Re: Why Cops and Cypherpunk Meetings Don't Go Together

2000-08-26 Thread Steven Furlong
petro wrote: > > Tim May: > >made explicit because Yag Sotteth gives them to us! There are many > >well-meaning folks who claim that a "right to decent housing and > >adequate medical care" is a God-given right. Never let the Jesus > > I am not speaking to the "God-given" part, but I do

Re: family of russion sub victims drugged

2000-08-26 Thread David Honig
At 09:34 PM 8/25/00 -0400, Phaedrus wrote: > >...being 'treated' with electroshock therapy against her wishes and the >wishes of her son. She had originally voluntarily checked herself into the >hospital because she was depressed. The 'treatments' stopped only after >people innundated the hospital

Re: SF Internet self-defense course

2000-08-26 Thread David Honig
At 12:52 PM 8/25/00 -0400, Tim May wrote: >Longer term, crypto will indeed be more important for ordinary folks, >for lots of reasons. >Fact is, crypto takes effort to use. >Who uses crypto on a regular basis are those for whom the risks of >getting caught with certain material or certain th

Re: family of russion sub victims drugged

2000-08-26 Thread David Honig
At 03:18 PM 8/25/00 -0400, Tim May wrote: >how "Reagan emptied out the mental hospitals" in California. I ask >them if they are advocating forcible treatment of folks who may be >slightly crazy but who have not been given due process in a court of >law and given defined sentences. This shuts th

Re: family of russion sub victims drugged

2000-08-26 Thread David Honig
At 02:58 PM 8/25/00 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >http://www.guardianunlimited.co.uk/distribution/redirect_artifact/0,4678, >0-358842,00.html >antother link here. >http://www.guardianunlimited.co.uk/distribution/redirect_artifact/0,4678, >0-358700,00.hmtl This has been Drudge's cover story for

Re: family of russion sub victims drugged

2000-08-26 Thread David Honig
At 08:33 PM 8/25/00 -0400, Phaedrus wrote: >Don't get me wrong, if someone is a clear and present danger to other >people, and locking them up is the only way to make them *not* a clear and >present danger to other people then fine, That's pretty much the law. If a state-licensed mental health p

Re: SF Internet self-defense course

2000-08-26 Thread David Honig
At 06:06 AM 8/26/00 -0400, petro wrote: > A buddy of mine ran a Windows based packet sniffer on his >Cable Modem for a while. > Details, please. You would need to put the cable modem box into promiscious mode, or open it up and find where the RF gets turned into bits.

Re: deriving yarrow test vectors

2000-08-26 Thread David Honig
At 12:28 PM 8/25/00 -0400, Marcel Popescu wrote: >X-Loop: openpgp.net >From: "David Honig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> You could also use Shannon's formula directly to compute informational >> quantity. This might work better for short strings. > >Can you give me more info on that one? I think John

Re: family of russion sub victims drugged

2000-08-26 Thread Matt Elliott
>Something's fishy. If you voluntarily check in, you can check out >any time you want. Same with a regular hospital; all the MDs do >is write Against Medical Orders in your file and their asses are covered. This isn't the case in Illinois. If you check in voluntarily and wish to leave before t

Re: family of russion sub victims drugged

2000-08-26 Thread Tim May
At 10:09 PM -0400 8/26/00, Matt Elliott wrote: > >Something's fishy. If you voluntarily check in, you can check out >>any time you want. Same with a regular hospital; all the MDs do >>is write Against Medical Orders in your file and their asses are covered. > >This isn't the case in Illinois.