HAVING TROUBLE GETTING APPROVED ON LOANS

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HAVING TROUBLE GETTING APPROVED ON LOANS

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Floridans Protest Street Cameras

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Congress in action: Hearing on "media violence" planned

2001-07-16 Thread Declan McCullagh
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT: Ken Johnson or Jon Tripp Monday, July 16, 2001 202-225-5735 UPTON ANNOUNCES HEARING ON MEDIA VIOLENCE WASHINGTON (July 16) - Rep. Fred Upton (R-MI), Chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Telecommunications

Recording cops, technology vs. the law, and Mass. court decision

2001-07-16 Thread Declan McCullagh
- Forwarded message from Declan McCullagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: Declan McCullagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: FC: Massachusetts high court rules against man who taped abusive cops To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 05:52:03 -0700 This is a fascinating case. The majorit

Re: Slashdot | Recording Police Misconduct is Illegal

2001-07-16 Thread Eugene Leitl
On Sat, 14 Jul 2001, Greg Newby wrote: > This is a good opportunity to urge cp's who haven't yet, to read David > Brin's "Transparent Society." It's pie in the sky, but essentially > advocates having cameras everywhere, so that anyone anywhere can tap > into a video feed. Brin's scenario is sym

Re: Slashdot | Recording Police Misconduct is Illegal

2001-07-16 Thread George
Eugene Leitl wrote: # #What we're getting (surprise, surprise) is that recording of #the public is allright but not recording *by* the public. Mann's #"shooting back" is rapidly getting outlawed. I'm not one to make apologies for this sort of thing, and perhaps I skimmed the articl

Re: Slashdot | Recording Police Misconduct is Illegal

2001-07-16 Thread David Honig
At 04:20 PM 7/16/01 +0200, Eugene Leitl wrote: >On Sat, 14 Jul 2001, Greg Newby wrote: > > Mann's "shooting back" is rapidly >getting outlawed. Heh, some of Mann's work involves pseudo-cameras (or dark acrylic plates on your shirt, or leds under domes on your backback), so can we look forward to

Re: Meatspace

2001-07-16 Thread Steve Thompson
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > : After more than a quarter of a century in prison, a Black Panther > : activist has won the right to a new trial. A judge ruled there had > : been prosecutorial misconduct. The judge overturned the conviction > : when it was disclosed the

RE: Slashdot | Recording Police Misconduct is Illegal

2001-07-16 Thread Trei, Peter
Yes, this is correct. If you make a *sound* recording in this state, all the parties present have to consent (and, I think, consent). The issue is not that a recording was made, but that it was made secretly. No such limitation exists on video recordings. [FWIW, my opinion is that a police offi

RE: Slashdot | Recording Police Misconduct is Illegal

2001-07-16 Thread Trei, Peter
In MA, the law is not just against 'secret recording'; the wording states that the "consent" of all parties must exist. (It does not state what constitutes consent). PT > -- > From: David Honig[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 10:56 AM > To: Eugene

[rdcrisp@earthlink.net: the case of the forwarded email]

2001-07-16 Thread Dave Emery
- Forwarded message from Richard Crisp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2001/07/13/museum_security_network/index.html The case of the forwarded e-mail Online allegations of Nazi-looted art inspire a suit that could test the limits of Internet libel law. - - - - -

Re: Meatspace

2001-07-16 Thread jamesd
-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > If those radicals were being murdered by the feds, the radical > > left would have been eager to have them investigated, instead of > > closing their eyes and looking the other way, and suddenly > > dropping vanished radicals down the memory hatch. On 15 Jul 2001, at

Re: Meatspace

2001-07-16 Thread George
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: # #The blank panthers and the rest were opposed to the #bourgeois democratic process. Is that some sort of excuse for the treatment I listed?

Re: Floridans Protest Street Cameras

2001-07-16 Thread George
The Tampa Bay Action Group http://www.sptimes.com/News/071501/TampaBay/Masked_protesters_fig.shtml The Tampa Bay Business Journal editorial http://tampabay.bcentral.com/tampabay/stories/2001/07/16/editorial2.html?t=printable

Re: Slashdot | Recording Police Misconduct is Illegal

2001-07-16 Thread George
Gurly cypherpunk Aimee wrote: # #Critics of contemporary surveillance law point out that we #increasingly live in a world where THEY can spy on you, but you #can't spy on THEM. Governments, business and employers are like #bad parents that say, "*I* can do it -- but you can't."

RE: Slashdot | Recording Police Misconduct is Illegal

2001-07-16 Thread Aimee Farr
> Isn't the ruling not specific to recording the police, > but that MA has a two-party recording rule? Correct. You might find it interesting that a number of states are considering (or revisiting) visual recording statutes. One form has a privacy expectation and exceptions for prisons, security

RE: Slashdot | Recording Police Misconduct is Illegal

2001-07-16 Thread Aimee Farr
BTW, Mass. has always been "funny" about electronic surveillance. State history is very interesting, and so is the law. (Early on, their police wouldn't wiretap, it was not "gentlemanly." Ahem.) Consider the traditionalist two-party states and ponder on the true nature of the historical parallels

Re: Slashdot | Recording Police Misconduct is Illegal

2001-07-16 Thread Declan McCullagh
Keep in mind that the Mass. decision that started this thread only dealt with *surreptitious* recording. Mann's "shooting back" is still allowed even in Mass. as long as it's obvious what you're doing. -Declan On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 04:20:56PM +0200, Eugene Leitl wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jul 2001,

