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[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Why some Tor servers are slow (was Re: TOR Park Exit Node Question)]

2005-10-01 Thread Eugen Leitl
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2005-09-03 Thread Eugen Leitl
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Re: [p2p-hackers] MixMinion vs. onion routing & GNUnet question (fwd from seberino@spawar.navy.mil)

2004-11-08 Thread Eugen Leitl
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[p2p-hackers] MixMinion vs. onion routing & GNUnet question (fwd from fis@wiwi.hu-berlin.de)

2004-11-08 Thread Eugen Leitl
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2004-08-08 Thread Major Variola (ret)
Why do the long range RF folks always use Yagis? Aren't Yagis supposed to be fairly broadband? Aren't there other highly-directional (ie high gain in one direction) antennae which (simply by virtue of being narrow bandwidth) would be better? Or is it that Yagi's broadband-ness allows for more sl

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2004-05-18 Thread Peter Fairbrother
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Re: Diffie-Hellman question

2004-05-18 Thread Sarad AV
If your > prime is 2000 bits, > then that should be safe for the foreseeable future, > unless quantum > computers turn out to be practical for breaking > moduli of this size. Discrete Logarithms in GF(2^607)have been calculated over polynomial basis. http://listserv.nodak.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A2=in

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2004-05-17 Thread Anonymous
Thomas Shaddack writes: > I have a standard implementation of OpenSSL, with Diffie-Hellman prime in > the SSL certificate. The DH cipher suite is enabled. > > Is it safe to keep one prime there forever, or should I rather > periodically regenerate it? Why? If yes, what's some sane period to do so:

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2004-05-16 Thread Thomas Shaddack
I have a standard implementation of OpenSSL, with Diffie-Hellman prime in the SSL certificate. The DH cipher suite is enabled. Is it safe to keep one prime there forever, or should I rather periodically regenerate it? Why? If yes, what's some sane period to do so: day, week, month? If the advers

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2004-04-19 Thread Major Variola (ret)
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2004-04-19 Thread An Metet
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Re: Anonymity vs reputation question

2004-04-17 Thread Marcel Popescu
From: "Thomas Shaddack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Is it possible to have a system where nyms can share reputation without > divulging the links between them? That would allow the possibility of eg. > publishing as a "new" identity while still having the "weight" of an > already established seasoned pr

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2003-03-07 Thread David Howe
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2003-02-28 Thread MindFuq
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2003-01-13 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
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2002-12-01 Thread Peter Wayner
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Re: Question on P=NP

2002-12-01 Thread Jim Choate
On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, Sarad AV wrote: > Is the problem P=NP or not 'Decidable'. It's certainly an open question, so the answer is 'nobody knows'. I personaly don't think it is true (ie P<>NP), YMMV. -- ___

Re: Intel Security processor + a question

2002-10-21 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 05:13 PM 10/21/02 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote: > >So I guess the follow on question is: Even if you can look at the code of a >RNG...how easy is it to determine if its output is "usefully random", or are >there certain "Diffie-approved" RNGs that should always be t

Re: Intel Security processor + a question

2002-10-21 Thread Tyler Durden
have the necessary expertise to spot such coupling (for instance, certain RNGs may slightly emphasize the probability of certain subsets of primes...a cracker might write code which preferentially attacks those primes and thereby greatly decreasing cracking time). So I guess the follow on

Re: Intel Security processor + a question

2002-10-21 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 07:40 PM 10/18/02 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote: >Well,I disagree about psuedo random number generation, sort of. >First, if I have PSR sequence of the known variety (ie, ANSI or ITU), and if >it's mapped to some telecom standard (DS-1/3, OC-3/12/48/192), then my test >set can and should be able to

Re: Intel Security processor + a question

2002-10-21 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 21 Oct 2002 at 10:21, Major Variola (ret) wrote: > But no such "does it look random" test can tell good > PRNG from TRNG. You must peek under the hood. More generally, one can never know something is random merely by looking at it, but only by knowing why it is random. One must have bo

Re: Intel Security processor + a question

2002-10-18 Thread Tyler Durden
TECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Intel Security processor + a question Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 14:33:15 -0700 > From: "Tyler Durden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Intel Security processor + a question > > OK...a follow up question (actually, really

Re: Intel Security processor + a question

2002-10-18 Thread Major Variola (ret)
> From: "Tyler Durden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Intel Security processor + a question > > OK...a follow up question (actually, really the same question in a diferent > form). > > Let's say I had a crypto chip or other encryption engine, the co

Re: Intel Security processor + a question

2002-10-18 Thread Tyler Durden
OK...a follow up question (actually, really the same question in a diferent form). Let's say I had a crypto chip or other encryption engine, the code of which I could not see. Now what if someone had monkeyed with it so that (let's say) the pool of prime numbers it drew from was

