;
> It's working here. Just tried it with a 'configure' script.
>
Yeah, it worked all day for me today as well. Heavy duty makes, mix of
Cygwin and native programs being invoked, plenty of CTRL-C's, never had one
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> From: Christopher Faylor
>
> On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 09:00:06PM -0600, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
> >> From: Christopher Faylor
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 04:10:53PM -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote:
> >> >Out of here...
> >>
> &
appropriately held.
I must have been misled.
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e drag and drop is total coolness. It pastes in a Win32 path though,
which a few Cygwin apps probably won't be able to handle. Here's a
two-for-one idea, free of charge:
- Add a setting where the user can set whether he wants Win32 or POSIXy
paths dropped.
- Add a context menu when you
> From: Gary R. Van Sickle
>
> Hey Andy,
>
> After a thorough 2-minute evaluation, I can give you the
> following feedback:
>
> 1. Good work.
> 2. Super fast.
> 3. Cut and paste in a Unixoid terminal for Cygwin finally
> conforms to Windows norms (AKA "
t'd just be
great to have a nice terminal that didn't require an X server and had
Windows native-y configuration and copy/paste. We'll get to that 21st
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> From: Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E]
>
> Gary R. Van Sickle wrote on Tuesday, December 30, 2008 8:26 AM:
> > 5. It needs a regular Windows installer.
> > 5a. I'm good with Windows installers. You want I should
> whip one up
> > for you?
>
less a more thorough
evaluation turns up some showstopper. Excellent work!
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>
> Hmm, looks very interesting, I'll give it a try and report
> back to the class. I've been looking for a replacement for
> my preferred t
Hmm, looks very interesting, I'll give it a try and report back to the
class. I've been looking for a replacement for my preferred terminal
emulator, MedicineTTY, for quite some time. ;-)
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> From: Andy Koppe
>
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to
> From: Spiro Trikaliotis
>
> Hello Gary,
>
Hey Spiro,
> * On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 03:42:34AM -0600 Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
> > > From: Spiro Trikaliotis
> [...]
> > > Oh, and Subversion is problematic, too. Because the SVN
> developers
> >
> From: Alex Martin
> Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
> >> From: Alex Martin
> >>
> >> Well, I was using a port monitor to debug some of the
> traffic between
> >> my serial device, and my software, when I noticed the output
> >> accidentally.
ctly involved at all and you're saying "My non-Cygwin-related app was
working fine, I changed a bunch of stuff in the app and also upgraded
Cygwin, and now the app is broke and I'm thinking Cygwin could be to blame"?
- Since your app is a GUI app, where did you expect your pri
[Followups set to -talk due to apropos but not-necessarily-Cygwin-specific
devolution of the discussion]
> From: Corinna Vinschen
>
> On Dec 19 10:29, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
> > > From: Andrew DeFaria
> > >
> > > Mark J. Reed wrote:
> > > > On
ly at the core of your problem.
> Any idea how to fix this?
>
Well, no, not really, since you've given very few details to go on. I'd
SWAG that you've somewhere, somehow, redirected stdout to the serial port
you're trying to talk to those devices on.
> Tha
> From: Andrew DeFaria
>
> Mark J. Reed wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 4:42 AM, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
> >> Me too, and like you and the OP report, it "just works"
> 99.44% of the
> >> time. Of course, since it's not the 21st century y
ut the
> "right" mode.
>
Well, better stated, they assume they can treat all files - text,
executables, jpegs, whatever - as if they were Unix-formatted text files.
Of course, they're not, hence problems ensue.
> Best regards,
>Spiro.
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>
> The historical reasons for [un?]merging the cygwin and
> cygwin-xfree lists no longer seems to exist so I am
> contemplating merging the two lists.
For us old-timers, what were the historical reasons again, and why/how did
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ire that, which was put off this time around?
>
> Windows will run under Cygwin 2.0 instead of vice versa.
>
Now THAT'S comedy! ;-)))
Well, unless you were serious, in which case it's still good comedy.
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problem.
