Re: CDR: assasinating larry(measl is a bushit artist)

2001-10-20 Thread measl
On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, mattd wrote: > > That was a blast from the not so distant past of one 'measl'...Now > someone > tries to put the fine words into effect > with tools apparently feared and taken seriously by the oppressors and > they > get asked by someone called measl > "did you take your

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RE: Assault Donuts

2001-10-20 Thread Tabla bin Rasa
At 05:41 PM 10/20/01 -0700, Xeni Jardin wrote: >souce url My Norcal culture-informant has forwarded a picture of a sign from a bathroom which reads in red serif: "Due to recent world events, please clean up all body powder before lea

Re: Calendar from Egypt: Image of WTC attack for month of Sept.

2001-10-20 Thread Sunder
Why bother. Just go to www.newsmax.com and you will see the type of stories they have is one or two steps away from also having "Elvis Lives" and "I fucked a girl from Jupiter" stories. It's so yellow, it makes the National Enquirer look bright white. --Kaos-Keraunos-Kybern

Re: Clubbing in Fortress Amerika (fwd)

2001-10-20 Thread keyser-soze
At 09:54 PM 10/20/2001 -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote: Hmm, one of these would be handy. http://www.eltroncards.com/printers/p520.htm Nahh... probably too expensive and difficult to purchase. All you need is an ALPS dye-sub printer. Quality is photo. The 1300/2300 models can be had for about

Re: Zen Terrorism

2001-10-20 Thread Anonymous User
Does the color blue represent the spores contained in this letter? If so, why does blue hate If the sky falls, will it be blue again? - Original Message - From: "Tabla bin Rasa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 3:14 AM Subject: Zen Terrorism

Chinese take-away

2001-10-20 Thread mattd
Your china in OZ writes,(china plate=mate=bud,pal) Not content with selling huge amounts of american flags (made in chinese gulags)China recently tested dong feng missiles capable of dropping nuclear payload on US assets .They reversed engineered cruise missiles too so dont worry if one goes up

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2001-10-20 Thread Jon Beets
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2001-10-20 Thread measl
http://www.xfiles.com/main_flash.html (popup for "fan mail") "Regarding fan letters and other mail to "The X-Files" and Ten Thirteen Productions: Due to the recent security concerns, we will not be opening any paper mail received at our production office from unk

Google Search: defacing driver license

2001-10-20 Thread Jim Choate
http://www.google.com/search?q=defacing+driver+license -- -- The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion. Edmund Burke (1784) The Armadillo G

Re: CDR: Re: Clubbing in Fortress Amerika (fwd)

2001-10-20 Thread measl
On 20 Oct 2001, Dr. Evil wrote: > > Do different states use different formats for the data on the magstrip? I believe they are all using ABA encoding. Of course, I could also be wrong :-) > Do all states even have magstrips? Again, I may be wrong, but IIRC, there is now n active effort to st

Re: Clubbing in Fortress Amerika (fwd)

2001-10-20 Thread Jim Choate
On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, Steve Furlong wrote: > Jim, I'm going to have to call bullshit on that. A few minutes' checking > (google and the revised code pages of a handful of states) shows that > defacing a DL generally seems to be a violation, not even a misdemeanor. Then you didn't look very hard

Intelligent source?

2001-10-20 Thread Jim Choate
On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, Donald J. Coones wrote: > Please point to a strictly natural process that creates infoormation. Sex. Chemistry. > What evidence is there that infoormation, such as that in DNA, could ever assemble >itself? > What about the 4,000 books of coded infoormation that are in a

Re: Clubbing in Fortress Amerika (fwd)

2001-10-20 Thread Steve Furlong
Jim Choate wrote: > > On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, Harmon Seaver wrote: > > > Looks like other states are doing the same thing. So much for > > erasing the mag strip. But I suppose it would be fairly easy to paint > > something over the > > barcode like some plastic disolving solvent, making it unr

Re: Clubbing in Fortress Amerika (fwd)

