Re: Microsoft: A Day Of Satisfaction As Corporate Bully

2000-04-12 Thread Petro
>On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Petro wrote: > >> Choate wrote: > >> The only relevant question is whether they used force--in >> this case the force of government to do this. In this case the answer >> is "sometimes". > >At what point did MS threaten the force of government? They certainly >threatened

Re: Microsoft: A Day Of Satisfaction As Corporate Bully

2000-04-09 Thread Reese
At 07:09 PM 08/04/00 -0400, Petro wrote: >Reeses Peices: Sticks & stones - ah hell, Fuck You anyhow. >>Try saying something good about Reagan, I wanna see if you can. > > He had good hair for a man his age. The question wasn't directed at you. Since you've entered the forum, say somethin

Re: Microsoft: A Day Of Satisfaction As Corporate Bully

2000-04-08 Thread Petro
Reeses Peices: >Try saying something good about Reagan, I wanna see if you can. He had good hair for a man his age. -- A quote from Petro's Archives: ** If the courts started interpreting the Second Amendment the way they interpret the First

Re: Microsoft: A Day Of Satisfaction As Corporate Bully

2000-04-08 Thread Petro
Burnes wrote: >BTW: For 100 points name the three types of monopolies that can exist? >Why can only one of them exist without govenment support? Why can >only one of them exist temporarily? Well, let's see if I can get this right, keeping in mind that even though I'm a college graduate,

Re: Microsoft: A Day Of Satisfaction As Corporate Bully

2000-04-08 Thread Petro
Choate wrote: >On Wed, 5 Apr 2000, Tim May wrote: > >> At 3:28 AM -0400 4/5/00, Tom Vogt wrote: >> >Lucky Green wrote: >> >> >> >> I'd say that Phill is summing up the facts rather nicely. To all those >> >> celebrating the "victory" of the largest Borg known to man >>(the USG) over >> >> Micr

RE: Microsoft: A Day Of Satisfaction As Corporate Bully

2000-04-08 Thread Petro
>I'd say that Phill is summing up the facts rather nicely. To all those >celebrating the "victory" of the largest Borg known to man (the USG) over >Microsoft: if they can outlaw Windows, they can outlaw Linux. Anyway, at its I found this http://www.2ndlawlib.org/journals/okslip.html toda

Re: Microsoft: A Day Of Satisfaction As Corporate Bully

2000-04-07 Thread David Honig
At 09:58 AM 4/6/00 -0400, Tom Vogt wrote: >both nazis and socialists to go GREAT lengths to not be associated with >each other. So do the republicans and democrats here. Some aren't fooled.

Re: Microsoft: A Day Of Satisfaction As Corporate Bully

2000-04-07 Thread Reese
At 10:24 AM 07/04/00 +0200, Tom Vogt wrote: >Reese wrote: >> >that's the point: last year. >> >> No, the point is that whatever monopoly M$ might have tried to bring to >> fruition, if they even did, is crumbling by simple virtue of the market >> economy moving in a direction M$ can't go. > >may

Re: Microsoft: A Day Of Satisfaction As Corporate Bully

2000-04-07 Thread Tom Vogt
Reese wrote: > >that's the point: last year. > > No, the point is that whatever monopoly M$ might have tried to bring to > fruition, if they even did, is crumbling by simple virtue of the market > economy moving in a direction M$ can't go. may I remind you that "last year" means: the year the la

Re: Microsoft: A Day Of Satisfaction As Corporate Bully

2000-04-07 Thread Tom Vogt
Marcel Popescu wrote: > I'm sure others will point out, but I fail to see the contradiction. You > might be a nazi, and nazis are a subset of socialists. [And you definitely > expose socialist ideas.] as I said before, it's even more interesting to see most political views cram all OTHER views in

Re: Microsoft: A Day Of Satisfaction As Corporate Bully

2000-04-06 Thread Reese
At 11:46 AM 06/04/00 +0200, Tom Vogt wrote: >Reese wrote: >> >get real. while there are no guns involved, and thus the word "force" >> >might be debatable, the amount of choice available to a) end-users and >> >b) resellers is far from what it would be in a theoretical free market. >> > >> >> Del

Re: Re: Microsoft: A Day Of Satisfaction As Corporate Bully

2000-04-06 Thread Marcel Popescu
X-Loop: openpgp.net From: David Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > An interesting aside to this: If the average person isn't a little > mentally deficient in this regard, how are the sales of books like > "Word for Dummies" (or "Linux for Dummies" for that matter) and > "Windows 98 for Dummies" expla

