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At 03:36 PM 10/20/01 -0700, Sandy Sandfort wrote:
>
>Now HERE is where you need that microwave.
Fucking spammers are getting even more creative these days.
Matt: AP is not yet possible. Do your homework. There is a long road
between theory and reality, and it is littered with the corpses of people
who couldn't tell the difference. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson
You have no idea how glad I am to here that.Jim and carl may also be
suprised.Now if you and
On Saturday, October 20, 2001, at 08:40 PM, Jon Beets wrote:
> http://www.citypaper.net/articles/101801/news.godfrey.shtml
>
>
Try to keep up, will you.
We discussed this exact article and event in a dozen posts a few days
ago.
--Tim May
"How we burned in the prison camps later thinking: Wha
"Now HERE is where you need that microwave. "
Thanks sandy,I dont know what we'd do without you. Whats the difference
between anal sex and a microwave?
Only one browns your meat.
Harmon Seaver wrote:
>
> Hmm, one of these would be handy.
> http://www.eltroncards.com/printers/p520.htm
Yah, but it comes with only Windows drivers!
No prices given, either. That's a bad sign.
--
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"Good people
> My Norcal culture-informant has forwarded
> a picture of a sign from a
> bathroom which reads in red serif:
>
> "Due to recent world events,
> please clean up all body powder
> before leaving the locker room"
Other than the fact that a number of the scares are very real, the whole thing
keeps
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Date: Sun, 21 Oct
The info in the Interactive Week article is basically the same info
from the National Journal article previously posted here, which leads
me to suspect that Baker is simply repeating the same rumor to
everyone who'll write about it.
But. it is interesting that they say "router manufacturer
All the more reason to use Linux routers and firewalls.
Especially if Cisco pulls a Larry Ellison.
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On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, Harmon Seaver wrote:
>All the more reason to use Linux routers and firewalls.
> Especially if Cisco pulls a Larry Ellison.
Nope, Plan 9.
http://plan9.bell-labs.com
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The people never
http://www.bergen.com/news/candy1200110207.htm
--
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The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.
Edmund Burke (1784)
The Armadillo Group
Why Plan-9? I'd say go with OpenBSD. :) Built in crypto, built in
firewall, secure on installation without you needing to tweak stuff. Hell
you can even tell it to encrypt swap pages.
--Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos---
+ ^ + :Surveillance cameras|Passw
On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, Sunder wrote:
> Why Plan-9? I'd say go with OpenBSD. :) Built in crypto, built in
> firewall,
You mean there are OS'es that don't?
> secure on installation without you needing to tweak stuff.
You mean all(!) OS'es don't do this already?
> Hell you can even tell it t
On Fri, 19 Oct 2001, Greg Newby wrote:
> For the interested, here's a great recipe for composition 4
> explosives: http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/tech/c4.html
Since some of the chemicals cited in above recipe are not so easily
obtainable, so feel free to substitute them by powdered RDX and
Sunder wrote:
>
> Why Plan-9? I'd say go with OpenBSD. :) Built in crypto, built in
> firewall, secure on installation without you needing to tweak stuff. Hell
> you can even tell it to encrypt swap pages.
I'd really like to use OBSD for my always-on server, but there are a few
shortcomings.
On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, Steve Furlong wrote:
> - Encrypted file systems: I want my main server to have TCFS or
> equivalent, so if the machine is seized the feebs would see a tiny boot
> partition and a large, strongly-encrypted main partition. I tried a few
> encrypted file systems a while back, a
the ban does not apply in time of war, the newspaper said.
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20011021/ts/attack_cia_binladen_dc_1.html
On 21, Oct, 2001 at 11:43:12AM -0400, Steve Furlong wrote:
> Sunder wrote:
> >
> > Why Plan-9? I'd say go with OpenBSD. :) Built in crypto, built in
> > firewall, secure on installation without you needing to tweak stuff. Hell
> > you can even tell it to encrypt swap pages.
>
> I'd really lik
On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, Harmon Seaver wrote:
>All the more reason to use Linux routers and firewalls.
> Especially if Cisco pulls a Larry Ellison.
