Re: multi-user file permission problems

2003-02-12 Thread Brian Ford
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 21:13:32 -0500, Pierre A. Humblet wrote: > It's Users when possible. It has to be one of the groups of the user > running setup. Administrators is the backup choice. It should be > unusual. > Good. > I don't understand why Brian had problems this time, and not in previous >

Re: multi-user file permission problems

2003-02-11 Thread Pierre A. Humblet
On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 12:04:07AM -, Max Bowsher wrote: > Brian Ford wrote: > > I strongly vote for Users. > > Actually, the currently proposed patch decides based on the group membership > of the user running setup. But it might be better for this to be a choosable > option. It's Users when

Re: multi-user file permission problems

2003-02-11 Thread Max Bowsher
Brian Ford wrote: > On Wed, 12 Feb 2003, Max Bowsher wrote: > >> Brian Ford wrote: >>> Why are shells and such confused by this, though? >> >> Well, that scan PATH, looking for executables and if file they >> see isn't executable, they ignore it. >> > Isn't that a bug if they don't use the ACL'

Re: multi-user file permission problems

2003-02-11 Thread Brian Ford
On Wed, 12 Feb 2003, Max Bowsher wrote: > Brian Ford wrote: > > Why are shells and such confused by this, though? > > Well, that scan PATH, looking for executables and if file they see isn't > executable, they ignore it. > Isn't that a bug if they don't use the ACL's for OS's that have 'em? -

Re: multi-user file permission problems

2003-02-11 Thread Max Bowsher
Brian Ford wrote: > On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, Max Bowsher wrote: >> Yep. It's impossible to fully represent an ACL in traditional Unix >> permissions. >> > That's fine. > >>> Trying to execute make in bash via PATH for other users results in >>> make not found. But, trying to execute /usr/bin/make work

Re: multi-user file permission problems

2003-02-11 Thread Brian Ford
On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, Max Bowsher wrote: > Brian Ford wrote: > > Here is an example: > > > > ls -l /bin/make.exe > > -rwx--+ 1 ford None 156160 May 11 2002 make.exe > > > > getfacl -a /bin/make.exe > > # file: make.exe > > # owner: ford > > # group: None > > user::rwx > > group::--

Re: multi-user file permission problems

2003-02-11 Thread Max Bowsher
Brian Ford wrote: > Here is an example: > > ls -l /bin/make.exe > -rwx--+ 1 ford None 156160 May 11 2002 make.exe > > getfacl -a /bin/make.exe > # file: make.exe > # owner: ford > # group: None > user::rwx > group::--- > group:SYSTEM:rwx > group:Administrators:rwx > group:Users:r-x

multi-user file permission problems

2003-02-11 Thread Brian Ford
I recently updated from 1.3.19 to 1.3.20. Setup picked up a few new packages like gcc, ncurses, etc. After the update, the new executables and files had permission problems for other users of my (XP) box. >From reading the mailing list, I thought this might be due to a directory permission inher