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The camel's nose is already in the tent.
With the Dmitri Sklyarov case, and the DeCSS case, we already have
bit crimes, where possession of certain software capabilities is
an illegal act.
Of course, each software capability that is criminalized requires
other software capabilities to
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> extremist consumer activists are hurting their cause by
> conjuring up farfetched scenarios that expose them as kooks.
> (That last point certainly applies to those here who continue to
> predict that the government will take away general purpose
> computing capabilities, allow onl
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> http://news.com.com/2100-1023-944640.html?tag=politech
>
> RIAA talks tough on Web radio copying By Declan McCullagh
> July 17, 2002, 4:50 PM PT
>
> WASHINGTON--The Recording Industry Association of America
> said Wednesday that it has begun pressing for anti-copyi
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On 11 Jul 2002 at 1:22, Lucky Green wrote:
> "Trusted roots" have long been bought and sold on the secondary
> market as any other commodity. For surprisingly low amounts, you
> too can own a trusted root that comes pre-installed in >95% of
> all web browsers deployed.
How much, typically
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On 6 Jul 2002 at 9:33, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
> Thawte has now announced a round of major price increases. New
> cert prices appear to have almost doubled, and renewals have
> increased more than 50%. While Thawte proclaims this is their
> first price increase in five years, this comes at a
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On 9 Jul 2002 at 1:01, Anonymous wrote:
> If DRM hardware and software are widely available, they reason,
> it will be that much easier to get legislation passed to make
> them mandatory. []
>
> This argument makes superficial sense, but it ultimately
> contradicts itself on one majo
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Obviously, the end of copyright may well mean a substantial
reduction in the proceeds from big movies, but it will hardly mean
a total end to those proceeds (the powerpuff girl movie is one big
toy advertisment)
How big an effect will a reduction in money mean?
If you go back thirty years
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On 8 Jul 2002 at 7:43, Anonymous wrote:
> The death of democracy is at hand.
>
> http://www.zmag.org/meastwatch/hertz.htm
If only it were true.
--digsig
James A. Donald
6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG
ZWTx0h+Wns4sOe0bvQDCC5yxL/l1ayPHLSFxALlf
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On 8 Jul 2002 at 11:25, Trei, Peter wrote:
> Some forms of creation require little in the way of up-front
> investment. Others do. Consider movies. While some of the people
> involved get to do creative work that they love, many don't, and
> they all have to make a living somehow. Would t
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On 7 Jul 2002 at 0:42, Gary Jeffers wrote:
> I suspect the the US solution would be hardware. All new
> hardware would be maliced and old hardware would become
> obsolete.
The plan, as envisaged by our enemies, is that first almost
everyone will voluntarily run a "trusted" operating
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On 4 Jul 2002 at 7:38, Anonymous wrote:
> Okay, you are afraid that only "properly authorized" code will
> run. Let's talk about one area: programming languages.
>
> What about compilers? Development systems? No doubt you'll
> claim these will be restricted. They'll be like assault
> wea
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James A. Donald:
> > Again, If you offered the average guy the deal "Would you like
> > on demand access to all movies and television shows ever made,
> > even if it meant fewer and lower budget movie releases in
> > future?", I think most people would go for on demand access to
> > eve
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On 4 Jul 2002 at 1:26, Sampo Syreeni wrote:
> But try constructing an Independence Day without Will Smith. Or
> the special effects. Or the soundtrack. Or the distribution
> chain. Try guaranteeing that it arrives on schedule without
> making a loss. I think you will not be able to accompli
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On 3 Jul 2002 at 2:36, Anonymous wrote:
> However doing a straight devaluation was politically
> unacceptable at the time. Because the dollar was pegged to
> gold, devaluing the dollar meant in effect increasing the value
> of gold in terms of dollars. This would represent a tremendous
> w
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On 1 Jul 2002 at 15:06, Tim May wrote:
> I have strong views on all this DRM and TCPA stuff, and
> especially on the claim that some form of DRM is needed to
> prevent government from taking over control of the "arts."