2. Unfortunately there's no way to get any of your choices on the package
chooser page to stick.
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s. Known issue? Suspected issue?
I don't know how clipboard responsibilities are divided between rxvt and/or
the server, so I'm not sure who to blame or where to look here.
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n themware.
CSci doesn't begin and end with the CPU currently on our desks!
> You can probably
> ignore the warning on 32-bit platforms, but the better fix is
> to make your code portable by using .
>
Well, yeah. There's always the option to not Do The Right Thing(tm), b
t only the correct answer, but the path of least resistance as well.
Everybody wins!
> I'd be surprised if there's
> a programmer amongst us who can honestly say he wouldn't have
> made that assumption.
>
Be surprised ;-).
> John
>
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1 ; cd /cygdrive/c/apps/bin ; pwd ; nohup ./start.sh \&
; ps -efW | grep java ; exit '" more than once. Regardless, as I believe
others have already pointed out, the cygwin content of this thread is
tending towards zero. I humbly suggest all parties involved take a break,
ncftp of wget for
doing this sort of thing, and don't look back. That will allow you to put
all of those params on the command line. Both programs work great on
Cygwin.
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if [ "${1}" = "" ];
then
# No parameter given, open Explorer in the current bash
directory.
XPATH=".";
else
# Open the given path.
XPATH="$(cygpath -w "${1}")"
ll DateTime") results in the same errors, and
needless to say doesn't end up generating a working DateTime module. This
same version of DateTime did work without error in 5.10.0-4 and does work
with 5.8.8-4.
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ke such Cygwin-content-free snarking to the appropriate list
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7;t get misinterpreted like you've discovered. Hit
the Googles for "shell quoting" and settle in for a long night of reading.
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as real an issue as the OP may think. If it
points to somewhere halfway sane (which it looks like it does for the OP,
i.e. XP's idea of a user's home directory), it shouldn't "screw up cygwin".
OP: What exactly is getting "screwed up"?
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e heretofore-assumed-NP-complete text file line ending
problem which has plauged computer science since prehistoric times. Man I
love living in the future. Thank you Eric for your doggedness in getting
this implemented and (hopefully) accepted.
Here's hoping this can default to "on"
Or is that asking for trouble again?
>
Dave, if literally all you need is an X server for Windows, use Xming
instead:
http://www.straightrunning.com/XmingNotes/
I use this with an otherwise full-on Cygwin install and it works great.
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Allow me to be the first to thank you, Dan, for contributing to the Cygwin
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speak for anyone else, I am sure that all other professionals here
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> From: Bill Meier
>
> Gary R. Van Sickle writes:
>
> >
> > > From: Bill Meier
> > > or maybe KB/s for kilobytes/sec ?
> > >
> >
> > It should be an option, but that begs an "Options..." dialog, which
> > doesn&
> From: Bill Meier
> or maybe KB/s for kilobytes/sec ?
>
It should be an option, but that begs an "Options..." dialog, which doesn't
exist.
>
> Bill Meier
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at, Inc.
Compiled on Dec 14 2007
Yep, I can replicate your report. I'm doubt that it's incorrect behavior
though:
$ find /cygdrive/c/Program\ Files/
/cygdrive/c/Program Files/
[...etc...]
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ngs like ":" in
them, which will choke Windows no matter what year is in its name.
> cheers,
> DaveK
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ink), and actually timed using XCOPY vs. Cygwin methods
(cp in my case). It didn't make a significant difference. Ultimately what
I think you run into in these sorts of situations is that you bump up
against the slowness of the link (or physical disk) because, POSIX emulation
or not, all your
[snip]
Cygwin Content-O-Meter(tm), as of a few dozen posts in this thread ago:
+---+
| 0% 100% |
| \ |
| \|
| \ |
|O |
+---+
Too bad nobody polices such things.
