n of the C3. (That also replaced 3DNow with SSE and added
CMOV.)
> but does not have the supposedly optional
> CMOV instruction that other processors of its class have.
For gcc, "i686" implies the presence of the CMOV instruction, because,
well, CMOV was introduced with
t; watts or less, you gotta leave a few things out.
Maybe so, but you can't then go out and demand that everyone else
doesn't use those features.
> This just means my legacy app is stuck on a 60watt beigebox instead
C3-Nehemiah? C7? Atom?
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Perhaps it would work Cygwin 1.5 actually, which you can install using
http://www.cygwin.com/setup-legacy.exe. Someone else would need to
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Any luck with this?
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rsions of bash, vi and less? Have you got any stty commands or
printing of escape sequences in your bash startup files? Have you
customised the prompt (i.e. the PS1 variable)?
Also, cygcheck output might give a clue; please see
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s an issue with bash or the console.
> I think this is a clue. I did this: "cat - > fred". The keyboard functions
> correctly.
> ! !
> O
> Backspace works, ctrl-U clears the line, no erased characters are in the
> file. Even the up arrow moves the cursor up a line.
Corinna Vinschen:
> Hi Cygwin friends and users,
>
> we're proud to present the next Cygwin release 1.7.2.
It's a hippo! Congratulations!
Also, three cheers for 1.7.1, which held up rather well for a .1
release with lots of big changes.
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Does changing 'bash' to '/bin/bash' make a difference?
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> j8raa6t5a9:
>> I updated to 1.7.2 and the cygwin.bat I modified ages ago to run rxvt does
>> not work anymore. The window pops up and quickly disappears (I'm using
>> Windows XP).
>>
>> cygwin.bat looks like:
>> @echo off
>> C:
mintty 0.6.1-1 is on its way to the Cygwin mirrors. This is a feature
release with lots of small improvements, for example, dropped files
are now inserted as Cygwin paths and options dialog settings can be
specified on the command line using the new -o switch. The mintty
manual page ('man mintty')
s the SHELL variable according to the user's
/etc/passwd entry and to /bin/sh otherwise. And /etc/profile warns
about the missing /etc/passwd entry anyway. So I think I'll revert
that change.
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to date, and rigorously
> tested.
Not that I understand any of the details, but there've been changes to
atexit() handling in 1.7.2; perhaps they're something to do with this.
Might also tie into the thread about rxvt not exiting.
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's the *[.T] pattern matched against?
> Checking the program chain of 'man' with procps, some other macros are added
> already (simply using 'echo'), that's where it could also be added without a
> complete new macro package (i.e. without changing grof
writing anything you set with the -t option.
> mintty -t `one two` result: Same as no quotes
Because that tries to run 'one' as a command.
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hdraw my attempt to help.
>
> ...are you touchy or sth?
Glass house, meet stone.
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> mintty call. Thats the beast that tells mintty to read the
> environment files.
Not quite. It tells mintty to invoke the shell, usually bash, as a
so-called login shell. In that case, bash reads different startup
files compared to when it's invoked as non-login shell.
at way? No idea, sorry.
Both UTF-8 and utf8 are accepted in locale variable settings, as are
utf-8 and UTF8.
Btw, what did you mean by "utf8 (which matches my XP machine)"
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rd_layout#US-International.
If none of the available layouts do what you need, there's also the
possibility of creating your own using MS Keyboard Layout Creator.
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have you got Cygwin 1.7 set up to use CP1251?
> bash# ftp --version
> ftp (GNU inetutils) 1.5
>
> Latest version from http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/inetutils/ - 1.7
The latest Cygwin inetutils package does contain ftp 1.7 actually.
> So I can use lftp for my purpose.
Good.
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"Operating System
Controls").
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e -r', which incidentally is
part of the POSIX standard and hence available on every Unix/Linux,
whereas /etc/*release is not.
http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/utilities/uname.html
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Cygwin's pty emulation is based on.
It shouldn't be horrendously difficult, however, to add a switch for
forcing interactive mode to the mysql client. Python does have such a
switch. Perhaps you could raise this on the
> Incidentally, do you prefer mintty related subjects here or in
> mintty-discuss? Both seem appropriate.
