket online. People > who use Expedia, CheapTickets, LowestFare, Orbitz, and other > rock-bottom and somewhat ANONYMOUS ticket services are having > their tick

Re: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread Raymond D. Mereniuk
On 4 Nov 2001, at 0:11, Reese wrote: > Maybe simple but a legal way of looking at it which must form the basis of dealing with such situations > You still do not allow for attitude. "We reserve the right to refuse > service to anyone." Attitude is a very scary principal to which base passag

RE: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread Reese
At 02:23 AM 11/4/01 -0800, Raymond D. Mereniuk wrote: >> The real story is that it was flagged, but not because of >> politics, but because she bought her ticket online. People >> who use Expedia, CheapTickets, LowestFare, Orbitz, and other >> rock-bottom and somewhat ANONYMOUS ticket services ar

Re: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread Reese
At 02:38 AM 11/4/01 -0800, Raymond D. Mereniuk wrote: >On 4 Nov 2001, at 0:11, Reese wrote: > >> > >Maybe simple but a legal way of looking at it which must form the >basis of dealing with such situations Note that "legal" and "legitimate" are not fully synonymous. >> You still do not allow fo

Re: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread Raymond D. Mereniuk
On 4 Nov 2001, at 0:49, Reese wrote: > What is precedent and case history of the "We reserve the right..." > signs in public establishments, restaurants for example? How about > the "no shirts, no shoes, no service" signs, whether food is sold > at the establishment or not? You can deny servic

RE: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread Blanc
>From Raymond D. Mereniuk: :I kinda like a place where there is a rule of law and everything is :totally predictable, something America appears to be moving away :from at this moment. -- But the situation *is* entirely predictable: Some people in scary positions of responsi

RE: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread Sandy Sandfort
Reese wrote: > At 12:32 AM 11/4/01 -0800, S a n d y wrote: > >Reese wrote: > > > >> You didn't really read the interview, > >> did you? > >> > >> The dumb cunt brought it on herself. > > > >Yeah, just like all those other rape victims... > > Read the article/interview. Did. I don't care if

Re: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread jamesd
-- On 4 Nov 2001, at 1:58, Raymond D. Mereniuk wrote: > What am I missing here? Was the prospective passenger > carrying weapons or anything which could be judged as a > weapon.? Was the prospective passenger deemed a threat to > any of the other passengers or the completion of the flight >

RE: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread Sandy Sandfort
James A. Donald wrote: > Let us imagine the following scenario. > You are going to board a plane. > Someone who is known to be, or plausibly > alleged to be, a supporter of the > terrorist movements the US is currently > at war with, also wants to board the same > plane. In that situation, your v

Re: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread georgemw
On 4 Nov 2001, at 8:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Senator Kerrey was cerrtainly a mass murderer, and the > guardsmen who stopped her from flying were certainly thugs, > but the reason there are arguably grounds for overlooking > Kerrey's cynical murders and the guardsmen's thuggery ,is > that i

Re: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread Reese
At 03:10 AM 11/4/01 -0800, Raymond D. Mereniuk wrote: >Back to Sandy's coments Re: rape victims. Just because you got a >big mouth doesn't mean you should become a victim. Would you say greeting every police officer you meet by calling them "useless pigs" would be begging for victimhood? Ree

Re: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread Reese
At 07:36 AM 11/4/01 -0600, Jim Choate wrote: >On Sat, 3 Nov 2001, Reese wrote: Me, to Tim May: >> You didn't really read the interview, did you? >> >> The dumb cunt brought it on herself. Even you wouldn't spit in the >> eye of a cop at your door and expect no action to be taken. > >No she di

RE: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread Sandy Sandfort
Reese wrote: > Would you say greeting every police officer > you meet by calling them "useless pigs" > would be begging for victimhood? I'd say it's protected speech. If the cop can't handle that, can't live up to his oath to uphold the law of the land, than he shouldn't be a cop. S a n d y

RE: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread Reese
At 08:07 AM 11/4/01 -0800, Sandy Sandfort wrote: >Reese wrote: > >> At 12:32 AM 11/4/01 -0800, S a n d y wrote: >> >Reese wrote: >> > >> >> You didn't really read the interview, >> >> did you? >> >> >> >> The dumb cunt brought it on herself. >> > >> >Yeah, just like all those other rape victims...

