"T. Bankson Roach" wrote: > > Let's think about this for a moment. Assume Carnivore is the deadliest > threat to American freedom since the Clintons arrived in Washington. > > First, we know about Carnivore, or think we do. Indeed. I'll not get into the moral questions of outing that pair of Feebs, nor will I get into the implied threats that JY got. Instead I'll point something out that I've been thinking that these boxes COULD do: Beyond the mass scale of sniffage of emails and what not, they could also be used to INSERT traffic into the networks by forging MAC addresses they have learned. This can be used to PLANT evidence, or be used for attacking enemies. They can also be used to run denyal of service attacks, or even sever connections by forging FIN, RST, and other TCP packets. How's that for extreme censorship? -- ----------------------Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--------------------------- + ^ + :Surveillance cameras|Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :aren't security. A |share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ <--*-->:camera won't stop a |monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\/ /|\ :masked killer, but |don't email them, or put them on a web \|/ + v + :will violate privacy|site, and you must change them very often. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunder.net ------------