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The Cygwin list is the appropriate place for followups:
> From: Paul McFerrin
>
> Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
> >> From: Paul McFerrin
> >>
> >> I thought is was that straight forward. Consider the .bz2
> file under
> >> bzip2:
> &g
in your efforts to not update. Bite the bullet and
update. Everything. With setup. The chances that you'll be able to
piecemeal update a few apps to present-day versions while retaining a
Cretaceous-era cygwin1.dll and have it be a pleasant experience are zero.
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Heheheh! He thinks he's on the [insert name of any other
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> From: Phil Betts
[]
>
> You're comparing chalk & cheese and complaining that your
> mouth's full of grit.
Oh man, that's goin' in the act! ;-)
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Try mutt.
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> -Original Message-
> From: Jeremy T. Harrison
>
> I have tried with varied success to use "ssmtp" and "email"
> as my email send applications under CygWin. For what ssmtp
> was designed to do, it works fine
> From: Lev Bishop
> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 2:42 PM
> Subject: Re: script problem
>
> On 3/2/07, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
> > The only downside to the switch that I've experienced is that my
> > interactive shells take quite a bit longer to come up
e queues).
>
> Even better. POSIX shared memory objects and message queues
> are both implemented using file backed sharead memory which
> works without help of cygserver.
>
Swt.
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(one instance) + Xming comes out to ~20MB total, ~6MB for urxvt
and ~14MB for Xming.
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or
two interactive shells and leave them up all day) that it's not an issue for
me.
> BTW, nobody has yet to suggest a solution to my original
> problems - XWin won't die during Windows shutdown.
Try Xming as your X server instead, I've never seen this problem with it.
line ending
troubles.
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I don't mean a proof-of-principle; I'm
sure a suitable example can be contrived. What I'm looking for is a shell
script "in the wild" that purposely has a carriage return embedded in it for
reasons other than ending a line of the script.
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> > readable. It is an ascii file which has English words in
> it. It was
> > NOT clear to me that the OP had actually looked at it.
>
> Others obviously did understand that; [snip]
Eli, you need to take this discussion
more specifics i'll provide them. I can't simply
> test this because I don't have the driver, and i won't buy it
> ($900) unless i feel assured that i will be able to make it
> work, hence this email.
>
> Regards,
>
> George Locke
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required by POSIX
> can do so.
Is this the reason? If so, do you know why POSIX requires this? At some
point POSIX compliance ceased to be a goal of the Cygwin project, so I don't
see that as an argument either way.
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new bash
> invocation. Also, you must consider how things should work
> when stdin is a pipe containing \r\n data, since with pipes,
> you can't prescan the first line of input to see what it
> contains because you can't rewind afterwards.
>
What's going to br
reat,
great, great, greatgreatgreat grandchildren will be able to creat a plain
text file on one computer and have it be understood on another.
But I wouldn't put money on it.
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ine endings. Also,
make sure any other tools you might wish to use to process text, cygwin or
non-cygwin, do the same."
The "/r/n vs /n vs /r" Crisis Which Shall Plague Computer Science Forever is
most assuredly not merely a matter of "don't use notepad".
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1% make improvement ;-)), I have a hard time believing that ignoring the
occaisional "\r" is even a blip on bash's radar compared with fork()ing et
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[...]
real23m13.115s
^^ 18 seconds saved (approx. 1%)
user3m56.285s
sys 3m2.261s
So, I shall take that 18 seconds to also thank you for your great work. ;-)
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e when you see an LF that could perhaps have actually
> >been a CR/LF. What we really want is
>
> AFAIK, Cygwin's lseek should handle seeking on text streams.
> DJ implemented that years ago.
>
Last I looked, which was admittedly also years ago, it was "#if
> From: G.W. Haywood
> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 4:53 AM
> Subject: RE: copying and pasting in the terminal window?
>
> Hi there,
>
>
> On Fri, 25 Aug 2006, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
>
> > ... The main trick is (or at least used to be) getting
> y
> From: mwoehlke
> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 10:44 AM
> Subject: Re: copying and pasting in the terminal window?
