Thanks to Interesting People and Matthew Gaylor here is the
ABC News report of December 6, 2000, on the cell phone gun:
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world/DailyNews/phone001205.html
On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, John Young wrote:
> Thanks to Interesting People and Matthew Gaylor here is the
> ABC News report of December 6, 2000, on the cell phone gun:
>
> http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world/DailyNews/phone001205.html
What's the big deal? A polished, greased metal thorn, spool of ca
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Date: 11 Aug 2001 00:43:19 GMT
From: David Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: NSA's new mode of operation broken in less than 24 hours
Since I saw some discussion of NSA's Dual Counter Mode here
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 01:35:39 -0300
From: "Paulo S. L. M. Barreto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: NSA withdraws proposed mode of operation
Many coderpunks probably already know the details; anyway, here's the story.
Phillip Rogaway's
> [EMAIL PROTECTED][SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
>
> Microsoft, as a whole, is incompetent at security. All
> supposedly secure software coming out of Microsoft varies from
> poor to worthless. Does anyone doubt it? They take standard
> well known methods and make well known bungles in appl
On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Trei, Peter wrote:
> I hate to say this, but until software developers are held (at least
> at the corporate level) in some way liable for their failures, there
> will be little or no improvement in the situation.
I think this is the wrong approach to the situation. Making p
On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 10:30:14AM -0400, Trei, Peter wrote:
> I occasionally see the argument that NSA can't retain people due
> to the much higher salaries, etc, in the public sector. While I have
> no doubt that this is partially true, there are plenty of very good
> people who find that the no
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On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 10:30:14AM -0400, Trei, Peter wrote:
> If MS ever decided that they were losing money due to poor security,
> they would get good at it, fast. How many fewer copies of WinXP will
> they sell due to Code Red I, II, and III? Not many. A few (a very few)
> sysadmins may deci
> Black Unicorn[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
> From: "Eugene Leitl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Trei, Peter wrote:
> >
> > > I hate to say this, but until software developers are held (at least
> > > at the corporate level) in some way liable for their failures, there
> > > will
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Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 11:48:22 -0400
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On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Eric Murray wrote:
> Especially with the press constantly telling them "Linux is hard".
If they listen to the press, they have only themselves to blame.
Sheep frequently end as yummy lamb chops.
> Most people know that MS software is buggy and inecure. But they think
> that
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Subject: FC: South Africa moves to increase Net-surveillance, limit
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Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 11:31:48 -0400
A quick summary of South Africa's "Inter
> Black Unicorn[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
> From: "Eugene Leitl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Trei, Peter wrote:
> >
> > > I hate to say this, but until software developers are held (at least
> > > at the corporate level) in some way liable for their failures, there
> > > will
On Monday, August 13, 2001, at 10:14 AM, Trei, Peter wrote:
> [I hate to post something that makes it look as if I'm doing further
> BU bashing (which is not my intention), but:...]
>
> When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. There are
> other groups which can apply pressure
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On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Black Unicorn wrote:
>Do I think that software should have products liability attached to it? No.
>Do I think strict liability stifles innovation? No.
I would actually like to make a smaller point here. Broadly I
agree with BU, but I'd like to analyze it a little.
If
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> On 13 Aug 2001, at 9:42, Black Unicorn wrote:
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> >
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> > From: "Eugene Leitl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 01:14:10PM -0400, Trei, Peter wrote:
> other groups which can apply pressure than lawyers, courts and Men
> with Guns. Auditors and insurance companies come to mind. Schneier
> has noted how improvements in safe (as in a secure metal box)
> technology was driven not by lo
On 13 Aug 2001, at 9:42, Black Unicorn wrote:
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On 13 Aug 2001, at 13:33, Black Unicorn wrote:
> The theory is that if your goal is to reduce accidents and claims you allow
> the market to incorporate that sort of risk (which in early innovation looks a
> lot like an externality) into the innovation process. Activities, it is
> argued, which
On 13 Aug 2001, Dr. Evil wrote:
> Copyrights expire; property doesn't.
Never bought milk I guess, or a pet, or been to the beach
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> > Copyrights expire; property doesn't.
>
> Never bought milk I guess, or a pet, or been to the beach
Ah, good point. To be more clear: property rights don't expire, but
the property itself might. Speaking of which I think I need to clean
my fridge. But I still have title to that OJ, no
J.A. Terranson wrote:
>> Regarding terrorists. Our government conveniently defines a "terrorist"
>> as any sub-national group that breaks the law in order to influence
>> opinion.
>> Note under such a definition, no recognized government can commit a
>> terrorist act, even if it firebombs nuns
Declan wrote, quoting himself:
> > Yet some form of PPU remailer could exist today: A remailer would find a
> > cookie and an encrypted-to-PPU-public-key credit card in the body of the
> > message it receives. It would then debit a credit card for, say, $3 and
> [...]
> > The usual objection to
On 14 Aug 2001, lcs Mixmaster Remailer wrote:
> An alternative is to pay the first remailer for the whole chain, and then
> to have that remailer pay the second remailer, the second remailer pay
> the third remailer, and so on. This way the follow-on remailers don't
> know who the original send
http://slashdot.org/yro/01/08/13/1947257.shtml
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Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 23:09:40 -0500 (CDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Randy Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Mitch Halmu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting
On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Randy Bush wrote:
> >> you could be right. i guess it
On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, Jared Mauch wrote:
> > No, I'm not talking about the spammers who were caught in maps, I'm
> > referring to the INNOCENTS who were caught in MAPS. If the LEO community
> > acted like MAPS does, there would have been armed revolution in the
> > streets *years ago*.
> >
> >
On 13 Aug 2001, John R. Levine wrote:
> I can't say I'm surprised. When he's not writing copy protection and
> password cracking code, he's also one of the world's leading authors
> of spamware, both programs to scrape e-mail addresses from web pages
> (http://www.mailutilities.com/aee/) and to
The whole purpose of MAPS is the Balkanization of the internet.
Balkanization of the Internet is a good thing. There should be parts
of the Internet that are spam-free (that's where I want to be) and
other parts where peoples' mailboxes are constantly full of
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On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 09:06:48PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I cannot express how fed up I am with this type of tunnel-vision
> HYPOCRISY.
>
> The same folks who are screaming that writing public crypto code must be
> covered by the 1st because "it is good" are screaming that Sklyarov is
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