>
> But we said everything that needed to be said _years_ ago. No
> p
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On 1 Jul 2002 at 22:10, Anonymous wrote:
> The fact is that the market can't solve this kind of problem.
> That's right, markets are not perfect. [] But information
> objects, absent successful DRM restrictions, are effectively
> public goods. Markets do not handle public goods well.
On 27 May 2002 at 19:56, Peter Gutmann wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> >My impression is that S/MIME sucks big ones, because it commits one
> >to a certificate system based on verisign or equivalent.
>
> I'll say this one more time, slowly for those at the back: What you're
> criticising
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> > noticed that a good majority of the P2P efforts introduced at
> > CODECON all included support for encryption as part of the
> > protocol. The various
On 26 May 2002 at 19:24, Morlock Elloi wrote:
> I predict that first attempt to apply this on the
> gnutella/morpheus/kazaa/napster s
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Having been the verisign guy at a couple of companies, it appears
to me that the administrative costs of both models are
unacceptably high.
The hierarchical verisign model is useful when one wishes to
verify that something comes from a famous and well known name --
that this software reall
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On 23 May 2002 at 10:57, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote:
> 3. The people who might use it if it is easy.
>
> This is Joe Sixpack. This is who you are worrying about, wanting
> S/MIME to deliver on its promises. This is Templeton is worrying
> about, wanting opportunistic mail encryption.
Joe sixp
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On 23 May 2002 at 21:58, Adam Back wrote:
> This won't achieve the desired effect because it will just
> destroy the S/MIME trust mechanism. S/MIME is based on the
> assumption that all CAs are trustworthy. Anyone can forge any
> identity for clients with that key installed. S/MIME isn't
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On 23 May 2002 at 0:24, Lucky Green wrote:
> Tell me about it. PGP, GPG, and all its variants need to die
> before S/MIME will be able to break into the Open Source
> community, thus removing the last, but persistent, block to an
> instant increase in number of potential users of secure ema
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On 21 May 2002 at 15:03, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote:
> NAI is now taking steps to remove the remaining copies of PGP
> from the Internet, not long after announcing that the company
> will not release its fully completed Mac OS X and Windows XP
> versions?
Not a problem -- we have too many commu
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Richard Fiero:
> > > As the article excerpted below states, in 2001 there was
> > > about $620 billion dollars in US currency out there
> > > somewhere and 65% was in $100 dollar bills.
James A. Donald:
> > Presumably most of those $100 bills are changing hands in
> > suitcases and brow
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On 14 May 2002 at 21:00, Adam Back wrote:
> I've also moved more than 2,000 GBP that between bank accounts
> and investment accounts in the past -- withdraw from current
> account 10,000 GBP, walk across the street and pay into another
> institutions investment account and the money is i
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James A. Donald:
> > Seems to me that most of our economy is arguably illegal.
R. A. Hettinga
> Fine. Document that, pease. Show me statistics.
Obviously that is a claim that cannot be directly documented,
since most people decline to register their business with the
department of census
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On 13 May 2002 at 22:34, Richard Fiero wrote:
> As the article excerpted below states, in 2001 there was about
> $620 billion dollars in US currency out there somewhere and 65%
> was in $100 dollar bills.
Presumably most of those $100 bills are changing hands in
suitcases and brown paper
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On 13 May 2002 at 18:27, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
> And, thus, nobody will ever use the stuff. The market for
> criminal behavior is trivial. Puny. Nonexistent, and getting
> smaller all the time, no matter what political crises we face,
> or, paradoxically, how much our nation-states write mo
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On 13 May 2002 at 13:20, Morlock Elloi wrote:
> Classic cypherpunk pipe dream is a dot-com syndrome - very low
> cost software/devices - billions will use it - we'll (get rich &
> laid | save the world).
>
> The only other feature of untraceable money which may get larger
> market attentio
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James A. Donald:
> > Another interesting application is controlled traceability --
> > Andy wants to be able to prove he paid Betty, but he does not
> > want third parties to be able to prove he paid Betty.
