Re: Comcast@Home bans VPNs

2000-08-27 Thread Damien Miller
On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, Phil Karn wrote: > I've been saying for some time that we need a IP-over-SSL tunneling > protocol standard. ISPs would *never* dare block TCP port 443, since > as we all know the only important Internet application is to let > people buy stuff online... You can do this using

Re: Comcast@Home bans VPNs

2000-08-26 Thread Bram Cohen
On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, Phil Karn wrote: > I've been saying for some time that we need a IP-over-SSL tunneling > protocol standard. ISPs would *never* dare block TCP port 443, since > as we all know the only important Internet application is to let > people buy stuff online... You can tunnel PPP ov

Re: Comcast@Home bans VPNs

2000-08-24 Thread Phil Karn
>Is making an SSL connection creating a VPN? It's really not much >different in an abstract sense. Most applications are using browsers I've been saying for some time that we need a IP-over-SSL tunneling protocol standard. ISPs would *never* dare block TCP port 443, since as we all know the onl

Re: Comcast@Home bans VPNs

2000-08-21 Thread Peter Wayner
Is making an SSL connection creating a VPN? It's really not much different in an abstract sense. Most applications are using browsers as interfaces anyway. So I think this will only encourage businesses to set up SSL server/client models instead of general VPNs. -Peter -- ---

Re: Comcast@Home bans VPNs

2000-08-21 Thread Dennis Glatting
Has comcast defined a VPN (i.e., IPsec, SSH, etc.)?

Re: Comcast@Home bans VPNs

2000-08-20 Thread James A. Donald
-- Ian Brown writes: > > ... subscribers to agree not to use the service as a means to create a VPN. At 10:52 PM 8/19/2000 -0400, Russell Nelson wrote: > Could someone describe to me (in my ignorance) the problem this rule is intended to solve? Sounds like a market differentiation tact

Re: Comcast@Home bans VPNs

2000-08-20 Thread Ben Laurie
Russell Nelson wrote: > > Ian Brown writes: > > ... subscribers to agree not to use the service as a means to create a VPN. > > Could someone describe to me (in my ignorance) the problem this rule > is intended to solve? Loss of revenue from leased lines. BT did a number of interesting things

Re: Comcast@Home bans VPNs

2000-08-20 Thread Jay D. Dyson
On Sat, 19 Aug 2000, Russell Nelson wrote: > > ... subscribers to agree not to use the service as a means to create a > > VPN. > > Could someone describe to me (in my ignorance) the problem this rule is > intended to solve? The only "problem" that this approach appears intended to "so

Re: Comcast@Home bans VPNs

2000-08-19 Thread Russell Nelson
Ian Brown writes: > ... subscribers to agree not to use the service as a means to create a VPN. Could someone describe to me (in my ignorance) the problem this rule is intended to solve? -- -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://russnelson.com | If you think Crynwr sells support for free s