>
> Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
> >> From: mwoehlke
> >> Cygwin also has an rxvt terminal emulator that may be more to your
> >> likin
> From: mwoehlke
[snip]
> Cygwin also has an rxvt terminal emulator that may be more to
> your liking, but I haven't used it and so can't tell you what
> it's like.
It's awesome, if you're still using the DOS box change over immediately.
Believe me now
I
think it's mainly hand-rolled makefiles these days, but IIRC if somebody's
using crusty enough autotools they'll get configures that do this to you.
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or any
file beyond a certain size. I unfortunately do not recall what that size
is. What happens as you change FILE_SIZE and/or BUFFER_SIZE in your script,
to maybe a small multiple of your cluster size?
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le and copies them an
(f)read/(f)write buffer at a time, while your Windows native program almost
certainly simply calls CopyFile() (a Win32 API), bypassing a ton of library
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V programs, Google Desktop, etc etc etc, and at least prominently flag
their existence, if not make some clear statement to the effect of "This
program is almost certainly causing your problem, plus dozens of others you
don't even know about. Uninstall it."? IIRC, Setup actually gi
all my drives (up to 250 GB).
>
Shut it off and give it another try. Also make sure Google Desktop isn't
running, or anything else that sits in the background hitting files "behind
your back".
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everything to a fast (preferably local) drive/share
and do your business there, if that's possible. It might be a win for you
even if you did a copy-to-local/modify/copy-back sort of deal, depends on
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you're using to do backups, GNU, Cygwin, or otherwise.
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> From: Brian Dessent
>
> "Gary R. Van Sickle" wrote:
>
> > Sorry folks, this is going to probably have to wait until
> the weekend.
> > But I am still about 99.44% confident that this is solvable in a
> > reasonably painless manner.
>
> Do
> From: Gary R. Van Sickle
>
> > From: Samuel Thibault
> >
> > Gary R. Van Sickle, le Mon 24 Apr 2006 23:20:55 -0500, a écrit :
> > >
> >
> http://home.att.net/~g.r.vansickle/cygwin/SetupInstaller/SetupInstalle
> > > r.exe
> >
> >
> From: Samuel Thibault
>
> Gary R. Van Sickle, le Mon 24 Apr 2006 23:20:55 -0500, a écrit :
> >
> http://home.att.net/~g.r.vansickle/cygwin/SetupInstaller/SetupInstalle
> > r.exe
>
> Same result as when I manually copied MSVCRT.DLL to my system
> for getting
> From: Brian Dessent
>
> "Gary R. Van Sickle" wrote:
>
> > Looking through the source tarball brings up another issue though:
> > there's no copy of the GPL included with the source, nor
> could I find
> > one pending in cvs for an upcoming rel
> From: Brian Dessent
> "Gary R. Van Sickle" wrote:
>
> > locate said source. However, it is not where this page <
> > http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin-apps/setup.html> indicates it is
> > ("Source code for setup.exe is available from
> >
lities under Paragraph 3 Subsection c) of the GPL
Version 2 by making the following statement: "I received the software in
question in binary format, with the offer of obtaining the sources from
http://cygwin.com/setup/. Unfortunately, as the sources are not in fact
located there, nor anywher
> From: Max Bowsher
>
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
> >> From: Corinna Vinschen
> >> Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 6:38 AM
> >> To: cygwin@cygwin.com
> >> Subject: Re: Windows 95 supp
rsion of either the exe or the DLL.
Works great for me on XP here.
There'd be source for setup.exe 2.510.2.2 here as well if it was here:
http://www.cygwin.com/setup/ or somewhere else that I could find it.
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> From: [EMAIL PROTE
> From: Samuel Thibault
> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 3:51 AM
> To: cygwin@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: Windows 95 support ?
>
> Hi,
>
> Gary R. Van Sickle, le Mon 24 Apr 2006 02:54:59 -0500, a écrit :
> > Mr. Thibault, do you have any interest in helping test out
access to a Win95 machine since... well, pretty much
forever in PC-years, so the only testing I could do myself would be that it
doesn't wreck anything with XP Pro and Home, and maybe ME if I can ressurect
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heart even though I felt it was necessary. Two of
> those people are back today and sending email to cygwin lists
> with no problem.
