On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 16:27:06 -0400
John Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thursday 22 June 2006 13:09, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> > * John Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060620 13:31] wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 20 June 2006 14:53, David O'Brien wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 07:43:00PM -04
On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 10:54:26 -0600 (MDT)
"M. Warner Losh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> "David O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> : On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 05:14:09PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote:
> : > Fair enough. How about just making it undocument
On Thursday 22 June 2006 13:09, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> * John Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060620 13:31] wrote:
> > On Tuesday 20 June 2006 14:53, David O'Brien wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 07:43:00PM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote:
> > > > Personally, I was debating on just removing most of th
* John Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060620 13:31] wrote:
> On Tuesday 20 June 2006 14:53, David O'Brien wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 07:43:00PM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote:
> > > Personally, I was debating on just removing most of the
> > > world target with just a message:
> > >
> > > "The worl
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"David O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 05:14:09PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote:
: > Fair enough. How about just making it undocumented again then? :)
:
: Or if 'make world' is desired to be disabled, there's also this approac
On Thu, Jun 22, 2006 at 10:59:26AM +0930, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote..
> On Wednesday, 21 June 2006 at 18:51:02 -0400, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
> > At 4:07 PM -0600 6/21/06, M. Warner Losh wrote:
> >> :
> >> : And we're back to the compromise that we had before...
> >>
> >> Unless we want to require
On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 00:35:23 -0700
"David O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 05:14:09PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote:
> > Fair enough. How about just making it undocumented again then? :)
>
> Or if 'make world' is desired to be disabled, there's also this approach:
I lik
On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 04:07:06PM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote:
> In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "M. Warner Losh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> : The problem with making it 'user-supported' is that it really is a
> : dangerous tool for the normal user. Sure, it mostly works, most of
> : the time,
On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 05:14:09PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote:
> Fair enough. How about just making it undocumented again then? :)
Or if 'make world' is desired to be disabled, there's also this approach:
Index: Makefile
===
RCS file
On Wednesday, 21 June 2006 at 18:51:02 -0400, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
> At 4:07 PM -0600 6/21/06, M. Warner Losh wrote:
>> :
>> : And we're back to the compromise that we had before...
>>
>> Unless we want to require I_KNOW_WORLD_CAN_HURT_ME instead
>> of HISTORICAL_MAKE_WORLD :-)
>
> NO_FUTURE_WO
At 4:07 PM -0600 6/21/06, M. Warner Losh wrote:
:
: And we're back to the compromise that we had before...
Unless we want to require I_KNOW_WORLD_CAN_HURT_ME instead
of HISTORICAL_MAKE_WORLD :-)
NO_FUTURE_WORLD ... GRIM_FUTURE_WORLD
(there's some disk-program that requires the user
ty
On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 04:07:06PM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote..
> In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> "M. Warner Losh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> : In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> : John Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> : : The nature of the compromise over 'make wo
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"M. Warner Losh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: John Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: : The nature of the compromise over 'make world' was that rather than
removing
: : the knob we'd leave it undocumente
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John Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: The nature of the compromise over 'make world' was that rather than removing
: the knob we'd leave it undocumented so that new users aren't tempted to use
: it, but instead will revert to using buildworld/insta
On Tuesday 20 June 2006 19:34, Tom Rhodes wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:51:40 -0600 (MDT)
> "M. Warner Losh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > John Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > : On Tuesday 20 June 2006 16:41, M. Warner Losh wrote:
> > :
On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:51:40 -0600 (MDT)
"M. Warner Losh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> John Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> : On Tuesday 20 June 2006 16:41, M. Warner Losh wrote:
> : > In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> : > John Baldwi
On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:53:21 -0700
"David O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 07:43:00PM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote:
> > Personally, I was debating on just removing most of the
> > world target with just a message:
> >
> > "The world target has been replaced with the buildw
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John Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: On Tuesday 20 June 2006 16:41, M. Warner Losh wrote:
: > In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: > John Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: > : On Tuesday 20 June 2006 14:53, David O'Brien wrote:
: > : >
On Tuesday 20 June 2006 16:41, M. Warner Losh wrote:
> In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> John Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> : On Tuesday 20 June 2006 14:53, David O'Brien wrote:
> : > On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 07:43:00PM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote:
> : > > Personally, I was debating
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John Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: On Tuesday 20 June 2006 14:53, David O'Brien wrote:
: > On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 07:43:00PM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote:
: > > Personally, I was debating on just removing most of the
: > > world target with just a mes
On Tuesday 20 June 2006 14:53, David O'Brien wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 07:43:00PM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote:
> > Personally, I was debating on just removing most of the
> > world target with just a message:
> >
> > "The world target has been replaced with the buildworld target."
>
> No!
>
>
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 07:43:00PM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote:
> Personally, I was debating on just removing most of the
> world target with just a message:
>
> "The world target has been replaced with the buildworld target."
No!