Morlock Elloi wrote:
> Mental constructs like this one, complicated schemes that
>
--
> > People don't actually have to understand it as long as they
> > get paid, of course. People who are getting paid want to get
> > paid as cheaply as possible, ceterus parabus, and so any
> > payment mechanism's
On 12 May 2002 at 1:31, Morlock Elloi wrote:
> At which point do you fail t
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On 11 May 2002 at 18:55, Morlock Elloi wrote:
> Also let's not forget that person A givin person B cash is
> zero-cost untraceable transaction.
Sometimes, for example internet pornography, it is hard for Andy
to give Betty cash.
Another interesting application is controlled traceability -
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On 11 May 2002 at 9:30, anonimo arancio wrote:
> This is so fucking boring. No one gets laid any more for doing
> FC.
>
> Who cares for Yet Another Implementation of Something That No
> One Will Ever Use ?
>
> We have credit cards. Nothing will ever replace them, in spite
> of 2% transactio
On 28 Apr 2002 at 16:20, Morlock Elloi wrote:
> > How exactly does the introduction of IPV6 on a machine that is
> > NAT-ted by the ISP who doesn't give shit about IPV6 help the
> > situation ?
James A. Donald:
> To connect to the IPV6 world from inside a NAT network, you need a
> machine that is
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On 28 Apr 2002 at 16:20, Morlock Elloi wrote:
> How exactly does the introduction of IPV6 on a machine that is
> NAT-ted by the ISP who doesn't give shit about IPV6 help the
> situation ?
To connect to the IPV6 world from inside a NAT network, you need a
machine that is both inside and out
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On 28 Apr 2002 at 22:26, Jan Dobrucki wrote:
> and third, Americans say, "respect human rights", when the US
> hasn't signed any conventions protecting human rights, because
> if it did, it would have to stop sending people to death row.
Yet oddly, the people drawing up these conventions w
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At 12:15 PM -0700 on 4/27/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > People who think like economists or libertarians will conclude
> > that markets tend to stability, because humans will analyze
> > fluctuations, attempt to predict them, and then take
> > precautionary action to protect themselves
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On 18 Feb 2002 at 14:37, Sampo Syreeni wrote:
> we still need one of the machines to be outside a firewall. I
> think what anonymous is describing is the situation when each
> and every non-corporate customer is behind a firewall owned by
> an ISP, corporations shield their employees behin
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On 25 Apr 2002 at 18:26, Ken Brown wrote:
> This kind of thing has implications for economics & technology &
> markets of course (cf Santa Fe, ad infinitum). People who think
> like ecologists tend to assume that a more complex market, with
> more participants, and more kinds of interacti
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Jim Choate wrote:
> > > If you can't develop a RNG in software (ie you'd be in a
> > > state of sin), what makes you think you can do it using
> > > -only- digital gates in hardware? You can't.
James A. Donald:
> > Classic Choatian physics.
> >
> > Of course you can.
Jim Choate:
> Not if
--
Joseph Ashwood
> > > Because with a pRNG we can sometimes prove very important
> > > things, while with a RNG we can prove very little (we can't
> > > even prove that entropy actually exists, let alone that we
> > > can collect it).
James A. Donald:
> > Don't be silly. Of course we kno
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On 4 Apr 2002 at 14:55, John Young wrote:
> "The current-issue 62gr 5.56mm (223) round, especially when
> fired from the short-barreled, M-4 carbine, is proving itself
> (once again) to be woefully inadequate as man stopper.
> Engagements at all ranges are requiring multiple, solid h
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> > multimedia and the like). Clearly, ISPs want to keep their
> > customers happy, as they know that they will otherwise switch
> > to another provider.
On 1 Apr 2002 at 15:43, Morlock Elloi wrote:
> Nonsense. Following this logic, broadcast/cable TV should be of
> high quality since they
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On 1 Apr 2002 at 8:49, Curt Smith wrote:
> And James, although the best standard may win, a lack of viable
> alternatives is unhealthy.
We have an oversupply, not an undersupply, of viable alternatives.