>
> Usually when I block someone, I block them from all of the
> cygwin lists.
> But, tonight, I have chosen to only block Gary R. Van Sickle
&g
More non-negative news: The Cygwin/X Server creates its own subdirectory and
a bunch of files in /tmp and still appears to work fine.
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary R.
> Van Sickle
>
> From: Gary R. Van Sickle
>
> > From: Gary R. Van Sickle
> >
> > > From: Christopher Faylor
> > [snip]
> > > Yes, I think it makes sense to open temp files in binary
> > but I'll bet
> > > that someone is relying on textmode beh
search a bit. ]
>
Ahem, without resolution to the minute that's going to help how again?
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"C:\Program Files\Common
Files\Cygwin", and put the DLLs or what have you in there. You make sure
that it gets reference counted, that your Cygwin apps can find it (eg put it
in the Windows PATH), and you're done. To keep versions dealt with
correctly, you probably want to use In
d on me what the problem probably was.
>
> However, if you had narrowed this down to a specific failing
> snapshot or mentioned where it was hanging or what it was
> trying to do, I would have been able to figure this out much faster.
>
> cgf
>
Faster than 19 minutes? W
> Hi:
>
> (tried posting this to the comp.windows.cygwin usenet group
> and got no response, so)
>
There's a comp.windows.cygwin USENET group? When did that happen?
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> From: Shankar Unni
> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 2:28 PM
> To: cygwin@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: _kbhit
>
> Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
>
> > Arend-Jan Westhoff writes:
> >> I cannot confirm your assertion that msvcrt.dll and cygwin1.dll
> >
"Worked" and "Works" are not the same thing.
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robb, Sam
> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 10:09 AM
> To: cygwin@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: BUG: ualarm(0,0) not clearing ualarms
>
> Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
> > I get the same can't-dupli
other
> company, and there are good business reasons to avoid
> changing them. Saying that the makefiles are going about
> everything the wrong way is not an option.
>
Sometimes failure is not an option; it comes standard.
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N-processor
> race-related bug.
>
> cgf
Hyperthreding P4 3.4GHz "X-Treme Edition" (more cache?), 1Gig RAM.
Maybe this is the one bug that HT actually masks instead of reveals. ;-)
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86 Cygwin
I don't have any of this stuff in $CYGWIN, might be worth a try to ditch it:
"
CYGWIN = 'server ntsec forkchunk:32768'
"
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don't recommend it to people. Just having cygwin1.dll in your path is
sufficient.
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n-win.
Bonus hint: Norton Antivirus counts as both a driver and the cause of almost
every problem anybody has ever had with a computer, except for those caused
by all other anti-anything software.
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> [mailto:[EMAIL
y to
> submit a patch. If not, ... well for my own project a kbhit()
> function based on select() is sufficient, so that'll work for
> me at least.
>
You may also want to look at MinGW. They actually link with the real
msvcrt.dll.
> --Michiel.
>
> Mich
to stop wrapping once it hits MS-DOS 4.0. I don't know why.
>
I think it was because they couldn't get the Installable File System thing
working properly. Which is truly shocking really, considering Microsoft's
otherwise-blemishless reputation when it comes to getting all things file
t was BSODing on you, but to tell you
the truth it's been so long since I've seen one I don't know if it does
anymore. If it does, it will probably be a driver, and then you're 99% of
the way towards a solution.
Hey, this would make a reasonably good
Not-Entirely-Infrequently
ce.
>
Last I checked it was "cause more problems than the viruses we purportedly
protect you from would".
Look guys, the bottom line here is that on-access virus scanners cause
trouble. Not just for Cygwin, and not just particular ones. Scan your
incoming email, scan your downloa
27;t.
The long non-rant answer would require a logical explanation from Microsoft
as to why their filesystem infrastructure is completely incapable of
properly handling removable media, and that is highly unlikely to be
forthcoming.
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