Re: Cannot write files if they are hidden

2005-07-22 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Jul 22, 2005 at 02:53:57PM -0400, Larry Hall wrote: >At 02:42 PM 7/22/2005, you wrote: >>Larry Hall wrote: >>>I think it's fair to say that further discussion along the lines of >>>whether Windows is smart or stupid to implement the hidden file >>>semantics as it does is off-topic for this

RE: Cannot write files if they are hidden

2005-07-22 Thread Larry Hall
At 02:42 PM 7/22/2005, you wrote: >Larry Hall wrote: >> >> I think it's fair to say that further discussion along the lines of >> whether Windows is smart or stupid to implement the hidden file >> semantics as it does is off-topic for this list. Any further >> comments along these lines should be

RE: Cannot write files if they are hidden

2005-07-22 Thread Dave Korn
Original Message >From: Thrall, Bryan >Sent: 22 July 2005 19:43 > Larry Hall wrote: >> >> I think it's fair to say that further discussion along the lines of >> whether Windows is smart or stupid to implement the hidden file >> semantics as it does is off-topic for this list. Any further

RE: Cannot write files if they are hidden

2005-07-22 Thread Thrall, Bryan
Larry Hall wrote: > > I think it's fair to say that further discussion along the lines of > whether Windows is smart or stupid to implement the hidden file > semantics as it does is off-topic for this list. Any further > comments along these lines should be taken to the cygwin-talk list > (if the

Re: Cannot write files if they are hidden

2005-07-22 Thread Larry Hall
At 02:21 PM 7/22/2005, you wrote: >My opinion of this matter: > >Hidden should not imply read-only... There are read-only and system >attributes which can perform this feat. > >Why in the world Microsoft decided hidden should be read-only in some of the >time (dos edit -- for those of us who've

Re: Cannot write files if they are hidden

2005-07-22 Thread Joe Brown
My opinion of this matter: Hidden should not imply read-only... There are read-only and system attributes which can perform this feat. Why in the world Microsoft decided hidden should be read-only in some of the time (dos edit -- for those of us who've had to use it when necessary) is beyon

Re: Cannot write files if they are hidden

2005-07-22 Thread Brian Dessent
Joe Smith wrote: > I seccond the motion that the windows hidden attribute be ignored. I suspect > that nearly every user on the list has Explorer.exe set to show hidden > files. Sice Cygwin is very useful for system administrators, and they almost > always leave hidden files visable, it makes no s

Re: Cannot write files if they are hidden

2005-07-22 Thread Krzysztof Duleba
Dave Korn wrote: >> It seems that at the moment a windows hidden file is listed by "ls", can >> be read and appended to, but cannot be replaced. The same as in Windoze. HTH! That's true only to some extend. echo foo > hidden_file fails both in cmd and cygwin, but Windows editors (notepad

Re: Cannot write files if they are hidden

2005-07-22 Thread Joe Smith
I seccond the motion that the windows hidden attribute be ignored. I suspect that nearly every user on the list has Explorer.exe set to show hidden files. Sice Cygwin is very useful for system administrators, and they almost always leave hidden files visable, it makes no sense to treat these fil

Re: Cannot write files if they are hidden

2005-07-22 Thread Cliff Hones
Dave Korn wrote: > Original Message > >>From: Cliff Hones >>Sent: 22 July 2005 17:27 > > >>Dave Korn wrote: >> >>>Original Message >>> >>> From: Thrall, Bryan Sent: 22 July 2005 17:01 >>> >>> Dave Korn wrote: >Original Message > > >>F

RE: Cannot write files if they are hidden

2005-07-22 Thread Dave Korn
Original Message >From: Cliff Hones >Sent: 22 July 2005 17:27 > Dave Korn wrote: >> Original Message >> >>> From: Thrall, Bryan >>> Sent: 22 July 2005 17:01 >> >> >>> Dave Korn wrote: >>> Original Message > From: Thrall, Bryan > Sent: 22 July 2005 16:

Re: Cannot write files if they are hidden

2005-07-22 Thread Cliff Hones
Dave Korn wrote: > Original Message > >>From: Thrall, Bryan >>Sent: 22 July 2005 17:01 > > >>Dave Korn wrote: >> >>>Original Message >>> From: Thrall, Bryan Sent: 22 July 2005 16:26 >>> Is there any reason why a file should *not* be written to if it has the Hidden

RE: Cannot write files if they are hidden

2005-07-22 Thread Dave Korn
Original Message >From: Thrall, Bryan >Sent: 22 July 2005 17:01 > Dave Korn wrote: >> Original Message >>> From: Thrall, Bryan >>> Sent: 22 July 2005 16:26 >> >>> Is there any reason why a file should *not* be written to if it has >>> the Hidden attribute? >> >> Because it's hi

RE: Cannot write files if they are hidden

2005-07-22 Thread Thrall, Bryan
Dave Korn wrote: > Original Message >> From: Thrall, Bryan >> Sent: 22 July 2005 16:26 > >> Is there any reason why a file should *not* be written to if it has >> the Hidden attribute? > > Because it's hidden. HTH! > > > cheers, > DaveK > -- > Can't think of a witty .siglin

RE: Cannot write files if they are hidden

2005-07-22 Thread Dave Korn
Original Message >From: Thrall, Bryan >Sent: 22 July 2005 16:26 > Is there any reason why a file should *not* be written to if it has the > Hidden attribute? Because it's hidden. HTH! cheers, DaveK -- Can't think of a witty .sigline today -- Unsubscribe info: ht