The reason for all the collisions and incompatibilities is feature
creep, and the reas
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On 31 Mar 2002 at 10:03, Tim May wrote:
> And so now PGP (or GPG) use is utterly balkanized, utterly
> useless.
>
> [...]
>
> Is there a solution? I would think that a "keep it simple,
> stupid" strategy is needed: Forget the hooks into popular
> mailers (Eudora, Outlook, Entourage), forget
Tim May:
> > > This episode, and the likely fizzling of the silly "E-Gold"
> > > scheme, is a useful object lesson.
Someone:
> > e-gold is working fine, though there seem to be a huge number
> > of ponzi schemes seeking e-gold.
> >
> > The fundamental pseudonymization mechanism of e-gold is tha
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On 23 Mar 2002 at 9:26, Anonymous wrote:
> Not all of these are still going but it shows that there is a
> lot more in the P2P file sharing and publishing world than just
> a few moldering old cypherpunk projects from the 90s. P2P has
> really passed the cypherpunk world by.
>
> As far
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On 19 Mar 2002 at 9:21, Sunder wrote:
> So why do you [Jim Choate] run a CDR node? If you're claiming
> that the ideals that Erich Hughes and Tim May forged are "CACL
> theories" and you disagree with them, then why run a such a
> mailing list node?
Back in the big period of revolutions,
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On 15 Mar 2002, at 15:13, Trei, Peter wrote:
> mattd has actually improved slightly as well - some of his
> messages are actually on-topic, and reference other's
> postings appropriately.
This inspired me to glance through my shit folder, into which
I filter spam, the deranged, etc. Yes.
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> > this means that with the proposed 29 bits, it would take
> > about 1.5 hours on the celeron 333, and more than one day
> > on the 486.
On 9 Mar 2002, at 14:29, Adam Back wrote:
> So this is indeed a problem.
>
> The other proposal I saw recently here was adapative
> charging -- charge
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On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 02:04:16AM -, Frog3 wrote:
> The cost [To factor RSA 1024] is the need to build a
> machine that can do 53 billion simultaneous, independent
> ECM factorizations for smoothness testing. It's not clear
> how amenable this would be to hardware implementation.
>
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On 23 Feb 2002, at 12:33, Declan McCullagh wrote:
> This is the last mattd post I'll see for a while, I expect,
> since I've updated my kill.rc file. But the prospect of a
> cypherpunks subscriber threatening to send 2 MB attachments
> to the list is not a pleasant one.
I like my enemie
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On 21 Feb 2002, at 1:03, F. Marc de Piolenc wrote:
> She could be referring to the Japanese takeover of French
> Indochina. The Axis powers met fierce, though poorly
> organized, resistance in their invasion of France. It was
> no cakewalk.
It was a cakewalk. The french bent over, asked
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On 13 Feb 2002, at 12:23, Aimee Farr wrote:
> "The tree of liberty must be watered periodically with the
> blood of tyrants."
>
> It's sad, but I have come to hate that quote, because
> contemporary history paints a much different picture: it is
> no tree of liberty, and it damn sure isn
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On 13 Feb 2002, at 12:16, Aimee Farr wrote:
> Jim Bell was arrested for stalking "protected persons." Not
> even our military is exposed to the sort of personalized
> fear and exposure that public servants and their families
> experience today.'
Perhaps that is because the military do n
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On 7 Feb 2002, at 1:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Jim, I believe Peter's point, and mine as well, is that
> posters such as Jei and mattd differ by their intent. Jei
> is obviously a participant, and an active one. Whether or
> not anyone cares to listen, he's "legit" in that he is
> act
--
Jei, quoting an old but still too true document
> > An additional grave concern is key management. Contrary
> > to some beliefs,key management is not a solved problem.
> > All of the proposals contain some mechanism for key
> > management, but none of them have been demonstrated to be
> >
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James A. Donald:
> > > it is regrettable that disk encryption is not part of
> > > the operating system -- but if Microsoft put it in
> > > before we had a strong, widely adopted system, they
> > > would doubtless muck it up.