2001-10-20 Thread Harmon Seaver
Hmm, one of these would be handy. http://www.eltroncards.com/printers/p520.htm -- Harmon Seaver, MLIS CyberShamanix Work 920-203-9633 Home 920-233-5820 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cybershamanix.com/resume.html

assasinating larry(measl is a bushit artist)

2001-10-20 Thread mattd
> My belief is that every Congresscritter who voted to pass this USA Bill > should be tried and executed. Amen. > As for the 600 "Arabic-looking" men (maybe a few women, I don't know) > being held without charges being filed in a timely way, I'll chortle if > even 10 of them become vengeanc

Re: Clubbing in Fortress Amerika (fwd)

2001-10-20 Thread Jim Choate
On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, Harmon Seaver wrote: > Looks like other states are doing the same thing. So much for > erasing the mag strip. But I suppose it would be fairly easy to paint > something over the > barcode like some plastic disolving solvent, making it unreadable. Defacing a state DL is

Re: Clubbing in Fortress Amerika (fwd)

2001-10-20 Thread Harmon Seaver
According to the MI state page, MI has a a "strict" law limiting what the mag stripe and barcode can contain, only the DL #, DOB, and expiration date. http://www.sos.state.mi.us/drlic/sos-365.html -- Harmon Seaver, MLIS CyberShamanix Work 920-203-9633 Home 920-233-5820 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://

Re: Clubbing in Fortress Amerika (fwd)

2001-10-20 Thread Steve Furlong
Harmon Seaver wrote: > > Hmm, seems my DL is already out of date. WI is switching to a new > form of barcode: <<< 2-D barcode >>> > Looks like other states are doing the same thing. So much for > erasing the mag strip. But I suppose it would be fairly easy to paint > something over the

Re: Clubbing in Fortress Amerika (fwd)

2001-10-20 Thread Harmon Seaver
Hmm, seems my DL is already out of date. WI is switching to a new form of barcode: http://www.dot.state.wi.us/dmv/digital.html > License back contains information and new 2-D bar code > > The fee paid for the product is indicated > on the top of the c

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RE: Assault Donuts

2001-10-20 Thread Xeni Jardin
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RE: New kind of FUD :-)

2001-10-20 Thread Sandy Sandfort
Now HERE is where you need that microwave. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer > Sent: 20 October, 2001 13:16 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: New kind of FUD :-) > > > Got this junk mail:

RE: Retribution not enough

2001-10-20 Thread Sandy Sandfort
I don't blaim [sic] the government; I blame the economic system. Free markets are good; any form of collectivism is bad. In mixed economies, the freer the better. QED. No amount of Inchoate hand waving alters that basic economic reality. Sounds like Jimbo is in need of remedial reading, spelli

RE: Assault Donuts

2001-10-20 Thread Xeni Jardin
Tim May wrote: > "WASHINGTON (Routers News Service) Because of false alarms involving the > confectioner's sugar on powdered donuts, sale of so-called "assault > donuts" will henceforth be restricted to law enforcement officers. "Cops > have always been the largest consumers of donuts, this just

Sign of Escalating Threat

2001-10-20 Thread Anonymous sender
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/17/national/17WEAP.html?pagewanted=print Sign of Escalating ThreatBy STEPHEN ENGELBERG and JUDITH MILLERNews AnalysisThe discovery of what government officials say is high-grade anthraxin a letter mailed to Congress is the most worrisome development yetin a series

Zen Terrorism

2001-10-20 Thread Tabla bin Rasa
Zen Terrorism: sending random letters which say, "No anthrax here. Have a nice day."