Re: Soldiers in airports screening-out political dissidents

2001-11-04 Thread Reese
At 09:36 AM 11/4/01 -0800, Tim May wrote: >Actually, a person or business can "refuse to serve" on nearly any basis >except race or gender or a few other politically-correct things. "Tim's >Surf Shop" can choose not to wax the board of Reese, for whatever reason >it chooses. That's right, whe

RE: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread Reese
At 10:30 AM 11/4/01 -0800, Sandy Sandfort wrote: >Reese wrote: > >> Would you say greeting every police officer >> you meet by calling them "useless pigs" >> would be begging for victimhood? > >I'd say it's protected speech. If the cop can't handle that, can't live up >to his oath to uphold the l

Re: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread Reese
At 12:50 PM 11/4/01 -0600, Jim Choate wrote: >On Sun, 4 Nov 2001, Reese wrote: >> At 03:10 AM 11/4/01 -0800, Raymond D. Mereniuk wrote: >> >> >Back to Sandy's coments Re: rape victims. Just because you got a >> >big mouth doesn't mean you should become a victim. >> >> Would you say greeting ev

Re: CDR: Re: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread measl
On Sun, 4 Nov 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Analogously in Vietnam, the enemy mingled with the populace, > so that even with the best of intentions, US forces wound up > killing a lot of ordinary civilians, a problem made far worse > by the stupid "body count" policy, where young ambitious > o

RE: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread Sandy Sandfort
Reese wrote: > At 10:30 AM 11/4/01 -0800, Sandy Sandfort wrote: > ... > >I'd say it's protected speech. If the > >cop can't handle that, can't live up > >to his oath to uphold the law of the > >land, than he shouldn't be a cop. > > Meanwhile, in real life,,, Meanwhile, in real life, Reese wil

Reese's Test for the Discrimination of Pigs From Cops (Re: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread David Honig
At 08:24 AM 11/4/01 -1000, Reese wrote: > >Would you say greeting every police officer you meet by calling them >"useless pigs" would be begging for victimhood? > No, it would be testing the professionalism of the cop/pig in question. Any cop who reacts to being called "useless pig" is, in fact

RE: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread Reese
At 10:46 AM 11/4/01 -0800, Sandy Sandfort wrote: >Reese wrote: > >> Yet that is how millions of Americans >> are treated every day, usually because >> their skin isn't white enough, their >> bankbook not fat enough. Sound >> familiar? > >All too familiar. That's why it surprises me how avidly Re

Re: Reese's Test for the Discrimination of Pigs From Cops (Re: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread Reese
At 10:56 AM 11/4/01 -0800, David Honig wrote: >At 08:24 AM 11/4/01 -1000, Reese wrote: >> >>Would you say greeting every police officer you meet by calling them >>"useless pigs" would be begging for victimhood? >> > >No, it would be testing the professionalism of the cop/pig in question. Yep. >

Re: CDR: Re: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread Reese
At 01:03 PM 11/4/01 -0600, Jim Choate wrote: >On Sun, 4 Nov 2001, Reese wrote: >>>I'd say it was a good litmus test as to who should actually be a >>>police officer. Anyone who got perturbed by such a comment has >>>zero business being a law enforcement officer. >> >>I agree. Given the curren

Re: Soldiers in airports screening-out political dissidents

2001-11-04 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 08:45:05AM -1000, Reese wrote: > of Nat.Guard troops for civil things. So long as they do not bring in > regular active duty military, in violation of the posse comitatus act. This shows a common but not entirely correct view of the PCA. You may wish to read it for yourse

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Re: CDR: RE: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread measl
On Sun, 4 Nov 2001, Raymond D. Mereniuk wrote: > Ring a bell here? Green bad, Republican good, Christian good, > Muslim bad?, or the other way round!! It would be very sad if > America was to become this shallow! Too late. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really

Re: Canadian telling me not to worry so much about Canada- and Singapore-style measures

2001-11-04 Thread Raymond D. Mereniuk
On 3 Nov 2001, at 22:10, Tim May wrote: > This is why we are supposed to be a nation of _laws_, not of _men_. It > doesn't matter whether these soldiers are country bumpkins or not: the > Constitution still applies. (Scholars may opine that Bangor > International Airport has "invited" soldiers

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Re: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread Luthor Blisset
At 10:12 PM 11/3/01 -1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Any reasonable person reading Declan's article would realize the >dumb cunt brought it on herself by being a curmudgeon and a very >uncooperative one at that. Goodbye, Reese. *PLONK* -- Luthor //Remembering is copying and co

RE: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread John Young
>Later, you can send out your posts anonymously and be viciously, >uncompromisingly, honest. I think that's how some of the original >'Patriots' did it. As did the 'Atta Boys.' This 'Blanc' is now in the databank of crowing terrorists, and will be reluctantly quoted in the next national high al

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Re: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

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RE: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread Blanc
>From someone who isn't really John Young: :This 'Blanc' is now in the databank of crowing terrorists, and will be :reluctantly quoted in the next national high alert. Deceiving the homeland :guardians is treason. -- But, it's not my fault! As is said of girls wearing overl

