Re: Why are the 32- and 64-bit cygwin1.dlls incompatible?

2013-08-23 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 06:56:53PM -0600, Warren Young wrote: >On 8/23/2013 13:16, Christopher Faylor wrote: >> The original error message was certainly not clear but maybe we need >> to have something like: >> >> "Can't run 32-bit Cygwin programs in a 64-bit Cygwin environment" >> >> and vice vers

Re: Why are the 32- and 64-bit cygwin1.dlls incompatible?

2013-08-23 Thread Warren Young
On 8/23/2013 13:16, Christopher Faylor wrote: The original error message was certainly not clear but maybe we need to have something like: "Can't run 32-bit Cygwin programs in a 64-bit Cygwin environment" and vice versa with a, as you say, (ugh) way to turn this on and off. I don't want this

Problems in configuring Perl on Cygwin-64

2013-08-23 Thread Paul King
I have run into unusual problems in configuring Perl from the time I began using perl on my new Windows 7 installation (which was two days ago). I wanted to introduce libraries into the Perl distro, and my customary way of doing this is to invoke: perl -MCPAN -e shell which brings up the Per

Poszukuję współpracowników do nowatorskiego projektu

2013-08-23 Thread weron...@wmech1.webd.pl
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Re: .tar.xz for snapshots?

2013-08-23 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
On 2013-08-23 14:17, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:16:08PM -0600, Warren Young wrote: On 8/23/2013 12:14, Corinna Vinschen wrote: Doesn't xz also have a faster uncompression than bzip2? Yup: http://tukaani.org/lzma/benchmarks.html Well there you go then... Which rem

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Cygwin package search down for a while

2013-08-23 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)
On 8/23/2013 4:13 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 04:07:57PM -0400, Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote: On 8/23/2013 3:22 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 01:27:13PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: I'm working on bringing Cygwin's package search into the mult

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Cygwin package search down for a while

2013-08-23 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 04:07:57PM -0400, Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote: >On 8/23/2013 3:22 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 01:27:13PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: >>> I'm working on bringing Cygwin's package search into the multi-arch >>> world so it will be down for a whi

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Cygwin package search down for a while

2013-08-23 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)
On 8/23/2013 3:22 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 01:27:13PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: I'm working on bringing Cygwin's package search into the multi-arch world so it will be down for a while while I tweak things. It should be back up by Saturday so please don't pan

Re: setting up sshd on windows 7

2013-08-23 Thread Anatoly Yakovenko
> Because 'sshd' is finicky about permissions, doing this may well have removed your ability to run 'sshd' as a service under the default service user 'cyg_server'. With that would also come the loss of the ability to login with public key authentication. If any of this is important to you, you n

Re: Why are the 32- and 64-bit cygwin1.dlls incompatible?

2013-08-23 Thread Charles Wilson
On 8/23/2013 2:12 PM, Warren Young wrote: I don't think ncurses can work without a tty interface Orpie runs in a cmd.exe window. ncurses must have some fall-back mode. When you launch a cygwin program in a cmd.exe window, cygwin sets up a tty-like interface (the TERM=cygwin terminal), and (

Re: compress / ncompress package for Cygwin

2013-08-23 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 08:13:40PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >On Aug 23 12:23, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: >> On Fri, 2013-08-23 at 17:09 +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >> >> > On Aug 23 16:11, Hubert Garavel wrote: >> > > >> > > Contrary to most Unix-like operating systems, Cygwin does not hav

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Cygwin package search down for a while

2013-08-23 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 01:27:13PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: >I'm working on bringing Cygwin's package search into the multi-arch >world so it will be down for a while while I tweak things. > >It should be back up by Saturday so please don't panic unless it >seems broken after Saturday after

Re: .tar.xz for snapshots?

2013-08-23 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:16:08PM -0600, Warren Young wrote: >On 8/23/2013 12:14, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >> On Aug 23 14:09, Christopher Faylor wrote: >>> On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:00:58PM -0600, Keith Christian wrote: Perhaps we should test to see whether we want to trade compression for

Re: Why are the 32- and 64-bit cygwin1.dlls incompatible?