Re: Microsoft: A Day Of Satisfaction As Corporate Bully

2000-04-06 Thread Marcel Popescu
X-Loop: openpgp.net From: Tom Vogt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > it's been amusing to follow these personal attacks. a few years ago, > I've been branded as a nazi, now I'm a socialist - all by people I've > never met and who haven't read anything by me but a couple mails. funny. I'm sure others will po

Re: Microsoft: A Day Of Satisfaction As Corporate Bully

2000-04-05 Thread Jim Burnes
David Honig wrote: > > At 09:57 AM 4/5/00 -0400, ... wrote: > >Truth is, *NIX is too powerful - they fear the command prompt. > > Bull. They rightly loathe a user interface memorable only > if you use it constantly. Which relies on recall, not > recognition. And recall of cryptic spells, no l

Re: Microsoft: A Day Of Satisfaction As Corporate Bully

2000-04-05 Thread Steve Schear
At 09:36 AM 4/5/00 -0400, David Honig wrote: >At 07:50 AM 4/5/00 -0400, Jim Choate wrote: >How can you eliminate something that others like, without >using force? Administer testing in elementary schools and >re-educate the Torvolds and Stallmen? much deleted >Anti-trust laws are unconstitution

Re: Microsoft: A Day Of Satisfaction As Corporate Bully

2000-04-05 Thread Steve Schear
At 09:36 AM 4/5/00 -0400, David Honig wrote: >At 05:52 AM 4/5/00 -0400, Tom Vogt wrote: > > >get real. while there are no guns involved, and thus the word "force" > >might be debatable, the amount of choice available to a) end-users and > >b) resellers is far from what it would be in a theoretical

Re: Microsoft: A Day Of Satisfaction As Corporate Bully

2000-04-05 Thread Tom Vogt
David Honig wrote: > >get real. while there are no guns involved, and thus the word "force" > >might be debatable, the amount of choice available to a) end-users and > >b) resellers is far from what it would be in a theoretical free market. > > News flash: the universe doesn't owe you the number

Re: Microsoft: A Day Of Satisfaction As Corporate Bully

2000-04-05 Thread Tom Vogt
David Honig wrote: > Anti-trust laws are unconstitutional seizures of property > by the state. Intervention where there is noone wronged --just > a bunch of whiny CEO losers. And a socialist national mentality that loves > to drag down the successful. you're definitely on the wrong track there

Re: Microsoft: A Day Of Satisfaction As Corporate Bully

2000-04-05 Thread David Honig
At 07:50 AM 4/5/00 -0400, Jim Choate wrote: >Microsoft for years has done everything they can do eliminate or delay >competition. So who doesn't? Eat or be eaten. Responsibility is to investors. >The sole intent is to reduce the actual number of options >available to the consumer. The sole

Re: Microsoft: A Day Of Satisfaction As Corporate Bully

2000-04-05 Thread David Honig
At 05:52 AM 4/5/00 -0400, Tom Vogt wrote: >get real. while there are no guns involved, and thus the word "force" >might be debatable, the amount of choice available to a) end-users and >b) resellers is far from what it would be in a theoretical free market. News flash: the universe doesn't owe y

Re: Microsoft: A Day Of Satisfaction As Corporate Bully

2000-04-05 Thread Tom Vogt
Tim May wrote: > It isn't forced on everyone. I don't have or use Windows. (At least > not since the execrable 1.0). > > Get your facts straight. get real. while there are no guns involved, and thus the word "force" might be debatable, the amount of choice available to a) end-users and b) resell

Re: Microsoft: A Day Of Satisfaction As Corporate Bully

2000-04-05 Thread Tim May
At 3:28 AM -0400 4/5/00, Tom Vogt wrote: >Lucky Green wrote: >> >> I'd say that Phill is summing up the facts rather nicely. To all those >> celebrating the "victory" of the largest Borg known to man (the USG) over >> Microsoft: if they can outlaw Windows, they can outlaw Linux. > >sorry if I m

Re: Microsoft: A Day Of Satisfaction As Corporate Bully GetsComeuppance

2000-04-05 Thread Tom Vogt
Lucky Green wrote: > > I'd say that Phill is summing up the facts rather nicely. To all those > celebrating the "victory" of the largest Borg known to man (the USG) over > Microsoft: if they can outlaw Windows, they can outlaw Linux. sorry if I missed anything, but who exactly wants to outlaw w

RE: Microsoft: A Day Of Satisfaction As Corporate Bully GetsComeuppance

2000-04-04 Thread Lucky Green
05, 2000 00:58 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Microsoft: A Day Of Satisfaction As Corporate Bully > GetsComeuppance > > > > > GUILTY. > > > A federal judge appointed by Ronald Reagan, the most pro-business and > > anti-antitrust president in r