Re: FBI Requests File Removal

2000-07-21 Thread David Marshall
Steven Furlong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What do you call it when the _functionaries_ of the government must > hide from the people? 1) A police state. 2) Pretty damned sad.

RE: ZKS economic analysis

2000-07-21 Thread Tom Vogt
Ken Brown wrote: > every time I see you walking down the street I collect personally > identifying information about you. I store it in the little database in > my mind. You can't stop me. I may not do much with it, or write it down > anywhere, but it's there. Distasteful perhaps, you might not l

Spam bill

2000-07-21 Thread Marcel Popescu
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,37665,00.html [Ron Paul] said he opposed Wilson's anti-spam bill because it would cost taxpayers $60 million in computers and Federal Trade Commission labor to implement, and it would stomp on laws already on the books in 16 states. He is also confident

RE: Data in your mind vs. encrypted

2000-07-21 Thread Trei, Peter
> > Could I therefore be legally forced to provide > > a translation of what I write in Lojban? > > IANAL, and all that, but. It's my understanding that there's a precedent in which a government audit of a merchant was halted, or at least seriously delayed, when it was discovered that al

Re: FBI Requests File Removal

2000-07-21 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 3:40 AM -0400 on 7/21/00, David Marshall wrote: > Steven Furlong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> What do you call it when the _functionaries_ of the government must >> hide from the people? > > 1) A police state. > 2) Pretty damned sad. "Tyrrany" has a nice ring to it... :-). Cheers, RAH

Christianity vs. the 2nd ammendment

2000-07-21 Thread Marcel Popescu
[For the brain-impaired, I agree with the guy.] http://www.guntruths.com/Puckett/christianity_versus_the_second_a.htm Christianity vs. the 2nd ammendment By Brian Puckett I get angry when I consider the utter garbage that some "Christian leaders" nowadays dump on their followers regarding self-

sleeping with the emperor

2000-07-21 Thread Anonymous
21 July 2000. Add message and names. 20 July 2000 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Loop: openpgp.net From: John Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 20 July 2000 Subject: PSIA Request July 20, 2000 Federal Bureau of Investigation NCCS, New York C37 Dear FBI, This confirms my telephone remarks today th

Re: FBI Requests File Removal

2000-07-21 Thread Jim Burnes
On Thu, 20 Jul 2000, Tim May wrote: > At 8:17 PM -0400 7/20/00, Steven Furlong wrote: > >John Young wrote: > >> I have agreed with your request not to identify the two FBI Special > >> Agents to whom I spoke today. > > > >Why did they request that, and why did you agree? It's not like they're >

Re: FBI Requests File Removal

2000-07-21 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 11:17 AM -0400 on 7/21/00, R. A. Hettinga wrote: > "Tyrrany" Open mouth, insert spell-check. Tyranny, of course. Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may

Carnivore can be used for more than just snooping (was Re: FBI Requests File Removal)

2000-07-21 Thread sunder
"T. Bankson Roach" wrote: > > Let's think about this for a moment. Assume Carnivore is the deadliest > threat to American freedom since the Clintons arrived in Washington. > > First, we know about Carnivore, or think we do. Indeed. I'll not get into the moral questions of outing that pair of

Re: FBI Requests File Removal

2000-07-21 Thread Tim May
At 12:01 PM -0400 7/21/00, Jim Burnes wrote: >On Thu, 20 Jul 2000, Tim May wrote: > >> At 8:17 PM -0400 7/20/00, Steven Furlong wrote: >> >John Young wrote: >> >> I have agreed with your request not to identify the two FBI Special >> >> Agents to whom I spoke today. >> > >> >Why did they r

Re: FBI Requests File Removal

2000-07-21 Thread Steven Furlong
Tim May wrote: > > Well put. (This is the second fine essay from Gil Hamilton this > morning...I hope this signals more signal in the S/N ratio is coming.) > > Recall the case around October or November of last year when the FBI > applied pressure to an ISP to get a "Y2K training tape" yanked of

Re: FBI Requests File Removal

2000-07-21 Thread Steven Furlong
<> Tim May wrote: > Well put. (This is the second fine essay from Gil Hamilton this > morning...I hope this signals more signal in the S/N ratio is coming.) I've noticed that, too. Hardly any spam in the last day. Woo-hoo. > Recall the case around October or November of last year when the FB

Re: John Young, Freedom Fighter Extraordinaire

2000-07-21 Thread Adam Langley
On Fri, Jul 21, 2000 at 12:25:42PM -0400, Trei, Peter wrote: > [Normally, I detest 'me too' posts, but John needs to know that a lot of > people > back him up on this decision.] Same here (hating "me toos"), it's so nice not to see people rolling over for the govt. Thank you John. It's generally

Re: FBI Requests File Removal

2000-07-21 Thread Adam Langley
On Fri, Jul 21, 2000 at 03:03:19PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Wildly extrapolating from cpunk subscriber numbers we can say that there > >are probably no more than 100 000 individuals worldwide that have sufficient > >understanding of the internet technology to adequatly protect themselves

Re: FBI listening in on Emails

2000-07-21 Thread Marcel Popescu
X-Loop: openpgp.net From: "madmullah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > A patriot would fucking say what he dislikes about his country and what > needs improvement because a patriot would care for the long term best > interest of his country, no ? I like this guy. Mark

customs searches of disks?

2000-07-21 Thread David Honig
This came up on [EMAIL PROTECTED]: At 12:29 AM 7/21/00 -0700, wrote: >The interesting question (for this list) is, if some border officials >search your hard drive and they encounter encrypted files, what will >they do? My guess would be that they will demand the key and threaten >to deny you