I don't really mind, since they both end up in my inbox anyway, but
generally the more specific list is the better choice, initially
anyway. I do prefer bug reports and enhanceme
sh/manual/bashref.html#Command-Line-Editing
> The next step is when I log in from an Ubuntu 9.10 system to Cygwin 6
> using SSH.
Cygwin 6? Anyway, the above should work in this case as well, as long
as you're using an xterm-compatible terminal on Ubuntu, which you are.
>
lenames to a local legacy
charset such as CP1251, which is what the OP appears to be using. Of
course he hasn't actually told us, nor has he said whether he's still
using Cygwin 1.5.
Legacy charsets are on their way out, 'ftp' was always meant to be a
barebones client, a
the locale and character set in the mintty
options only, which automatically sets LANG accordingly. If you set
LC_ALL or LANG to something else in your shell startup files, then
mintty won't get to know about it, and you end up with a charset
mismatch between mintty and applications running in it.
A
are affected?
- Can you double-check that LC_ALL and LC_CTYPE are unset or empty and
that LANG is set to en_US.UTF-8?
- What font are you using?
- Is there anything in /var/cache/man? If so, does clearing it make a
difference?
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>
> 19:59:25 Paul bibbi...@jijou
> ~ $env | grep LC_ALL
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> 20:00:29 Paul bibbi...@jijou
> ~ $env | grep LC_TYPE
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> and all man pages - or all the ones that I have checked, which are many
> - are certainly unable to render `-' at least.
What
apshots. So it looks like the termios structure that the
keyboard handling reads isn't getting initialised in this case.
Workarounds: Add 'set CYGWIN=tty' to Cygwin.bat (or wherever you're
starting your session from), or use one of the other terminals.
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nsole, Consolas, DejaVu
Mono, and Courier New.
> I had believed that I had set it to `Courier New' in the first place, so
> unless it should render properly under Courier, this is my error.
Easy enough to click on 'Courier' instead of 'Courier New'. I checked
th
e key sends
^@ instead of what's set in the console's stty settings. Yes, I assume
it's a Cygwin bug.
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;DEC Backarrow Key Mode") control
sequence for the purpose, which is also supported by xterm and mintty:
\e[?67h Backspace key sends ^H
\e[?67l Backspace key sends ^?
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ms to work nicely and you can easily switch
> the backspace character now via the DECBKM escape codes.
Nice. The patch looks good to me, and I agree DECBKM is a better
solution than a CYGWIN option, because it's standard and because it
can be used in remote scripts.
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uch the same reason, when testing the
plethora of supported charsets. How about disabling the extended code
points by default and having an option for enabling them?
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de works on FileZilla but not in Putty.
Putty uses the ISO-8859-1 character set by default. Change it to UTF-8
on the Window/Translation page of its options.
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mple.
>
> In cygwin's console window I switched it like you said but it comes out as
> rectangles "[]".
What exactly is coming out as rectangles, i.e. which letters do you
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eous Ctrl and Alt key events). Hopefully I'll find a way to
fix this without breaking something else again.
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the hack for telling AltG from Ctrl+AltGr
> (which is needed because Windows sends AltGr keypresses as
> simultaneous Ctrl and Alt key events). Hopefully I'll find a way to
> fix this without breaking something else again.
ps: One workaround is to use Alt-F4 instead of Ctrl-D.
he
Administrative tab of the Region&Language control panel to Chinese.
Hope that helps,
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is, you
> change the system's "Language for non-Unicode programs" on the
> Administrative tab of the Region&Language control panel to Chinese.
Actually there is a way to change to a font not normally available in
the console properties without changing the "Language
oglecode.com/svn/branches/0.6 mintty-0.6
cd mintty-0.6
make
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> (though it should lead to
> loss in relative productivity approximately on a quarter because of worse
> Windows architecture).
What? Do you mean because of the different APIs on Windows? Well, yes,
that would require extra work, although quantifying that as a quarter
a seems rather arbitrar
n some vi-ish way. A vi expert will have to pronounce on
that.
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d mode. In both cases, pressing Enter a couple of time produces
a new prompt.
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vanilla XP installation which I updated to the
> latest packages earlier today.
Spinning on a 32-bit XP here as well, whereas it didn't on a 64-bit Win7.
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either. Thanks very much, also to
Matthias for pointing out the solution.
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? 67 h,
ESC [ ? 67 l) in Windows console.
