Re: Bug tracker

2010-08-20 Thread Christopher Faylor
we have quite a few who either don't reply to any >>> mail about their package, or who only reply after some nudging. >> >> Agreed, but OTOH I'd guess that half of all of the bugs reported on this >> list are for just two packages: cygwin and setup.exe. ?If the maint

Re: Bug tracker

2010-08-20 Thread Reini Urban
ir package, or who only reply after some nudging. > > Agreed, but OTOH I'd guess that half of all of the bugs reported on this > list are for just two packages: cygwin and setup.exe.  If the maintainers > of those two packages think a bug tracker would be useful, we should make

Re: Bug tracker

2010-08-20 Thread Oleksandr Gavenko
On 19.08.2010 23:11, Eric Blake wrote: On 08/19/2010 01:59 PM, Jeremy Bopp wrote: Of course the quality of the defect tracker is directly related to the effort the maintainers put in to keep it relatively pruned and organized. Maybe that is too much to expect for most maintainers at this time.

Re: Bug tracker

2010-08-19 Thread Eric Blake
On 08/19/2010 01:59 PM, Jeremy Bopp wrote: > Of course the quality of the defect tracker is directly related to the > effort the maintainers put in to keep it relatively pruned and > organized. Maybe that is too much to expect for most maintainers at > this time. Bingo. That's why I'm perfectly

Re: Bug tracker

2010-08-19 Thread Jeremy Bopp
; > This seems like a terrible example to me. You seem to be expecting a bug > tracker will be used for technical support so that if someone is having > problems setting up openssh they will be walked through the problem in > the bug tracker. I'd actually expect that a use

Re: Bug tracker

2010-08-19 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 01:26:03PM -0400, Andrew Schulman wrote: >>On Aug 19 11:23, Andrew Schulman wrote: >>>What is the status of http://cygwin.com/bugzilla? It appears to have >>>been in use at least last year. >>> >>>Provisional effort? Occasionally used? Useful, not useful? >> >>Not used fo

Re: Bug tracker

2010-08-19 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 07:05:53PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >On Aug 19 11:23, Andrew Schulman wrote: >> What is the status of http://cygwin.com/bugzilla? It appears to have been >> in use at least last year. >> >> Provisional effort? Occasionally used? Useful, not useful? > >Not used for

Re: Bug tracker

2010-08-19 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:02:35AM -0500, Jeremy Bopp wrote: >On 8/19/2010 10:18 AM, Andrew Schulman wrote: >> (1) Most important: How many people care? Do users want a bug tracker? >> Would package maintainers use it? Would the cygwin and setup.exe >> maintainers use it? &

Re: Bug tracker

2010-08-19 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:18:48AM -0400, Andrew Schulman wrote: >> http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#SHTDI ? > >Auto-updating the package categories daily doesn't seem hard to me, I would >build that if we had a bug tracker working. > >But before we get to that point, I&#x

Re: Bug tracker

2010-08-19 Thread Andrew Schulman
> On Aug 19 11:23, Andrew Schulman wrote: > > What is the status of http://cygwin.com/bugzilla? It appears to have been > > in use at least last year. > > > > Provisional effort? Occasionally used? Useful, not useful? > > Not used for Cygwin, right now. CGF was using it at least a little bit

Re: Bug tracker

2010-08-19 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Aug 19 11:18, Andrew Schulman wrote: > > http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#SHTDI ? > > Auto-updating the package categories daily doesn't seem hard to me, I would > build that if we had a bug tracker working. > > But before we get to that point, I'd have a few

Re: Bug tracker

2010-08-19 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Aug 19 11:23, Andrew Schulman wrote: > What is the status of http://cygwin.com/bugzilla? It appears to have been > in use at least last year. > > Provisional effort? Occasionally used? Useful, not useful? Not used for Cygwin, right now. Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Pleas

Re: Bug tracker

2010-08-19 Thread Jeremy Bopp
On 8/19/2010 10:18 AM, Andrew Schulman wrote: > (1) Most important: How many people care? Do users want a bug tracker? > Would package maintainers use it? Would the cygwin and setup.exe > maintainers use it? > > Andrew Schulman and Bill Blunn would find a bug tracker useful, b

Re: Bug tracker

2010-08-19 Thread Andrew Schulman
What is the status of http://cygwin.com/bugzilla? It appears to have been in use at least last year. Provisional effort? Occasionally used? Useful, not useful? -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http:/

Re: Bug tracker

2010-08-19 Thread Andrew Schulman
> http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#SHTDI ? Auto-updating the package categories daily doesn't seem hard to me, I would build that if we had a bug tracker working. But before we get to that point, I'd have a few other questions. (1) Most important: How many people care? Do users want

Re: Bug tracker

2010-08-19 Thread Corinna Vinschen
mail about their package, or who only reply after some nudging. > > Agreed, but OTOH I'd guess that half of all of the bugs reported on this > list are for just two packages: cygwin and setup.exe. If the maintainers > of those two packages think a bug tracker would be useful, we sh

Re: Bug tracker

2010-08-19 Thread Andrew Schulman
ing. Agreed, but OTOH I'd guess that half of all of the bugs reported on this list are for just two packages: cygwin and setup.exe. If the maintainers of those two packages think a bug tracker would be useful, we should make one. If they don't, it's probably not worth bothering. >

Re: Bug tracker

2010-08-19 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Aug 19 09:57, Andrew Schulman wrote: > > It might be helpful if I could be clear what the reasons for not having > > a bug tracker are. > > > > I could take a stab as: > > > > 1. It is not the feeling of the Cygwin maintainers that a bug tracker >

Re: Bug tracker

2010-08-19 Thread William Blunn
On 19/08/2010 14:57, Andrew Schulman wrote: I think that a bug tracker would be a nice improvement to our development workflow. As a package maintainer, I'd love to be able to call up a page of all of the open bugs for all of the packages I maintain. I also think that the work to set u

Re: Bug tracker

2010-08-19 Thread Andrew Schulman
> It might be helpful if I could be clear what the reasons for not having > a bug tracker are. > > I could take a stab as: > > 1. It is not the feeling of the Cygwin maintainers that a bug tracker > would provide a significantly better solution than the current mailing &

Bug tracker (was: ImageMagick: More insufficient package dependencies)

2010-08-19 Thread William Blunn
s an interesting point. The thought had crossed my mind that I could set up my own bug tracker, and that this might actually be useful to the project. To be sure, I had wondered if I could set up such a system and include a moderate amount of advertising on the site and that this might prove to