Re: Retribution not enough

2001-10-20 Thread Jim Choate
On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, David Honig wrote: > \begin{asbestos} > In a centrally-ruled (statist) society some elites decide what *should* > make *others* happy. And forces everyone to pay for it. > Not only doomed in reality, but immoral. > \end{} This isn't 'government' (statist or otherwise), it

Re: Clubbing in Fortress Amerika (fwd)

2001-10-20 Thread Dr. Evil
> You mean the magstripe on your license still carries information? > Give that man a magnet. There's an even simpler alternative: Sure, CA licenses may have this mag strip, but the format is not universal throughout the world, or even the US. Carry your passport, which doesn't have a mag strip

Re: Clubbing in Fortress Amerika (fwd)

2001-10-20 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Oct 20, 2001 at 05:48:44PM -0500, Harmon Seaver ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > "Dr. Evil" wrote: > > > > Do different states use different formats for the data on the magstrip? > > > > Do all states even have magstrips? > > You know, I never even realized until right now that my DL has

Re: CDR: RE: Retribution not enough

2001-10-20 Thread Jim Choate
On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, Sandy Sandfort wrote: > More Inchoate reasoning. Jimbo wrote: > > > The reality is that these sweatshops do > > exist, that they do exploit the workers... > > Gee, I wonder why these workers chose to be exploited instead of taking a > job somewhere else in their benighted

Re: Clubbing in Fortress Amerika (fwd)

2001-10-20 Thread Dr. Evil
> You know, I never even realized until right now that my DL has a mag > strip. This is a new thing for WI, I think. Pretty sure my recent MN didn't > have one. I guess the more interesting thing would be, before wiping it out, > to figure out a way to read it. I'm sure you can buy card rea

Re: Retribution not enough

2001-10-20 Thread Jim Choate
On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, Tim May wrote: > Talking about "low wage sweat shop jobs" indicates profound confusion on > your part. > > Sorry to be so blunt, but this is the way it is. Henry Hazlitt wrote a > good book on basic economics. > > I doubt I can convince you in a few paragraphs, but consi

Re: http://www.cnn.com/2001/HEALTH/conditions/10/20/anthrax/

2001-10-20 Thread David Honig
At 01:44 PM 10/20/01 -0700, Bill Stewart wrote: >At 12:20 AM 10/20/2001 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>"Northwest Airlines has banned sugar substitutes and non-dairy creamers >>from its airplanes to avoid anthrax scares sparked by the white, powdery >>substances." >> >>ROTFLOL! > > >Does that m

Re: Clubbing in Fortress Amerika (fwd)

2001-10-20 Thread Harmon Seaver
"Dr. Evil" wrote: > > Do different states use different formats for the data on the magstrip? > > Do all states even have magstrips? You know, I never even realized until right now that my DL has a mag strip. This is a new thing for WI, I think. Pretty sure my recent MN didn't have one. I

Assault Donuts

2001-10-20 Thread Tim May
On Saturday, October 20, 2001, at 03:09 PM, David Honig wrote: > At 01:44 PM 10/20/01 -0700, Bill Stewart wrote: >> At 12:20 AM 10/20/2001 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> "Northwest Airlines has banned sugar substitutes and non-dairy >>> creamers >>> from its airplanes to avoid anthrax scare

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Re: Retribution not enough

2001-10-20 Thread Tim May
On Saturday, October 20, 2001, at 01:17 PM, Steve Schear wrote: > At 01:42 PM 10/20/2001 -0400, Declan McCullagh wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 19, 2001 at 05:35:53PM -0700, Steve Schear wrote: >> > The direction of all recent administrations has been to expand >> > globalization (i.e., interdependency) t

RE: Retribution not enough

2001-10-20 Thread Sandy Sandfort
More Inchoate reasoning. Jimbo wrote: > The reality is that these sweatshops do > exist, that they do exploit the workers... Gee, I wonder why these workers chose to be exploited instead of taking a job somewhere else in their benighted non-capitalist countries where the opportunities were bett

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2001-10-20 Thread Bill Stewart
-- Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 08:26:25 -0400 From: Sascha Mattke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Risks of bogus e-mail addresses "FROM: ObL" (Wayner, RISKS-21.68) That news is nonsense. I talked with the priest who was cited on vnunet. He said that some Filipino members

Re: Retribution not enough

2001-10-20 Thread David Honig
At 01:17 PM 10/20/01 -0700, Steve Schear wrote: >At 01:42 PM 10/20/2001 -0400, Declan McCullagh wrote: >>On Fri, Oct 19, 2001 at 05:35:53PM -0700, Steve Schear wrote: >> > The direction of all recent administrations has been to expand >> > globalization (i.e., interdependency) thus increasing econ