(The first one switches to ^H. You'll need to set stty erase accordingly.)
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mintty 0.6.2-1 is on its way to the Cygwin mirrors. This is a
maintenance release with a few small fixes and improvements.
DESCRIPTION
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Mintty is a terminal emulator for Cygwin with a native Windows user
interface and minimalist design. Among its features are Unicode
support and a graph
a few bugs around to keep me company.
;) Andy
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ely though when programs use
console-specific output functions, in particular WriteConsole and
WriteConsoleOutput.
Which programs are the problem cases for you?
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Fixed on svn trunk, which will eventually become mintty-0.7. (svn
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\] which tells
readline not to count it towards the length of the prompt. Confusion
ensues.
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erver, then Cygwin doesn't have anything to do with the terminal
resize notifications.
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may note that mintty has not set them initially but they get set on
> resize - by whatever means... - while in a cygwin console they are not used
> at all.)
Xterm and rxvt don't set them either. Bash sets them on receiving a
SIGWINCH, but not at startup. Go figure.
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"cmd /c attrib"
> Both above means by running it within a bash shell. If I run attrib from a
> cmd box it work correct.
I don't see how that could possibly be the fault of Cygwin or bash.
It's a Windows program dealing with a Windows filesystem feature. Sure
you're a
Matthias Meyer:
> Andy Koppe wrote:
>> Matthias Meyer wrote:
>>> I've installed cygwin 1.7 in Vista and have two problems, not known prior
>>> with cygwin 1.5.25:
>>>
>>> 1) If I login in a shell (e.g. sh --login -i) I can not use cursor or
>
the lookout for ways to improve mintty: what mintty
shortcomings or rxvt features make you prefer rxvt?
(Btw, the issue with the disappearing cursor you reported is fixed in
mintty 0.7-beta1 available from the project website.)
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Variables (or thereabouts).
> I've removed this items. I will install cygwin again if necessary.
Yep, a clean install into a directory without a space in the name
would seem the best way forward.
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> On 2010.05.06 8:04, Andy Koppe wrote:
>>
>> Always on the lookout for ways to improve mintty: what mintty
>> shortcomings or rxvt features make you prefer rxvt?
>>
> My preferred ~/.Xdefaults ?
That would mean linking against Xlib or reimpl
8)
> below /usr/share/terminfo ?
They're hexadecimal ASCII codes representing the first character of
the terminal type. '63' is ASCII for 'c', as in 'cygwin'. '78' is 'x'
as in 'xterm'.
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r such combinations
that's based on numpad keycodes. The keycodes section of the mintty
man page has more on that. Xterm modifyOtherKeys mode is supported,
too.
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I'll look into this when I get back from holiday.
Btw, you can also start a new mintty using Alt+F2.
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ert your script to UTF-8. I'm puzzled as to why LANG=ASCII would
have worked, since that's not a valid setting.
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use it maps the ASCII backslash codepoint to
Unicode yen.
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feed in the same
byte again if it wants to.
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if ja_JP.CP932 and
ja_JP.SJIS do the same thing?
I'm not convinced that adding Shift_JIS to Cygwin as another alias for
CP932 is a good idea, because they aren't actually the same, e.g.
iconv treats them as different charsets. The SJIS alias is dodgy
enough already.
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> $ echo -ne '\x5c ~ \x81\x60'|iconv -f Windows-31J -t UTF-16LE|hexdump
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> iconv: try 'iconv -l' to get the list of supported encodings
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in a box, depending on the font.
But with the '-C ANSI' option, the string is converted to your ANSI
codepage, presumably CP1252, whereby codepoints such as U+F03A that
can't be represented in that codepage are turned into question mark
characters. Have you got any particular reason
nd feature requests can be sent via the issue
tracker on the project page.
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The following settings will give you something more Xish:
- Looks:
Cursor: Block
Enable cursor blinking: off
- Mouse:
Right click action: Extend
Copy on select: on
Speed: Fastest.
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First off, documentation. :)
Thanks,
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x27;t got a clue about how to do that.
Ideally it would be a .msi that installs just the exe and the readme
into %PROGRAMFILES%\MinTTY and puts a shortcut to the exe directly into
Start Menu\Programs.
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stead as that one is supplied by cygwin. Basically the last line of
cygwin.bat was changed to show as...
start mintty bash --login -i
Thanks! That's a good workaround.