Re: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread Jim Choate
On Sat, 3 Nov 2001, Raymond D. Mereniuk wrote: > Your mention of the list and the guardsman being aware of this > horrible threat coming through the airport were assumed but my > thought was it was a local redneck or folks in a vigilante mood. It > would appear this person was targeted. Whe

Re: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread Jim Choate
On Sat, 3 Nov 2001, Reese wrote: > You didn't really read the interview, did you? > > The dumb cunt brought it on herself. Even you wouldn't spit in the > eye of a cop at your door and expect no action to be taken. No she didn't. She has a legitimate right to express her political views of he

RE: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread Jim Choate
On Sun, 4 Nov 2001, Blanc wrote: > Later, you can send out your posts anonymously and be viciously, > uncompromisingly, honest. I think that's how some of the original > 'Patriots' did it. Actually I think they first sent out warning, tarred and feathered the objectionable who ignored it while

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Soldiers in airports screening-out political dissidents

2001-11-04 Thread Tim May
On Sunday, November 4, 2001, at 03:10 AM, Raymond D. Mereniuk wrote: > On 4 Nov 2001, at 0:49, Reese wrote: > >> What is precedent and case history of the "We reserve the right..." >> signs in public establishments, restaurants for example? How about >> the "no shirts, no shoes, no service" sign

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Re: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread Jim Choate
On Sun, 4 Nov 2001, Reese wrote: > At 03:10 AM 11/4/01 -0800, Raymond D. Mereniuk wrote: > > >Back to Sandy's coments Re: rape victims. Just because you got a > >big mouth doesn't mean you should become a victim. > > Would you say greeting every police officer you meet by calling them > "us

Re: CDR: Re: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread measl
On Sun, 4 Nov 2001, Jim Choate wrote: > On Sun, 4 Nov 2001, Reese wrote: > > > At 03:10 AM 11/4/01 -0800, Raymond D. Mereniuk wrote: > > > > >Back to Sandy's coments Re: rape victims. Just because you got a > > >big mouth doesn't mean you should become a victim. > > > > Would you say greeti

RE: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread Sandy Sandfort
Reese wrote: > You didn't really read the interview, > did you? > > The dumb cunt brought it on herself. Yeah, just like all those other rape victims... S a n d y

Re: CDR: Re: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread Jim Choate
On Sun, 4 Nov 2001, Reese wrote: > At 12:50 PM 11/4/01 -0600, Jim Choate wrote: > >On Sun, 4 Nov 2001, Reese wrote: > >> At 03:10 AM 11/4/01 -0800, Raymond D. Mereniuk wrote: > >> > >> >Back to Sandy's coments Re: rape victims. Just because you got a > >> >big mouth doesn't mean you should be

Re: CDR: Re: Soldiers in airports screening-out political dissidents

2001-11-04 Thread measl
On Sun, 4 Nov 2001, Reese wrote: > At the moment, it's National Guard, there is a long precedent for use > of Nat.Guard troops for civil things. So long as they do not bring in > regular active duty military, in violation of the posse comitatus act. And it is pure judicial fiat. Guardsmen on

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Re: CDR: Re: Soldiers in airports screening-out political dissidents

2001-11-04 Thread Jim Choate
On Sun, 4 Nov 2001, Reese wrote: > Working for the governor of their respective states, unless you're saying > they've been called up by the Army and federalized. There is a long list States are prohibited from having troops. Any(!) troops in the US (be they military, guard, or militia) ARE r

Re: CDR: Re: Soldiers in airports screening-out political dissidents

2001-11-04 Thread Jim Choate
On Sun, 4 Nov 2001, Reese wrote: > States are not prohibited from having a militia, the National Guard is an > organized militia, until such time they are federalized, at which point > they fall under the Army's Chain of Command. No, the can't except in cases of invasion. > Why do you think al

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Re: CDR: Re: Soldiers in airports screening-out political dissidents

2001-11-04 Thread measl
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Re: Soldiers in airports screening-out political dissidents

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2001-11-04 Thread Sandy Sandfort
C'punks, Friend of mine sent me this. I like the poetic justice of it. S a n d y > A Good Idea! > > All of the rubble from New York ... all the huge blocks of > concrete and steel, the old busted up computers, refrigerators, > hot water heaters, air conditioners, fire trucks, broken glass,

Re: American Schools Need Flattening Too

2001-11-04 Thread Major Variola (ret)
So ROTC recruiting uniformed american murders on high school campuses is not disruptive, but a t-shirt is. How about those adverts reminding male fodder to register for the draft? Fly that flag upside down. At 10:06 PM 11/2/01 -0800, Eric Cordian wrote: >CHARLESTON, W.Va. -- A judge ruled Thur

