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Re: Give cheese to france?

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Re: Give cheese to france?

2003-03-07 Thread Anonymous
On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 19:44:44 -0500, you wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 11:20:39AM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: > > First of all, stating one perhaps should have the right to wear whatever > > T-shirt you want in a mall > > The better way to frame the question: May a private property owner > legall

Re: Give cheese to france?

2003-03-07 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 07:44:44PM -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote: > On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 11:20:39AM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: > > First of all, stating one perhaps should have the right to wear whatever > > T-shirt you want in a mall > > The better way to frame the question: May a private pr

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Re: Give cheese to france?

2003-03-07 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 11:20:39AM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: > First of all, stating one perhaps should have the right to wear whatever > T-shirt you want in a mall The better way to frame the question: May a private property owner legally exclude people from it? Seems to me the answer should b

Re: Fw: Drunk driver detector that radios police

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At 02:56 PM 3/7/03 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I'm not crazy about everything that the government does, but there are trade- >offs in a non-perfect society. One of them is monitoring the innocent to, in >turn, attempt to prevent the guilty from trampling over everything, Allah willing. Wrong

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Re: Using time-domain reflectometry to detect tamper attempts on telecom cables

2003-03-07 Thread Dave Emery
On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 02:38:56PM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: > > Undersea, I've heard that NSA uses splices, and that NSA has its own sub > for that purpose. (And the company I used to work for did some work on > undersea NSA optical projects, so I tend to believe the rumors I heard > there.)

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Re: Fw: Drunk driver detector that radios police

2003-03-07 Thread gann
Wow, easy there, chief. I think you have some aggression you may want to let a professional address. Besides that... I'm not crazy about everything that the government does, but there are trade- offs in a non-perfect society. One of them is monitoring the innocent to, in turn, attempt to prevent

Re: Fw: Drunk driver detector that radios police

2003-03-07 Thread gann
Actually, read the article. It covers sober driver and drunk passengers. Quoting Bill Frantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > At 10:52 PM -0800 3/6/03, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >A tiny fuel cell that detects the alcoholic breath of a drink-driver and > calls > >the police has been developed by a team o

Re: Fw: Drunk driver detector that radios police

2003-03-07 Thread gann
I don't guess you read the article. It answers at least your first question. Another option to breathing through a tube might be to not drink alcohol before driving. Wow, you know... deterring people from drinking and driving might be a favorable side effect of this public-monitoring, informatio

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Re: Using time-domain reflectometry to detect tamper attempts on telecom cables

2003-03-07 Thread Tyler Durden
I'm sure I read about a way to do fiber, or that someone had developed a device, that only involved removing a bit of the covering, not cutting into the fiber at all. Yes, there is such a device, and I've used one. The only problem with them is that the amount of attenuation that results fro

Re: Using time-domain reflectometry to detect tamper attempts on telecom cables

2003-03-07 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 11:33:32AM -0500, Sunder wrote: > > Not sure what the NSA would do to tap fibers, certainly tempest wouldn't > work - except if there are repeaters nearby - or if they actually cut into > the fibre to splice it. I'm sure I read about a way to do fiber, or that someone h

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Driven to Distraction.

2003-03-07 Thread professor rat
Seen in a Seattle bookstore and put on my to-read list immediately. When I actually got a chance to read it (I'd been distracted, heh), my hopes were confirmed. Bruce Sterling's Distraction is perhaps the most perfect novel it's possible to write under that name, a marvelous political sleight-of

Nomad netwar machines.

2003-03-07 Thread professor rat
There are few books that fulfill their promise to describe tomorrow. This is one of them. The "texting tribes" ride the same currents as our "post-literate" age, using technology to augment and implement our human need for communication. Rheingold describes a coming new world where one-to-many c

The Internet interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.

2003-03-07 Thread professor rat
World of Ends What the Internet Is and How to Stop Mistaking It for Something Else. by Doc Searls and David Weinberger Last update: 3.6.03 There are mistakes and there are mistakes. Some mistakes we learn from. For example: Thinking that selling toys for pets on the Web is a great way to get rich

Fragmented nets, national borders, ebay, surrealism

2003-03-07 Thread Major Variola (ret)
Over on cryptography @ wasabisystems.com there's a thread about Ebay not showing items to folks whose languages were set to German (ergo they must fnord be ruled by the German State which prohibits showing the citizens in its fnord care various things). The item in question is a 3-rotor Enigma. .

Netwar favors the prepared LEADERLESS mind.

2003-03-07 Thread professor rat
Imperial Washington, like Berlin in the late 1930s, has become a psychedelic capital where one megalomaniacal hallucination succeeds another. Thus, in addition to creating a new geopolitical order in the Middle East, we are now told by the Pentagon's deepest thinkers that the invasion of Iraq will

Re: Using time-domain reflectometry to detect tamper attempts ontelecom cables

2003-03-07 Thread Sunder
1. The NSA doesn't own it's own sub - they used a Navy sub - several infact. I think you're refering to how a US sub snuck into a Russian harbor, looked for and tapped phone lines. This was during the cold war. (It's possible that they own their own subs now.) They found the lines because sign

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2003-03-07 Thread FASTEST Approval
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