>
> --
> Harmon Seaver, MLIS
That's fine and dandy for ds1's, and maybe even enough for the majority of
fractional ds3 customers, but how are
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On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, mattd wrote:
> "Now HERE is where you need that microwave. "
> Thanks sandy,I dont know what we'd do without you. Whats the difference
> between anal sex and a microwave?
> Only one browns your meat.
which one?
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At 10:17 PM 10/20/01 -0500, Jim Choate wrote:
>http://www.abc.state.va.us/Education/fakeid/fakeid.htm
>--
"Offense of moral turpitude or a
conviction of possessing,
manufacturing, using or selling fake IDs
will appear on your permanent criminal
record. "
Sounds like something you'd tell childre
Sorry I was gone and the mail server dropped some of my email..
Jon Beets
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From: "Tim May" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 11:29 PM
Subject: Re: Read a book and get banned from an airline
> On Saturday, October 20,
On 20 Oct 2001, at 22:09, Dr. Evil wrote:
> Carry your passport, which doesn't have a mag strip
> (last time I checked).
My US passport does have a magstrip. It's embedded in the front
cover, and must be read by a special device. I've seen it scanned
only once, when leaving Montreal to ret
On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, mattd wrote:
> Matt: AP is not yet possible. Do your homework. There is a long road
> between theory and reality, and it is littered with the corpses of people
> who couldn't tell the difference. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson
>
> You have no idea how glad I am to here that.Jim
On Thu, 18 Oct 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> A specialized ultrasonic device is not required to produce micron fine
> aerosol powders. All one needs is a used and cleaned print head
In fact not, pressure waves strong enough to aerosol liquid will also
cause cavitation, resulting in heating an
First Israel, now Vietnam. Only Vietnam wants the US to
charge US citizens with terroristm against Vietnam.
Curiouser and curiouser.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-102101viet.story
Excerpts:
As the United States presses its war against terrorism,
Vietnam is demanding that Am
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Sholanda Maria Coleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there anyway I can talk to one of your representatives? I'm very anxious
> to get started.
How much laboratory experience do you have? Specifically, we're
looking for people with experience handling white powders. Also,
please let us know
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Eugene wrote:
>Brush painted a grim picture of "Internet martial law" being imposed in a
>vain attempt to capture distributed terrorist groups. Terrorists' style of
>"Net war," a term coined earlier by experts at the RAND policy think tank,
>would prove elusive
Steve Furlong wrote:
> Sunder wrote:
> >
> > Why Plan-9? I'd say go with OpenBSD. :) Built in crypto, built in
> > firewall, secure on installation without you needing to tweak stuff. Hell
> > you can even tell it to encrypt swap pages.
>
> I'd really like to use OBSD for my always-on server,
http://www.observer.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,577846,00.html
--
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The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.
Edmund Burke (1784)
Th
on Sun, Oct 21, 2001 at 06:29:16PM -0500, Jim Choate ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, Karsten M. Self wrote:
>
> > This says nothing about current development. Word I've heard (from
> > someone tangentially involved with the project) was that the release was
> > something of a d
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on Sun, Oct 21, 2001 at 06:02:17PM -0700, David Honig ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> At 02:56 PM 10/21/01 -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> >The media hype also tends to ignore the fact that anthrax is, in the
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On Sun, 21 Oct 2001 21:01:40 +0200 (MET DST), Eugene Leitl
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Thu, 18 Oct 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> A specialized ultrasonic device is not required to produce micron fine
>> aerosol powders. All one needs is a used and cle
On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> Summer, June/July, IIRC. I've done a couple of look-ups since. There's
> been little additional news or information (I'm not saying none, I'm
> saying little). OpenBSD, a relatively little-known free 'nix, gets
> rather more press and community co
David Honig wrote:
>
> At 06:42 PM 10/21/01 -0400, Steve Furlong wrote:
> >I'm tempted to scatter baker's yeast in a public place and powdered
>
> All the packaged yeast I've ever seen is *way* too coarse to inhale,
> and if you did snort yeast, it wouldn't make it to the depths of your
> lungs.