Re: Clubbing in Fortress Amerika (fwd)

2001-10-20 Thread David Honig
>on Sat, Oct 20, 2001 at 12:56:02PM -0700, Giovanna Imbesi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> Last night my friend and I stopped at a Venice club/bar. At the door >> they were doing the normal ID check, but then took my driver's license >> and swiped it into a little Palm-like device...and all the inf

Re: http://www.cnn.com/2001/HEALTH/conditions/10/20/anthrax/

2001-10-20 Thread Bill Stewart
At 12:20 AM 10/20/2001 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >"Northwest Airlines has banned sugar substitutes and non-dairy creamers >from its airplanes to avoid anthrax scares sparked by the white, powdery >substances." > >ROTFLOL! Does that mean they're switching over to actual milk or cream for co

Re: stupid anthrax q: would microwaving your snail mail help?

2001-10-20 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Oct 20, 2001 at 10:17:31AM -0700, Tim May ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Saturday, October 20, 2001, at 09:13 AM, Declan McCullagh wrote: > > > Dare I say it? Another reason to use just 7-bit ASCII. > > > > I'm not particularly religious on this issue, but for text-based > > discussions l

Clubbing in Fortress Amerika (fwd)

2001-10-20 Thread Karsten M. Self
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Life is a Cabaret, my friends. on Sat, Oct 20, 2001 at 12:56:02PM -0700, Giovanna Imbesi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Last night my friend and I stopped at a Venice club/bar. At the door > they were doing the normal ID check, but then took my driver

Re: Retribution not enough

2001-10-20 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Fri, Oct 19, 2001 at 05:35:53PM -0700, Steve Schear wrote: > The direction of all recent administrations has been to expand > globalization (i.e., interdependency) thus increasing economic risks and > narrowing diplomatic choices. In the short term, and we have no idea what When I speak of

Re: stupid anthrax q: would microwaving your snail mail help?

2001-10-20 Thread Tim May
On Saturday, October 20, 2001, at 09:13 AM, Declan McCullagh wrote: > Dare I say it? Another reason to use just 7-bit ASCII. > > I'm not particularly religious on this issue, but for text-based > discussions like the ones we have here, anything else just doesn't > seem necessary, and can lead to

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Calendar from Egypt: Image of WTC attack for month of Sept.

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Re: Ridge is lying, spores are pro

2001-10-20 Thread Jim Choate
On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, Khoder bin Hakkin wrote: > In Washington, Ridge told reporters the anthrax analyzed in the United > States had not been ``weaponized,'' meaning it had not been manipulated > to > facilitate inhalation by potential victims. And to resist antibiotics. -- __

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RE: Retribution Time

2001-10-20 Thread Sandy Sandfort
Hear, hear. This sort of crap is the inevitable outcome of an unmoderated list. All the loons come out to play because there are no real negative consequences for being a loon. And filtering does not do anything besides bury one's head in the sand. I have an solution... (no, it's not AP). :'D

Re: stupid anthrax q: would microwaving your snail mail help?

2001-10-20 Thread Declan McCullagh
Dare I say it? Another reason to use just 7-bit ASCII. I'm not particularly religious on this issue, but for text-based discussions like the ones we have here, anything else just doesn't seem necessary, and can lead to strange results like what we just saw. -Declan On Fri, Oct 19, 2001 at 04

Re: Retribution Time

2001-10-20 Thread Jon Beets
Ooookay.. The really sad part is you either think your really cool typing this crap or you lack any real social skills... Probably both Jon Beets - Original Message - From: "Nomen Nescio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:30 PM Subject

Re: http://www.cnn.com/2001/HEALTH/conditions/10/20/anthrax/

2001-10-20 Thread David Honig
At 12:20 AM 10/20/01 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >"Northwest Airlines has banned sugar substitutes and non-dairy creamers >from its airplanes to avoid anthrax scares sparked by the white, powdery >substances." > >ROTFLOL! Yes but you can still bring your own onboard, though "its not recommen

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