'make world' is still my normal building process. Why force
"make bu
On Monday 12 June 2006 19:37, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
> On Monday, 12 June 2006 at 8:49:56 -0400, John Baldwin wrote:
> > On Friday 09 June 2006 20:57, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
> >> On Friday, 9 June 2006 at 8:53:47 -0400, John Baldwin wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday 07 June 2006 20:48, Greg 'gro
On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:21:55 +0100
Ceri Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 08:38:02PM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote:
> > On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 08:53:47 -0400
> > John Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wednesday 07 June 2006 20:48, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
> > > > O
On Monday, 12 June 2006 at 8:49:56 -0400, John Baldwin wrote:
> On Friday 09 June 2006 20:57, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>> On Friday, 9 June 2006 at 8:53:47 -0400, John Baldwin wrote:
>>> On Wednesday 07 June 2006 20:48, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>> Obfuscation is always wrong.
>
> Not in this
On Friday 09 June 2006 20:57, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
> On Friday, 9 June 2006 at 8:53:47 -0400, John Baldwin wrote:
> > On Wednesday 07 June 2006 20:48, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, 7 June 2006 at 10:51:45 -0400, John Baldwin wrote:
> >>> I thought the obfuscation was intent
On Friday 09 June 2006 20:38, Tom Rhodes wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 08:53:47 -0400
> John Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday 07 June 2006 20:48, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, 7 June 2006 at 10:51:45 -0400, John Baldwin wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday 06 June 2006 23
On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 08:38:02PM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 08:53:47 -0400
> John Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday 07 June 2006 20:48, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, 7 June 2006 at 10:51:45 -0400, John Baldwin wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday 06
On Friday, 9 June 2006 at 8:53:47 -0400, John Baldwin wrote:
> On Wednesday 07 June 2006 20:48, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>> On Wednesday, 7 June 2006 at 10:51:45 -0400, John Baldwin wrote:
>>> I thought the obfuscation was intentional as very few people should
>>> be doing a 'make world' witho
On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 08:53:47 -0400
John Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wednesday 07 June 2006 20:48, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 7 June 2006 at 10:51:45 -0400, John Baldwin wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 06 June 2006 23:33, Tom Rhodes wrote:
> > >> trhodes 2006-06-07 03:33:4
On Wednesday 07 June 2006 20:48, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
> On Wednesday, 7 June 2006 at 10:51:45 -0400, John Baldwin wrote:
> > On Tuesday 06 June 2006 23:33, Tom Rhodes wrote:
> >> trhodes 2006-06-07 03:33:48 UTC
> >>
> >> FreeBSD src repository
> >>
> >> Modified files:
> >> .
On Thursday 08 June 2006 15:32, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Jun 2006, Tom Rhodes wrote:
>
> TR> > I thought the obfuscation was intentional as very few people should be
doing
> TR> > a 'make world' without a custom DESTDIR these days. Certainly people
new to
> TR> > FreeBSD shouldn't
On Wed, 7 Jun 2006, Tom Rhodes wrote:
TR> > I thought the obfuscation was intentional as very few people should be
doing
TR> > a 'make world' without a custom DESTDIR these days. Certainly people new
to
TR> > FreeBSD shouldn't be doing it; only those with the command hardwired into
TR> > the
On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 10:51:45 -0400
John Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday 06 June 2006 23:33, Tom Rhodes wrote:
> > trhodes 2006-06-07 03:33:48 UTC
> >
> > FreeBSD src repository
> >
> > Modified files:
> > .Makefile README
> > Log:
> > Simply ru
On Wednesday, 7 June 2006 at 10:51:45 -0400, John Baldwin wrote:
> On Tuesday 06 June 2006 23:33, Tom Rhodes wrote:
>> trhodes 2006-06-07 03:33:48 UTC
>>
>> FreeBSD src repository
>>
>> Modified files:
>> .Makefile README
>> Log:
>> Simply running ``make world''
On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 10:28:43 +0100
Ceri Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 03:33:48AM +, Tom Rhodes wrote:
> > trhodes 2006-06-07 03:33:48 UTC
> >
> > FreeBSD src repository
> >
> > Modified files:
> > .Makefile README
> > Log:
> >
On Tuesday 06 June 2006 23:33, Tom Rhodes wrote:
> trhodes 2006-06-07 03:33:48 UTC
>
> FreeBSD src repository
>
> Modified files:
> .Makefile README
> Log:
> Simply running ``make world'' will bomb unless you dig up the
> undocumented HISTORICAL_MAKE_WORLD v
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 03:33:48AM +, Tom Rhodes wrote:
> trhodes 2006-06-07 03:33:48 UTC
>
> FreeBSD src repository
>
> Modified files:
> .Makefile README
> Log:
> Simply running ``make world'' will bomb unless you dig up the
> undocumented HISTORICAL_M
trhodes 2006-06-07 03:33:48 UTC
FreeBSD src repository
Modified files:
.Makefile README
Log:
Simply running ``make world'' will bomb unless you dig up the
undocumented HISTORICAL_MAKE_WORLD variable and set it. Note it
here so the blow up will not really
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