At 02:56 PM 10/21/01 -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
>The media hype also tends to ignore the fact that anthrax is, in the
>forms detected to date, largely treatable. Gross attempts at
>containment (expensive) are less advisable than identification and
>treatment of exposed individuals (less expens
National Public Radio (NPR) Morning Edition (11:00 AM AM ET)
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Beefing up security at America's dams and reservoirs
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There's
At 06:42 PM 10/21/01 -0400, Steve Furlong wrote:
>I'm tempted to scatter baker's yeast in a public place and powdered
All the packaged yeast I've ever seen is *way* too coarse to inhale,
and if you did snort yeast, it wouldn't make it to the depths of your
lungs.
I'm actually surprised to see Steve launch into a critique of laissez-faire
capitalism here on cypherpunks, of all places. One can admit that
globalization has ill effects (mostly, bricks through windows of Starbucks
thrown by bored, upper-middle-class, college-age protesters), certainly.
But
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, Harmon Seaver wrote:
>
> >All the more reason to use Linux routers and firewalls.
> > Especially if Cisco pulls a Larry Ellison.
> >
> > --
> > Harmon Seaver, MLIS
>
> That's fine and dandy for ds1's, and maybe even enough for the majority o
FBI considers torture as suspects stay silent
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,2001350021-2001364909,00.html
AMERICAN investigators are considering resorting to harsher interrogation techniques,
including torture, after facing a wall of silence from jailed suspected members of
Osama bin Lad
At 10:02 PM 10/21/2001 -0700, Declan McCullagh wrote:
>I'm actually surprised to see Steve launch into a critique of
>laissez-faire capitalism here on cypherpunks, of all places. One can admit
>that globalization has ill effects (mostly, bricks through windows of
>Starbucks thrown by bored, upp
At 03:20 AM 10/22/2001 +0200, Nomen Nescio wrote:
>National Public Radio (NPR) Morning Edition (11:00 AM AM ET)
>Thursday, Oct. 18, 2001
>
>Beefing up security at America's dams and reservoirs
>
>BOB EDWARDS, host: This is MORNING EDITION from NPR News. I'm Bob
>Edwards.
Should have used the tit
On Sunday, October 21, 2001, at 06:02 PM, David Honig wrote:
> At 02:56 PM 10/21/01 -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
>> The media hype also tends to ignore the fact that anthrax is, in the
>> forms detected to date, largely treatable. Gross attempts at
>> containment (expensive) are less advisable
FBI considers torture as suspects stay silent
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,2001350021-2001364909,00.html
AMERICAN investigators are considering resorting to harsher
interrogation techniques, including torture, after facing a wall of
silence from jailed suspected members of Osama bin Lad
--
On 20 Oct 2001, at 16:31, Jim Choate wrote:
> What it takes to have reasonable living standards and
> sufficient resources to help ones children do better than
> themselves. The reality is that these sweatshops do exist,
> that they do exploit the workers, and that they are
> specifical
On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, Sandy Sandfort wrote:
> Hear, hear.
>
> This sort of crap is the inevitable outcome of an unmoderated list.
And the inevitable outcome of a _moderated_ list is that free expression
(loon-like or not) is sacrificed.
No thanks.
Censorship. er, "moderation" is bad, regar
On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, Khoder bin Hakkin wrote:
> In Washington, Ridge told reporters the anthrax analyzed in the United
> States had not been ``weaponized,'' meaning it had not been manipulated
> to
> facilitate inhalation by potential victims.
Actually, "weaponization" of germs is a two faceted
J.A. Terranson wrote:
> And the inevitable outcome of a _moderated_
> list is that free expression (loon-like or
> not) is sacrificed.
Nonsense. You don't understand the marketplace of ideas. Free expression
is "sacrificed" only if other outlet for expression are silenced. I cannot
and would
--
James A. Donald:
> > In Africa two Soviet sponsored tyrannies, both of which
> > had been committing mass murder on an enormous scale,
> > were overthrown though not replaced by democracies.
On 20 Oct 2001, at 0:30, Reese wrote:
> Do these two former-Soviet/current-? have names?
Eth
--
Somoza fell largely because of US pressure, so he was not
"our SOB". Furthermore however nasty Somoza was, we did not
see tens of thousands of refugees escaping Nicaragua to
neighbouring countries during his rule.