Dr Evil
> Microsoft does support encrypted disks.
So they do:
h
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On 3 Feb 2002, Dr. Evil wrote:
> > Microsoft does support encrypted disks. They do in
> > Windows XP and I think they may have had it earlier too.
> > Who doesn't support encrypted disk? The open source
> > guys. There is only _one_ open source OS that currently
> > supports encrypted di
--
A lot of doom and gloom posts have appeared about how
cypherpunks failed of their dreams.
We expected to overthrow governments world wide by tuesday,
and we did not. But despite this the cypherpunk agenda is
still progressing well.
We do have universal strong communications encryption, i
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On 29 Jan 2002, at 19:01, Jei wrote:
> Enron May Spark Revolt of
> Professionals
>
> By James K. Galbraith
>
> James K. Galbraith, a professor at the University of Texas
> at Austin, is the author, most recently, of "Inequality and
> Industrial Cha
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On 23 Jan 2002, at 8:40, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> It's been said that the defining test of a payment system
> is how it behaves when things go wrong.
>
> A dispute arises over an ecash payment. Alice says Bob
> sent her ecash but when she tried to exchange it she
> learned that it had alread
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On 20 Jan 2002, at 13:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> "Effective revolutionaries need intelligence, organization
> and discipline to conduct effective propaganda, plan
> sucessful insurrections, and sieze and hold power."
Anarcho capitalists do not plan to seize and hold power.
Intelligenc
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On 20 Jan 2002, at 1:53, Aimee Farr wrote:
> Somebody wrote:
>
> > I, in particular (and many other Cpunk Movement members)
> > do not consider People That Control Armed Men to be "us"
> > and will not identify
> their snitching
> > capabilities with my well-being.
>
> So "Cypherpunks" is
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On 11 Jan 2002, at 19:26, Eric Cordian wrote:
> This is not simply a case of reporting something, and then
> tossing the burden of proof on the opposition to prove it
> wasn't said. This is a case of something pretty widely
> disseminated on the Net, to which not a single official
> voice
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On 11 Jan 2002, at 11:45, Eric Cordian wrote:
> Not quite. 11 Israeli athletes were captured by some
> Palestinians. They were killed when the Israeli military
> attacked the site where they were being held, and
> slaughtered everything that moved.
>
> It is and always has been the
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On 10 Jan 2002, at 23:46, david wrote:
> Any jurisdiction that will prosecute and
> convict someone because the body of a person attempting
> burglary happens to be on the outside instead of the inside
> will certainly prosecute and get a conviction for tampering
> with the evidence. T
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On Monday, January 7, 2002, at 04:11 PM, Tim May wrote:
> > I think it is a moral necessity to kill anyone trying to
> > steal anything (beyond the utterly trivial or confusable,
> > e.g., one should not kill someone picking up a toy left
> > out in the yard...might be a mistake, he might b
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On 31 Dec 2001, at 0:49, mattd wrote:
> CommieRot! (english) by James 8:00pm Mon Sep 3 '01
> Anarchists killed more people in Spain than pinochet in
> Chile.See...http://www.jim.com/world.html Post cut. Yeah,
> but... (english) by Superguy 10:50pm Mon Sep 3 '01
> ...anarchists only kill
s of ordinary Russians. The original
> > point of dispute between Stalin and Trotsky was that
> > Trotsky though Stalin was too soft on the kulaks.
mattd:
> Spain,jamesd,I thought we were talking about SPAIN! I know
> a bit about Trotsky's russian background,the betrayal of
&
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James A. Donald:
> > One could of course have a pile of gold, and physically
> > and in person exchange coins for physical gold
On 25 Dec 2001, at 9:44, Tim May wrote:
> 1. Must money be tied to intrinsic stores of value? I think
> the answer is clearly "No." The U.S. dollar is not in any
On 24 Dec 2001, at 9:40, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> How simple can an ecash mint be?