Re: Slashdot | Recording Police Misconduct is Illegal

2001-07-16 Thread Declan McCullagh
I was thinking along the same lines as David. Stickers in windshields would work. I've also seen folks selling the "these are my rights, cop" cards. Seems to be a market opportunity to add another line to them. -Declan On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 07:56:08AM -0700, David Honig wrote: > At 04:20 PM

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RE: Slashdot | Recording Police Misconduct is Illegal

2001-07-16 Thread Sandy Sandfort
Jon Beets wrote: > police should not have the same > standards as regular citizens > when performing their public > duties...They work for the people > and therefore should be accountable > for the people just like any boss > should be able to monitor their > employees Some of you know Hugh

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RE: Slashdot | Recording Police Misconduct is Illegal

2001-07-16 Thread Aimee Farr
On an adult level, companies that adopt "1984ish" employee monitoring policies know not what they do On a societal level, we are responding to feelings of pervasive surveillance. "THEY" got it - we don't. Do we feel threatened? What we you do? ANSWER: http://www.indymedia.org. That is more th

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RE: Slashdot | Recording Police Misconduct is Illegal

2001-07-16 Thread Aimee Farr
Matt said: > So I guess the moral of the story is that if you must record the > police you should do so clandestinely. The Court addressed this: "Followed to its logical conclusion, the dissent would encourage drug manufacturers to mount hidden video cameras in their facilities so they can capt

Re: What NAI is telling people

2001-07-16 Thread Eric Murray
On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 06:41:22PM -0500, Aimee Farr wrote: > Companies with products or applications relevant to defense are wary of > email from certain sovereigns. This is because they don't want clueless reps > giving away bacon in an email pretext attack. The government has been > harping on

RE: What NAI is telling people

2001-07-16 Thread Aimee Farr
Companies with products or applications relevant to defense are wary of email from certain sovereigns. This is because they don't want clueless reps giving away bacon in an email pretext attack. The government has been harping on it lately. Maybe the rep got a talkie and is confused ...or somethin

RE: Slashdot | Recording Police Misconduct is Illegal

2001-07-16 Thread Jim Choate
On Mon, 16 Jul 2001, Aimee Farr wrote: > You can protect privacy without depriving people of the right to protect > themselves. Only a lawyer, or crack head, could have thinking that fucked up. 'protect privacy' is equivalent to 'right to protect themselves'. --

Re: What NAI is telling people

2001-07-16 Thread Bill Stewart
At 02:29 PM 07/16/2001 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Anyone have any idea if any ISPs are refusing to accept encrypted >email from "black-listed" countries? > >Or is this just a matter of NAI cluelessness? The usual principle of "Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by s

Re: Slashdot | Recording Police Misconduct is Illegal

2001-07-16 Thread Declan McCullagh
Ah, close but not the same. I was talking about cards that you hand to the cops who stop you. -Declan On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 02:50:00PM -0400, Greg Newby wrote: > On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 02:26:46PM -0400, Declan McCullagh wrote: > > > > I was thinking along the same lines as David. Stickers i

Re: What NAI is telling people

2001-07-16 Thread Declan McCullagh
Of course there is no law or regulation that prohibits individuals from accepting encrypted email from the blacklist countries (or an ISP from forwarding it). Though perhaps government pressure or simple misunderstanding can explain the situation you encountered. I'd be interested in any verifia

Peekabooty coverage from Reuters

2001-07-16 Thread Greg Newby
, I'd say. http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010716/tc/tech_censorship_dc_1.html ... Monday July 16 7:13 PM ET Hackers Developing Anti-Censorship Software By Elinor Abreu LAS VEGAS (Reuters) - A group of hackers is finishing work on software that would enable human rights workers to acces

Re: What NAI is telling people

2001-07-16 Thread codehead
On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 16:46:20 -0700, Eric Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 06:41:22PM -0500, Aimee Farr wrote: > > Companies with products or applications relevant to defense are wary of > > email from certain sovereigns. This is because they don't want clueless reps >

Re: Peekabooty coverage from Reuters

2001-07-16 Thread Declan McCullagh
;d say. > > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010716/tc/tech_censorship_dc_1.html > > ... > > Monday July 16 7:13 PM ET > > Hackers Developing Anti-Censorship Software > > By Elinor Abreu > > LAS VEGAS (Reuters) - A group of hackers is finishing work on s

Re: What NAI is telling people

2001-07-16 Thread codehead
Well, you can try calling the NAI number at 972-308-9960, and see what kind of story you get. I'm still trying to get an upgrade, which is what I called about in the first place. I've been having trouble dealing with one of their resellers, so had to go back to the source. This matter came u

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Re: What NAI is telling people

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At 09:06 PM 7/16/01 -0400, Declan McCullagh wrote: >Of course there is no law or regulation that prohibits individuals >from accepting encrypted email from the blacklist countries (or >an ISP from forwarding it). > >Though perhaps government pressure or simple misunderstanding can >explain the sit

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2001-07-16 Thread fromus33
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Re: What NAI is telling people

2001-07-16 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Back to the original question: It's obvious that NAI is operating >under the belief that some ISPs are complying with some unspoken BXA >idea/wannabe-law and blocking encrypted messages from "no-no" >originating domains. Is this really the case,

Re: What NAI is telling people

2001-07-16 Thread George
On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Back to the original question: It's obvious that NAI is operating >under the belief that some ISPs are complying with some unspoken BXA >idea/wannabe-law and blocking encrypted messages from "no-no" >originating domains. Is this really the case,

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