Re: Intel Security processor + a question

2002-10-17 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Tyler Durden wrote: > If crypto is performed by hardware, how sure can users/designers be that it > is truly secure (since one can't examine the code)? Deterministic algorithms with known internal state and fed with same test vectors generate exactly the same output as thei

Re: Intel Security processor + a question

2002-10-17 Thread Mike Rosing
On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Tyler Durden wrote: > If crypto is performed by hardware, how sure can users/designers be that it > is truly secure (since one can't examine the code)? Is there any way to > determine whether standard forms of encryption have been monkeyed with in > some way (ie, to make those

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2002-10-17 Thread Tyler Durden
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2001-09-01 Thread Anonymous
In another message Tim wrote: >On Sunday, August 26, 2001, at 12:11 AM, Reese wrote: >> It's easy to stay on topic, or on a topic, it's another thing to be >> appropriate. Tim is good, but easy improvement is within reach, as >> you sort of noted. > > Fuck off. I'll take constructive criticism fr

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"A. Melon" wrote: [...] > I'm not sure if Reese was replying to one of my messages, but this > obsession less productive posters have with Tim is peculiar. > > Looked at as an engineering problem, one tends to look at the > underperforming components. Let's say you are running a steel mill, >

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In another message Tim wrote: >On Sunday, August 26, 2001, at 12:11 AM, Reese wrote: >> It's easy to stay on topic, or on a topic, it's another thing to be >> appropriate. Tim is good, but easy improvement is within reach, as >> you sort of noted. > > Fuck off. I'll take constructive criticism fr

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2001-07-28 Thread jamesd
-- On 27 Jul 2001, at 8:26, Ray Dillinger wrote: > > > This guy holding up the fire extinguisher two handed, on > > > the other hand, looks like he was intent on using it for a > > > battering ram -- to push in someone's face with it or > > > something. James A. Donald: > > There is a photogr

Re: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers & self defence

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Cite to the photo please? - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ray Dillinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 1:20 PM Subject: Re: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers & self defence &g

Re: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers & self defence

2001-07-28 Thread jamesd
-- On 27 Jul 2001, at 8:26, Ray Dillinger wrote: > This guy holding up the fire extinguisher two handed, on the other > hand, looks like he was intent on using it for a battering ram -- > to push in someone's face with it or something. There is a photograph of the fire extinguisher flying thr

RE: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers & self defence

2001-07-27 Thread Steve Schear
>On 24 Jul 2001, at 1:20, Petro wrote: > > And what is the primary responsibility of a soldier? Well, in > > Basic Training I was informed that my basic task was to seek > > out the enemy and destroy him. The primary, perhaps only, effective purpose of a military is to "break things and kill peo

Re: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers & self defence

2001-07-27 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >-- > >The rear window had been smashed in when they whacked the cop with the four inch >steel pipe, or when they whacked the cop with the two by four timber. so there was no >problem with chucking it underhand and sideways. Plenty of room. One

Re: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers & self defence

2001-07-27 Thread Ken Brown
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RE: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers & self defence

2001-07-27 Thread Petro
At 11:35 PM -0700 7/26/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >-- >On 24 Jul 2001, at 1:20, Petro wrote: >> And what is the primary responsibility of a soldier? Well, in >> Basic Training I was informed that my basic task was to seek >> out the enemy and destroy him. >> >> Whch is why using Soldiers in

Re: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers & self defence

2001-07-27 Thread jamesd
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Re: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers & self defence

2001-07-27 Thread jamesd
-- On 24 Jul 2001, at 0:14, Andrew Woods wrote: > If you look at the Reuters image of Carlo holding the fire extinguisher, > he's holding it below head-level. In my opinion, that leaves three options: > Carlo was going to chuck the extinguisher underhand (and sideways to the > vehicle, so it w

RE: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers & self defence

2001-07-27 Thread jamesd
-- On 24 Jul 2001, at 1:20, Petro wrote: > And what is the primary responsibility of a soldier? Well, in > Basic Training I was informed that my basic task was to seek > out the enemy and destroy him. > > Whch is why using Soldiers in peace keeping missions is a > really, really boneheaded mo

RE: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers & self defence

2001-07-25 Thread Phillip H. Zakas
the newchotian philosophy: reductio ad absurdum. phillip > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Choate > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 5:50 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: A question of self-defence -

Re: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers & self defence

2001-07-25 Thread Jon Beets
: "Jon Beets" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 3:14 AM Subject: Re: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers & self defence > If you look at the Reuters image of Carlo holding the fire extinguisher, > he's hol