>
> For the simplest case there should be no accounts. All the mint does is
> exchange coins for other coins. There are no customer lists, no records
> of transactions (except as needed for double-spending detection
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mattd:
> > > Gaston Leval,Bookchin,Paz,Chomsky and even H.Thomas.
James A. Donald:
> > Commie liars, except for Thomas, who does not say what
> > you claim he does.
mattd:
> Ahwell! Still if you want to lump stalinists,trots and
> anarchs together
The difference between Stalinists and T
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On 23 Dec 2001, at 21:39, Black Unicorn wrote:
> While this might not directly impact the person running or
> developing the system it certain serves to discourage users
> of the system after a single allegation has been made.
> Customer flight would be awfully dramatic I suspect.
You are
James A. Donald:
> > they mostly found themselves using the old familiar methods of
recently existent
socialism, and when they did not use those methods, socialism
did not work. That
> > is the important truth about Catalonia,
mattd:
> Libertarian socialism did work,see Gaston
Leval,Bookchin,
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On Sunday, December 23, 2001, at 01:29 AM, Bill Stewart
wrote:
> > But the easy part of doing digital cash is the software,
> > and it doesn't take years of Stallman-level or
> > Chaum-level or Ian-or-Ben-or-Lucky-level wizardry to
> > produce it, though it's really helpful to have their
>
--
James A. Donald:
> >Yet you cite (as evidence that I am a liar) Ian McKay's
> >article on the Catalonian anarchists, in which he concedes
> > that the anarchists wound up creating what most people
> > would call a state, indeed a terrorist dictatorship, but
> > argues that I am lying in tha
; implementing.)
mattd
> That is a filthy lie.Last week I urged cypherpunks to
> compare and contrast the noam chomsky article,"Objectivity
> and liberal scholarship."with the material jamesd has on
> display at his website.
You cite Chomsky as evidence for the truthfullnes
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On 20 Dec 2001, at 21:00, Steve Schear wrote:
> We should all be ashamed. The main reason we don't have
> the private payment system many have discussed is
> lazyness/"better things to do with their time" by those
> with the technical ability to create the SW (if I were one
> of them t
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On Wed, 19 Dec 2001, Len Sassaman wrote:
>
> > The user would purchase remailer tokens (digital cash) from a
token vendor
> > (the bank). This is an exchange similar to car wash tokens or
> > TicketMaster[tm], where the seller receives "real cash" and the
buyer
> > receives a tangible pro
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On 21 Dec 2001, at 11:13, mattd wrote:
> Yes! Lets have a libertarian-versus-anarchist debate
We cannot have such a debate on this list because almost all
the libertarians here are anarchists.
(Except, of course, by your peculiar use of the word
"anarchist", whereby an anarchist is some w
--
On 17 Dec 2001, at 21:01, Jim Choate wrote:
>
> On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Trei, Peter wrote:
>
> > Typical Choate, missing the point.
>
> Merry Christmas to you too.
>
> > A remailer simply gets sent a message,
> > applies it's decryption key,
>
> The same key it shares with everyone else (all
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On 17 Dec 2001, at 14:46, A. Melon wrote:
> http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,49141,00.html
>
> Incredible. Abso-fucking-lutely incredible. After telling
> us all about the poor little child pornographer, Larry
> Benedict, and how the mean old police are out to get him,
> Declan f
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James A. Donald:
> > Someone who is too blind to recognize evil when it heaves
> > a rock at his head needs some more rocks in the face to
> > improve his vision. [...] a short while ago, the
> > Taliban was slaughtering various minority groups,
> > throwing their bodies into wells to pois
--
On 13 Dec 2001, at 7:04, !Dr. Joe Baptista wrote:
> > > Once again I am seeing eyewitness reports claiming more
> > > U.S. Casualties. Yet I don't see simular reports in
> > > the U.S. Press confirming or denying these claims.
James A. Donald:
> > The dogs bark but the caravan moves on.
--
> > If no one has already done this, the humor value in
> > publishing a public key under names like OBL would
> > certainly collect some interesting > messages.