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ourse it needs a lot more testing.
Speaking of cygwin.bat, is that actually still needed? I find that bash
can be invoked more directly through a shortcut, and working directory
and icon can be set there too. The same works for mintty.
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On the options dialog box, an apply button would be a good
Addition.
Agreed. I've entered issue 12 for this.
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a pretty obvious place: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Environment
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this is now a moot question as Gary
has taken the option off the table and Yaakov has started work on a
Cygwin package.
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Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote:
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Andy Koppe wrote:
Christopher Faylor wrote:
I wouldn't mind making MinTTY a regular cygwin package. It sounds
like it
would get enough votes.
That would be great. I'll need to read up on the package
ash itself. If there was special support for bash in
the terminal, than why not for tcsh, zsh, vi, emacs, ...
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't implement tabs. I'm not keen on the
background image either, but I've entered issue 18 for it.
And for installation, the method suggested by Yaakov is the best!
Couldn't agree more.
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does work in
apps that handle that signal, e.g. less.)
- I don't see a config option to set the number of lines of scrollback
buffer. Whatever it is defaulting to seems like plenty, but it would be
nice to have that in the config dialogs.
I've rather arbitrarily fixed it to 16k. A
applications,
and X has its own separate keyboard layout infrastructure. MinTTY is a
native Windows application though, hence it depends on this key being
supported in the Windows keyboard layout.
I already accepted the Alt+NumPad issue.
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It gets my +1 vote.
Thanks!
Oh, and if you want to get rid of the console window when mintty is
started from a bat file, I think FreeConsole() would do the trick.
I'll give that a try. Perhaps I should make it a command line option if
I can get it to work?
Andy
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Christopher Faylor wrote:
It accesses the console's screen contents through Win32's
GetConsoleScreenBufferInfo() and displays it in its own window while
hiding the actual console. I can't see a way to combine this sort of
approach with ptys.
If you have a captured interface then a windows cons
Thanks for that. I find X very confusing and mainly just want a simple
xterm to run mutt, slrn and unix like-codes.
Fancy giving MinTTY a try? It is (or at least attempts to be) compatible
with xterm, but it's a native Win32 program, i.e. X is not required.
http://code.google.com/p/
hs dropped.
- Add a context menu when you right-drop which allows you to "Drop path as
Win32" or "Drop path as POSIX".
I like the second idea, because this is something you'd want to decide
on a case-by-case basis. But that would mean descending into the depths
of COM/OL
nt with PC-style too. Bad decision,
because MinTTY advertises itself as "xterm" and Cygwin's xterm and more
importantly the xterm terminfo entry use the PF codes. I entered issue 22.
Thanks,
Andy
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yuanyun.ken wrote:
cygwin is great, I like it.
But when I want to change directory, I have to type 'cd D:/dira/dirb' or 'cd
D:\\dira\\dirb'.
This is somewhat inconvenient.
You might like MinTTY, which allows you to drag and drop files into it.
Your example would be inserted as "D:\dira\dirb".
Christopher Faylor wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 05:39:10AM +0000, Andy Koppe wrote:
>> yuanyun.ken wrote:
>>> cygwin is great, I like it. But when I want to change directory, I
>>> have to type 'cd D:/dira/dirb' or 'cd D:\\dira\\dirb'. This i
digit.
Special thanks to Ashok Vadekar for his help with some of these issues.
Andy
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reached via the context menu or the window
menu (Keyboard shortcuts: menu O or Alt+Space O). Alternatively, the
config file .minttyrc can be edited directly.
Apologies for the lack of documentation.
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nt the ESC character
- The shortcut for the "System Default" font smoothing option didn't
work.
I've started looking into packaging and cygport, but it might still be a
little while. I'll try to submit something before starting work on 0.4.0
enhancements.
Andy
ps: Is thi
thing eventually
Any details you might remember would be much appreciated in the
interests of bug fixing.
Andy
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something like WinTabber, which is a container app that can
aggregate any related windows, is a much better approach to tabbing than
implementing it separately in each app. Shame it's not Free.
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e window can be counted on one hand...
Different people, different preferences. MinTTY inherited that feature
from PuTTY, and I didn't see any reason to remove it. Actually I rather
like fullscreen mode, not so much for the extra space as for the removal
of any visual distractions.
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