2013-08-23 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 02:23:30PM -0400, Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote: >On 8/23/2013 12:33 PM, Warren Young wrote: > > > >>> I just hope this won't lead to more confusion if 32 bit processes >>> started from 64 bit (or vice versa) don't act as expected in some >>> circumstances. >> >> Oh, it probably

Re: autorebase.bat stalls during setup-x86.exe

2013-08-23 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Aug 23 18:39, Fritz, Jason wrote: > Hi Corinna, > > My environment seems to have been seriously damaged by the upgrade. I > started a bash (not dash) shell and immediately saw these errors: > > -bash: id: command not found > -bash: id: command not found > -bash: cut: command not found > > I

RE: autorebase.bat stalls during setup-x86.exe

2013-08-23 Thread Fritz, Jason
Hi Corinna, My environment seems to have been seriously damaged by the upgrade. I started a bash (not dash) shell and immediately saw these errors: -bash: id: command not found -bash: id: command not found -bash: cut: command not found I tried running 'ls' and also got "command not found". My

Re: Why are the 32- and 64-bit cygwin1.dlls incompatible?

2013-08-23 Thread Achim Gratz
Warren Young writes: > Orpie runs in a cmd.exe window. ncurses must have some fall-back mode. IIUC, orpie won't find a tty/pty interface in your situation and it won't be able to use the cmd.exe interface because it isn't run from cmd.exe. What do you expect it to do? Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+

Re: setting up sshd on windows 7

2013-08-23 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)
On 8/23/2013 11:42 AM, Anatoly Yakovenko wrote: So i ran sshd by hand, which gave me an obnoxious error about /var/empty not being owned by root. turns out it just needs to be owned by the user running sshd. after i was able to run it by hand with -d, i saw an error that /bin/bash is not execut

Re: autorebase.bat stalls during setup-x86.exe

2013-08-23 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Aug 23 16:26, Fritz, Jason wrote: > Thanks Corinna, I suppose I'll try to reinstall. Is there an easy way > to see a list of packages I've installed on top of the default > install, so that I can install all those same packages? Uh, no, there's no such functionality, but you can call `cygcheck

Re: Why are the 32- and 64-bit cygwin1.dlls incompatible?

2013-08-23 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)
On 8/23/2013 12:33 PM, Warren Young wrote: I just hope this won't lead to more confusion if 32 bit processes started from 64 bit (or vice versa) don't act as expected in some circumstances. Oh, it probably will, but a cygcheck dump will tell us when this is probably happening, because both C

Re: .tar.xz for snapshots?

2013-08-23 Thread Warren Young
On 8/23/2013 12:14, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Aug 23 14:09, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:00:58PM -0600, Keith Christian wrote: Perhaps we should test to see whether we want to trade compression for time. The only time that the end-user has to worry about is download t

Re: .tar.xz for snapshots?

2013-08-23 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Aug 23 14:09, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:00:58PM -0600, Keith Christian wrote: > >Perhaps we should test to see whether we want to trade compression for time. > > The only time that the end-user has to worry about is download time + > uncompress time. I think that t

Re: compress / ncompress package for Cygwin

2013-08-23 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Aug 23 12:23, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: > On Fri, 2013-08-23 at 17:09 +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > > On Aug 23 16:11, Hubert Garavel wrote: > > > > > > Contrary to most Unix-like operating systems, Cygwin does not have > > > the /bin/compress command installed by default and has no packag

Re: Why are the 32- and 64-bit cygwin1.dlls incompatible?

2013-08-23 Thread Warren Young
On 8/23/2013 11:53, Achim Gratz wrote: Warren Young writes: Line 30 of main.ml is: assert (cbreak ()); Soncurses isn't working correctly across the exec() boundary? I don't think ncurses can work without a tty interface Orpie runs in a cmd.exe window. ncurses must have some fall-ba

Re: .tar.xz for snapshots?