RE: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers & self defence

2001-07-25 Thread Jim Choate
Spirit, Blood, and Treasure The American cost of battle in the 21st century D. Vandegriff, ed. ISBN 0-89141-735-4 "Minimal Force: The mark of a skilled warrior" John Poole pp. 107 The particular principle that is behind it is called, 'principium inculpatae tutelae' -- __

Re: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers & self defence

2001-07-25 Thread Ken Brown
Sandy Sandfort wrote: > > Not-a-lawyer wrote: [...] > > We're not talking about > > 'self-defence' here... > > No, we're talking 'self-defense', this is the US, not the UK. Actually Sandy, it was Italy. I haven't got the faintest ideas what the laws on self-defence are in Italy. And I'm bl

RE: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers & self defence

2001-07-25 Thread Sandy Sandfort
Declan McCullagh wrote: > On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 08:47:19AM -0700, > Sandy Sandfort wrote: > > It is educational (and it amuses me) > > to draw him out into parading his > > ignorance and intransigence for all > > to see. Of course, he won't admit he is > > Educational? Only in the study > of a

Re: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers & self defence

2001-07-25 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 08:47:19AM -0700, Sandy Sandfort wrote: > It is educational (and it amuses me) to draw him out into parading his > ignorance and intransigence for all to see. Of course, he won't admit he is Educational? Only in the study of aberrant thinking. I confess I've baited Choat

Re: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers & self defence

2001-07-25 Thread Andrew Woods
the truth.. > >Jon Beets >Pacer Communications > >- Original Message - >From: "Jim Choate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 6:18 PM >Subject: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers & self defe

RE: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers & self defence

2001-07-25 Thread Sandy Sandfort
gt; Sent: 23 July, 2001 21:12 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers & self > defence > > > On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Matt Beland wrote: > > > A "D based rocket" is no great amount of force. If it was light > enoug

Re: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers & self defence

2001-07-25 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 09:21:59PM -0500, Jim Choate wrote: > NATO says it takes a transfer of approx. 85 Joules to kill. 1. It all depends on where and how it's applied. Give me a scalpel and I suspect I can kill you with far less than 85 Joules. 2. Even if we dismiss point #1 above and assume

A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers & self defence

2001-07-25 Thread Jim Choate
Does throwing a fire extenguisher at a auto window constitution probable cause for lethal force in self-defence? No. Because the fire extenguisher won't go through the safety glass. -- Nature and Nature'

Re: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers & self defence

2001-07-25 Thread Jon Beets
- Original Message - From: "Jim Choate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 6:58 PM Subject: RE: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers & self defence > > On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Sandy Sandfort wrote: > >

Re: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers & self defence

2001-07-25 Thread Petro
At 9:21 PM -0500 7/23/01, Jim Choate wrote: >While it's true the hole would have reduced the cushion impact of breaking >the glass it would not have eliminated it. > >NATO says it takes a transfer of approx. 85 Joules to kill. That's ridiculous. There are far too many variables involved

RE: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers & self defence

2001-07-25 Thread Sandy Sandfort
Not-a-lawyer wrote: > Sorry, no backpedaling here... > I stand behind my previous > statements on this topic. Good idea. If you were to stand in front of it, you'd probably lose the other eye. > We're not talking about > 'self-defence' here... No, we're talking 'self-defense', this is the US,

RE: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers & self defence

2001-07-24 Thread Jim Choate
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Sandy Sandfort wrote: > Oh really? Try that experiment on your own car. Actually I've seen windows break (and broken my fair share) on cars multiple times. Some from wrecks, some from gunshot (a .38 will bounce off a windshield for example) some from other things. I even o

RE: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers & self defence

2001-07-24 Thread Sandy Sandfort
Wannabe lawyer Jimbo wrote: > Does throwing a fire extenguisher > at a auto window constitution [sic] > probable cause for lethal force in > self-defence? > > No. Because the fire extenguisher > won't go through the safety glass. Oh really? Try that experiment on your own car. Side windows sha

RE: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers & self defence

2001-07-24 Thread Petro
At 7:18 PM -0700 7/23/01, Sandy Sandfort wrote: >Not-a-lawyer wrote: > >> No, the cops panicked... > >You really should become a lawyer or even a judge. You seem to already have >figured this one out by ESP or something. Wow, I'm fucking impressed with >your legal acumen. > >> And then there is

Re: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers & self defence

2001-07-24 Thread Jon Beets
- Original Message - From: "Declan McCullagh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jim Choate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 10:39 PM Subject: Re: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers & self defence

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