RE: Products Liability and Innovation. Was: ...

2001-08-14 Thread Trei, Peter
It's been interesting seeing the back and forth on this, especially since I kicked off this subthread. I've found the anti-liability arguments quite persuasive. Peter Trei

RE: Products Liability and Innovation. Was: ...

2001-08-14 Thread Trei, Peter
It's been interesting seeing the back and forth on this, especially since I kicked off this subthread. I've found the anti-liability arguments quite persuasive. Peter Trei

Re: Products Liability and Innovation. Was: ...

2001-08-13 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 01:14:10PM -0400, Trei, Peter wrote: > other groups which can apply pressure than lawyers, courts and Men > with Guns. Auditors and insurance companies come to mind. Schneier > has noted how improvements in safe (as in a secure metal box) > technology was driven not by lo

Re: Products Liability and Innovation. Was: ...

2001-08-13 Thread Black Unicorn
- Original Message - From: "Trei, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Eugene Leitl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Black Unicorn'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 10:14 AM Subject: RE: Prod

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2001-08-13 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Black Unicorn wrote: >Do I think that software should have products liability attached to it? No. >Do I think strict liability stifles innovation? No. I would actually like to make a smaller point here. Broadly I agree with BU, but I'd like to analyze it a little. If

Re: Products Liability and Innovation. Was: ...

2001-08-13 Thread Tim May
On Monday, August 13, 2001, at 10:14 AM, Trei, Peter wrote: > [I hate to post something that makes it look as if I'm doing further > BU bashing (which is not my intention), but:...] > > When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. There are > other groups which can apply pressure

RE: Products Liability and Innovation. Was: ...

2001-08-13 Thread Trei, Peter
> Black Unicorn[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > From: "Eugene Leitl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Trei, Peter wrote: > > > > > I hate to say this, but until software developers are held (at least > > > at the corporate level) in some way liable for their failures, there > > > will

RE: Products Liability and Innovation. Was: ...

2001-08-13 Thread Trei, Peter
> Black Unicorn[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > From: "Eugene Leitl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Trei, Peter wrote: > > > > > I hate to say this, but until software developers are held (at least > > > at the corporate level) in some way liable for their failures, there > > > will