Re: Internet is dead (Was Re: Celsius 451 -the melting point of Cat-5)

2002-04-03 Thread jamesd
-- > > multimedia and the like). Clearly, ISPs want to keep their > > customers happy, as they know that they will otherwise switch > > to another provider. On 1 Apr 2002 at 15:43, Morlock Elloi wrote: > Nonsense. Following this logic, broadcast/cable TV should be of > high quality since they

Re: Internet is dead (Was Re: Celsius 451 -the melting point of Cat-5)

2002-04-03 Thread Bill Stewart
At 05:51 AM 04/02/2002 -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote: >And Morloch: your replacing DNS (as a vulnerable point of >failure/control) is a good idea. Of course, >AOL does this, with their own name space. But without their tightly >herded masses, or access to the Root Servers >you'll have to writ

Re: Internet is dead (Was Re: Celsius 451 -the melting point of Cat-5)

2002-04-02 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, April 2, 2002, at 11:11 AM, dmolnar wrote: > > > On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Tim May wrote: > >> Imagine N transponders. Coded sequences are broadcast, recipients are >> unknown. (Actually, _everyone_ receives, but only some can decode.) > > Sounds vaguely like the setting for this paper: >

Re: Internet is dead (Was Re: Celsius 451 -the melting point of Cat-5)

2002-04-02 Thread dmolnar
On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Tim May wrote: > Imagine N transponders. Coded sequences are broadcast, recipients are > unknown. (Actually, _everyone_ receives, but only some can decode.) Sounds vaguely like the setting for this paper: Xor-Trees for Efficient Anonymous Multicast and Reception Shlomi Dolev

Re: Internet is dead (Was Re: Celsius 451 -the melting point of Cat-5)

2002-04-02 Thread Tim May
On Monday, April 1, 2002, at 11:05 PM, Brian Lloyd wrote: > At 01:18 AM 4/1/2002, you wrote: >> Ad hoc wireless is neat, but don't assume you're golden just because >> you >> own the infrastructure, and there are no wires to trace. > > Just emitters in free space. Even easier to trace than wir

Re: Internet is dead (Was Re: Celsius 451 -the melting point of Cat-5)

2002-04-02 Thread Roy M. Silvernail
On 2 Apr 2002, at 5:51, Major Variola (ret) wrote: > You could append to Windows (et al) > "hosts" file, and the normal resolver would pick that up. I'm > surprised there are no attempts to do that, but then, there's the > Network (aka FAX) Effect operating here. The thought occurred to me th

Re: Internet is dead (Was Re: Celsius 451 -the melting point of Cat-5)

2002-04-02 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 03:43 PM 4/1/02 -0800, Morlock Elloi wrote: >> multimedia and the like). Clearly, ISPs want to keep their customers >> happy, as they know that they will otherwise switch to another provider. > >Nonsense. Following this logic, broadcast/cable TV should be of high quality >since they also want t

Re: Internet is dead (Was Re: Celsius 451 -the melting point of Cat-5)

2002-04-01 Thread Brian Lloyd
At 01:18 AM 4/1/2002, you wrote: >Ad hoc wireless is neat, but don't assume you're golden just because you >own the infrastructure, and there are no wires to trace. Just emitters in free space. Even easier to trace than wires. >What 802.11b, >currently the only widely deployed technology is eff

Re: Internet is dead (Was Re: Celsius 451 -the melting point of Cat-5)

2002-04-01 Thread Brian Lloyd
At 02:25 PM 3/31/2002, Morlock Elloi wrote: >Or using principles of some other existing informal schemes - like hobos and >homeless do in urban areas. If you walk close to bridges and places that they >use for shelters, i.e. you peruse their part of the network ... >you will often see elaborate

Re: Internet is dead (Was Re: Celsius 451 -the melting point of Cat-5)

2002-04-01 Thread eugen
On Sun, 31 Mar 2002, Morlock Elloi wrote: > First, access, as in path between two nodes. As long as this is under > centralised control (read chokable) little can be done. Current > schemes seem to rely on last decade's capabilities of ISPs, NSPs and > people that control the Switch. Users pay f