2013-08-23 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:00:58PM -0600, Keith Christian wrote: >Perhaps we should test to see whether we want to trade compression for time. The only time that the end-user has to worry about is download time + uncompress time. I think that the win with xz compression outweighs any increase in

Re: .tar.xz for snapshots?

2013-08-23 Thread Keith Christian
Perhaps we should test to see whether we want to trade compression for time. Unscientific benchmark: I compressed a 7.6mb tar file with bzip2, lzip, and xz. xz had the best compression but the slowest time, lzip was in the middle in both speed and size categories, and bzip2 was fastest but less

Re: Why are the 32- and 64-bit cygwin1.dlls incompatible?

2013-08-23 Thread Achim Gratz
Warren Young writes: > Line 30 of main.ml is: > > assert (cbreak ()); > > Soncurses isn't working correctly across the exec() boundary? I don't think ncurses can work without a tty interface and that's one of the things you've lost through the "foreign" exec. You'd need something like start

Re: .tar.xz for snapshots?

2013-08-23 Thread Earnie Boyd
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 10:29:03AM -0600, Warren Young wrote: >>Corinna, would you please consider moving to .tar.xz for snapshots? > -->8-- > Poll: Does anyone care if we move from bz2 to xz for snapshots? > FYI, MinGW.org uses lzma for

[ANNOUNCEMENT] Cygwin package search down for a while

2013-08-23 Thread Christopher Faylor
I'm working on bringing Cygwin's package search into the multi-arch world so it will be down for a while while I tweak things. It should be back up by Saturday so please don't panic unless it seems broken after Saturday afternoon. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ:

Re: compress / ncompress package for Cygwin

2013-08-23 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
On Fri, 2013-08-23 at 17:09 +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Aug 23 16:11, Hubert Garavel wrote: > > > > Contrary to most Unix-like operating systems, Cygwin does not have > > the /bin/compress command installed by default and has no package > > to install it on demand. Cygwin has an uncompres

Re: .tar.xz for snapshots?

2013-08-23 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 10:29:03AM -0600, Warren Young wrote: >Corinna, would you please consider moving to .tar.xz for snapshots? I'm actually the person responsible for the snapshot mechanism. The intent of the raw dlls was to make it relatively easy to download and uncompress a dll without usi

Re: setting up sshd on windows 7

2013-08-23 Thread Greg Swallow
I changed the LogLevel to DEBUG in /etc/sshd_config, and I was able to see helpful information in the event log after restarting the ssh service. Also, CopSSH, which uses Cygwin, sets some parameters for stderr and stdout that I forget, in the ssh service key in the registry. I've since deleted t

Re: Orpie love (was: Why are the 32- and 64-bit cygwin1.dlls incompatible?)

2013-08-23 Thread Warren Young
On 8/23/2013 06:42, Andrew Schulman wrote: Consider Orpie, which isn't ported to Cygwin 64 yet because OCaml isn't. Hah! Another Orpie user! I love Orpie, but sometimes I've wondered if I was the only one. Everyone who appreciates HP RPN calculators should try Orpie. A decent PC keyboard i

Re: Why are the 32- and 64-bit cygwin1.dlls incompatible?

2013-08-23 Thread Warren Young
and vice versa, starting with the snapshots I'm just generating. Beautiful! I just tried this snapshot: http://cygwin.com/snapshots/x86_64/cygwin1-20130823.dll.bz2 and my 'ls' test succeeded. Alas, my Orpie test failed: $ PATH=/cygdrive/c/cygwin32/lib/lapack /cygdrive

.tar.xz for snapshots?