Green Party official refused security check, airline says

2001-11-04 Thread Declan McCullagh
- Forwarded message from Declan McCullagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: Declan McCullagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: FC: Green Party official refused security check, airline says To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2001 15:08:59 -0500 This Bangor Daily News artic

CNN.com - Appeal for death row inmate says lawyer also had represented victim - November 4, 2001

2001-11-04 Thread Jim Choate
http://www.cnn.com/2001/LAW/11/04/scotus.mickens.ap/index.html -- -- Day by day the Penguins are making me lose my mind. Bumper Sticker The Armadillo Grou

Ian Clarke speaking in Washington DC Monday

2001-11-04 Thread Declan McCullagh
Ian Clarke (architect of Freenet) will be in Washington, DC tomorrow and is giving an informal talk. I'm hosting the gathering, which is tomorrow, Monday, November 5, 2001 at 7 pm ET. Email me for directions, etc. if you're interested. -Declan

Get the IRS Off your BACK -- LEGALLY! [vnisu]

2001-11-04 Thread TaxNet
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Get the IRS Off your BACK -- LEGALLY! [watbp]

2001-11-04 Thread TaxNet
AMERICANS: Get the IRS off your BACK -- LEGALLY! THE SECRET the IRS is *TERRIFIED* you'll learn! YOU OWE NO FEDERAL INCOME TAX - and never have! Millions of Americans already have learned the truth and have dropped OUT of the system - (the IRS its

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2001-11-04 Thread Patty
If you are like me, you probably are looking for a business that is simple and has no risk. My husband and I have tried many advertising systems and on-line businesses and had little success until we found an amazing catalog business. It was very easy for us to get started because the cost was

Re: DRUDGE REPORT FLASH 2001® - New Yorker story false, says Pentagon

2001-11-04 Thread Bill Stewart
At 07:00 PM 11/04/2001 -0600, Jim Choate wrote: >http://www.drudgereport.com/flash.htm Drudge flashes about lots of things. It's nice to get a bit of context besides just the URL, Jim... This is the Pentagon claiming that the story about Delta Force getting shot up during a raid on Afghanistan

Re: A Deliberate Strategy of Disruption (washingtonpost.com)

2001-11-04 Thread Bill Stewart
At 07:02 PM 11/04/2001 -0600, Jim Choate wrote: >http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A36356-2001Nov3.html >-- Very strange - the article headline and subtitle are seriously at odds with the contents of the article. Sounds like the headline editor has much different opinions than Bob Woo

What is this country about? Freedom of only one kind?

2001-11-04 Thread super ego
(Ed. Note: Nancy Oden is a top U.S. Green Party official and a member of the party's coordinating committee. An organic farmer, peace activist, and all-around firebrand, she lives in Jonesboro, Maine.) "Just a few weeks ago I had a piece in the Bangor paper. It's on our website,

Re: DRUDGE REPORT FLASH 2001® - New Yorker story false=2 C says Pentagon

2001-11-04 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 07:01:43PM -0800, Bill Stewart wrote: > Also, I don't see any evidence that he "strongly debunked" the story; > he flamed it aggressively, but to strongly debunk something > you need facts, not just assertions. You also need to have read the Right. He claims the report is

Re: FW: Damn ! I wish I'd though ot fhis myself

2001-11-04 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 02:39:52PM -0800, Sandy Sandfort ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > C'punks, > > Friend of mine sent me this. I like the poetic justice of it. Terminal velocity of dust is pretty low. Reports are that the bulk of the WTC debris are same. There are structural components from t

CNN.com - Man arrested with knives, stun gun at O'Hare - November 4, 2001

2001-11-04 Thread Jim Choate
http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/11/04/inv.ohare.arrest/index.html -- -- Day by day the Penguins are making me lose my mind. Bumper Sticker The Armadillo Group

An Intelligence Giant in the Making (washingtonpost.com)

2001-11-04 Thread Jim Choate
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33340-2001Nov3.html -- -- Day by day the Penguins are making me lose my mind. Bumper Sticker The Armadillo

Re: CDR: Re: Soldiers in airports screening-out political dissidents

2001-11-04 Thread Jim Choate
On Sun, 4 Nov 2001, Reese wrote: > You've yet to show how the airport departure lounge and check-in counter > is the proper venue to address this. It isn't. ??? Why 'where' even relevant? If it doesn't apply all day, every day, every place then it applies no place at no time. As to a century

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Re: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread jamesd
-- On Sun, 4 Nov 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Analogously in Vietnam, the enemy mingled with the > > populace, so that even with the best of intentions, US > > forces wound up killing a lot of ordinary civilians, a > > problem made far worse by the stupid "body count" policy, > > where yo