On 16 Dec 2001, at 13:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Certainly good for a few chuckles at first, but I wouldn't
> want to be aro
--
On 16 Dec 2001, at 12:58, mattd wrote:
> Fisk is one of those rare beasts,a truthful journalist.
I was filled with rage when I read him piously declare that
he understands why they're angry and doesn't hold it against
them at all. Such saintly piety reminds me of Heng Samrin.
--digsi
--
On 14 Dec 2001, at 19:50, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> Declan McCullagh has been producing a one-sided series
> about a child pornographer's supposedly unjust indictment,
> http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,49132,00.html. Of
> course everything the pornographer says is taken as gospel,
>
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On 13 Dec 2001, at 7:04, !Dr. Joe Baptista wrote:
> Once again I am seeing eyewitness reports claiming more
> U.S. Casualties. Yet I don't see simular reports in the
> U.S. Press confirming or denying these claims.
The dogs bark but the caravan moves on.
In the US, unlike most other cou
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On 12 Dec 2001, at 10:39, Declan McCullagh wrote:
> * Is it appropriate to use the powerful word "censorship"
> to describe what happened when the National Review dropped
> Ann Coulter? Coulter has other outlets that will publish
> her work; she is not muzzled. Like other news organizations
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On 12 Dec 2001, at 1:16, Declan McCullagh wrote:
> Of course there are other considerations in a settlement,
> such as avoiding bad publicity -- even if you think you
> might win a case by arguing you made a mistake but it was
> not malicious.
Just google through the Tailwind debate. The
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On 12 Dec 2001, at 7:11, mattd wrote:
> Quantum mechanics based on heisenbergs uncertainty
> principal is under attack.The two slit experiment has
> another explanation that even revives 'ether'
I am happy to observe that the intellectual level of the
remaining socialists has been sliding
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On 10 Dec 2001, at 16:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> An idea just popped into my head, I was wondering if anyone
> had thought of this before. Most likely someone has, and
> has either proven the idea is impossible or has figured out
> how to do it.
>
> Th idea is, when buying some good o
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On 11 Dec 2001, at 12:20, Declan McCullagh wrote:
> Well, by your standards, any journalist who makes an
> innocent mistake would be a liar.
CNN edited interviews with people so as to make them appear
to admit to war crimes commited against civilians during the
Vietnam war, when the full t
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James A Donald
> > And I have given numerous examples [of Chomsky
> > misrepresenting his sources], to which no one has
> > replied, except as mattd has recently done -- by citing
> > Chomsky as evidence for the truthfulness of Chomsky, much
> > after the fashion of a Christian who ci
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On 10 Dec 2001, at 11:23, Ken Brown wrote:
> About 3 years ago I found out that I could understand some
> of your postings by exchanging the words "socialism" for
> "capitalism" when ever they occurred - you fell for the
> Soviet lie that called their oppressive state capitalism by
>
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On 10 Dec 2001, at 0:00, Jim Choate wrote:
> This is laughable, and a tad repetitive...
>
> You say you've checked [Chomsky's] sources and found them
> lacking.
And I have given numerous examples, to which no one has
replied, except as mattd has recently done -- by citing
Chomsky as eviden
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On 10 Dec 2001, at 16:20, mattd wrote:
> Was it Chomsky who pointed out that the capitalist firm is
> structured like a totalitarian state?
The difference is that you can change firms, or start your
own, without being shot.
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James A. Donald
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James A. Donald:
> > "Chomsky is a long exposed commie liar, and if CNN was
> > not commie enough for him, that is because Stalin was
> > not commie enough for him."
mattd:
> Any discriminating cypherpunk who reads chomskys
> ,'Objectivity and liberal scholarship". and views jamesd's
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On 9 Dec 2001, at 13:01, Marcel Popescu wrote:
> From: "Khoder bin Hakkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > "Views reminiscent of Soviet propaganda" By ARNAUD DE
> > BORCHGRAVE, UPI Editor at Large
> >
> http://kevxml.infospace.com/_1_4JI4TKG04ZR6NFV__info/kevxml
> ?kcfg=upi-article
> &sin=2
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