The short story of Nicaragua is that there was a US sponsored
overthro
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On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, Tim May wrote:
> "Any employee of our Company is free to "organize." That day wlll be
> his last day. Good luck, and fuck you!"
>
> Free people are free to fire those who form communal organizations.
> Anyone who disagrees with this point has earned killing.
No, they ha
On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote:
> To argue against people voluntarily entering into market-based transactions
> with each other is so a-economical and contrary to cypherpunk philosophies*
> -- wlel, I just don't think it's worth taking the time to go any further in
> a response.
On Sunday, October 21, 2001, at 08:27 PM, Steve Schear wrote:
> At 10:02 PM 10/21/2001 -0700, Declan McCullagh wrote:
>> I'm actually surprised to see Steve launch into a critique of
>> laissez-faire capitalism here on cypherpunks, of all places. One can
>> admit that globalization has ill effe
On Sunday, October 21, 2001, at 09:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> --
> On 20 Oct 2001, at 16:31, Jim Choate wrote:
>> What it takes to have reasonable living standards and
>> sufficient resources to help ones children do better than
>> themselves. The reality is that these sweatshops do ex
[Note from Matthew Gaylor: It is an established procedure of a
government to first hint at something that they are considering to
gauge the reaction. This has got to be one of the more disturbing
items I've read over the course of the last couple of weeks. The US
constitution and bill of ri
On Sun, 21 Oct 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> --
> On 20 Oct 2001, at 16:31, Jim Choate wrote:
> > What it takes to have reasonable living standards and
> > sufficient resources to help ones children do better than
> > themselves. The reality is that these sweatshops do exist,
> > that t
On Sunday, October 21, 2001, at 06:34 PM, Karsten M. Self wrote:
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> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash
> Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> http://kmself.home.netcom.com/
> What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? H
On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, Tim May wrote:
> We should "close down" the horrible sweatshops in Asia, India, South
> America, and other hellholes. (Africa is not counted because they are
> below sweat shop standards.)
Nonsense. What we should do is bring them under rule of law and ensure
that their e
At 08:30 PM 10/21/2001 -0700, Tim May wrote:
>I saw the Sturgeon General explaining that "we now have better treatment
>methods."
Depends a lot on which strain it is - some varieties of anthrax are
treatable by penicillin and some other common antibiotics,
while others are resistent and need Cip
The London Times article on FBI torture referred to
"Robert Blitzer, a former head of the FBIs counter-terrorism section".
Does anybody know if he's related to journalist Wolf Blitzer?
On Sunday, October 21, 2001, at 11:30 PM, Bill Stewart wrote:
> At 08:30 PM 10/21/2001 -0700, Tim May wrote:
>> I saw the Sturgeon General explaining that "we now have better
>> treatment methods."
>
> Depends a lot on which strain it is - some varieties of anthrax are
> treatable by penicillin
on Sun, Oct 21, 2001 at 08:30:19PM -0500, Jim Choate ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, Karsten M. Self wrote:
>
> > Summer, June/July, IIRC. I've done a couple of look-ups since. There's
> > been little additional news or information (I'm not saying none, I'm
> > saying little).
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on Sun, Oct 21, 2001 at 10:26:55PM -0700, Tim May ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Sunday, October 21, 2001, at 06:34 PM, Karsten M. Self wrote:
>
> > gpg: Invalid passphrase; please try again ...
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<...>
> Jesus
> I'm actually surprised to see Steve launch into a critique of laissez-faire
> capitalism here on cypherpunks, of all places. One can admit that
> globalization has ill effects (mostly, bricks through windows of Starbucks
> thrown by bored, upper-middle-class, college-age protesters), certainl
http://www.vitanuova.com/plan9/licensing.html
--
--
The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.
Edmund Burke (1784)
The Armadillo Group
>From Tim, Killer Cypherpunk, in a couple of posts about a half-hour apart:
:Free people are free to fire those who form communal organizations.
:Anyone who disagrees with this point has earned killing.
[and]
:Fucking creep. Where's that sniper rifle, Bob?
-
Someone told me
On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> Nutshell argument: license interactions are factorial.
How so? Proof?
> Interaction complexity reduces overall value of a codebase, and tends to
> marginalize minority licenses.
Interaction for who, the author or the user? All license start out
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