2013-08-23 Thread Warren Young
Corinna, would you please consider moving to .tar.xz for snapshots? Two reasons: - tar preserves the executable bit. I suspect this hasn't been a problem in the past since unpacking with, say, the 7-Zip GUI *does* set the executable bit, because of the archive flag hack. But now that I have

RE: autorebase.bat stalls during setup-x86.exe

2013-08-23 Thread Fritz, Jason
Thanks Corinna, I suppose I'll try to reinstall. Is there an easy way to see a list of packages I've installed on top of the default install, so that I can install all those same packages? FYI, each time I run setup-x86.exe I get the same behavior. Here is a snippet of a follow-on session fro

Re: setting up sshd on windows 7

2013-08-23 Thread Anatoly Yakovenko
So i ran sshd by hand, which gave me an obnoxious error about /var/empty not being owned by root. turns out it just needs to be owned by the user running sshd. after i was able to run it by hand with -d, i saw an error that /bin/bash is not executable for my user. I was able to fix this by givin

Re: compress / ncompress package for Cygwin

2013-08-23 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Aug 23 16:11, Hubert Garavel wrote: > > Contrary to most Unix-like operating systems, Cygwin does not have > the /bin/compress command installed by default and has no package > to install it on demand. Cygwin has an uncompress command (that relies > on gunzip), but no compress command to make g

Re: compress / ncompress package for Cygwin

2013-08-23 Thread Hubert Garavel
and there remain some hidden restrictions. Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compress#History) does not say so: "The US LZW patent expired in 2003, so it is now in the public domain in the United States. All patents on the LZW worldwide have also expired (see Graphics Interchange Format

Re: compress / ncompress package for Cygwin

2013-08-23 Thread Tim Prince
On 08/23/2013 10:11 AM, Hubert Garavel wrote: Contrary to most Unix-like operating systems, Cygwin does not have the /bin/compress command installed by default and has no package to install it on demand. Cygwin has an uncompress command (that relies on gunzip), but no compress command to make ge

compress / ncompress package for Cygwin

2013-08-23 Thread Hubert Garavel
Contrary to most Unix-like operating systems, Cygwin does not have the /bin/compress command installed by default and has no package to install it on demand. Cygwin has an uncompress command (that relies on gunzip), but no compress command to make genuine .Z files. This would be certainly easy t

Re: Why are the 32- and 64-bit cygwin1.dlls incompatible?

2013-08-23 Thread Andrew Schulman
> Consider Orpie, which isn't ported to Cygwin 64 yet because OCaml isn't. Hah! Another Orpie user! I love Orpie, but sometimes I've wondered if I was the only one. Andrew -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation:

Re: autorebase.bat stalls during setup-x86.exe

2013-08-23 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Aug 22 22:13, Fritz, Jason wrote: > Today I downloaded the new setup-x86.exe from Cygwin.com and upgraded my > Cygwin release.  During the process, the installation stalled while running > "_autorebase" (/etc/postinstall/autorebase.bat).  I let the installer stay > stalled at 68% complete for

Re: shell-init: error retrieving current directory

2013-08-23 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Aug 23 09:52, nu774 wrote: > Thanks, 4.1.11-2 is now working fine. > > (2013/08/22 23:12), Corinna Vinschen wrote: > >Since our bash maintainer Eric is currently extremly busy, I took a stab > >at it and created a new bash-4.1.11-2 64-bit package. It picked up the > >Cygwin getcwd and didn't h

Re: Why are the 32- and 64-bit cygwin1.dlls incompatible?

2013-08-23 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Aug 22 16:46, Earnie Boyd wrote: > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > > > When execveing a Cygwin process, a lot of data is submitted via shared > > memory, via data copying, and via a special parameter to the > > CreateProcess call with the mysterious name "lpReserved2

Re: perl 5.14.4-1: missing dependency on libssp0

2013-08-23 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Aug 23 05:03, puetzk wrote: > After installing cygwin64 on a fresh machine tonight (see attached > cygcheck.txt for exact versions), quilt failed to run because perl was > missing a dll: > > $ quilt refresh > /usr/bin/perl.exe: error while loading shared libraries: cygssp-0.dll: > cannot open s