Re: [computer-go] mogo beats pro!

2008-08-10 Thread Bob Hearn
ed computation, but that would just shrink the 32 years by maybe a decade. How do others feel about this? I guess I should also go on record as believing that if it really does take 32 years, we *will* have general-purpose AI before then. Bob Hearn

[computer-go] Complexity of Go

2008-08-10 Thread Bob Hearn
is PSPACE-complete. But fascinating as these complexity issues are (I've spent a fair amount of time trying to prove that go with superko is EXPSPACE- complete), I don't think they are really relevant to computer go. Bob Hearn References: J. M. Robson. The complexity of Go. In Proceed

Re: [computer-go] Correction in AGA eJournal...

2008-08-12 Thread Bob Hearn
Well you can blame me for linking to the AGA story on Slashdot, but at least I didn't repeat the misquote, and I also asked Chris to fix it on the AGA site. I figured it would probably make Slashdot quickly anyway, so the story might as well be written by someone with at least a bit of a cl

Re: [computer-go] What was the specific design of the Mogo version which beat the pro...

2008-08-12 Thread Bob Hearn
The MoGo programmer who answered questions after the match (Olivier Teytaud) did state that MoGo no longer used UCT. He gave a one-line statement of the reason they switched, which I did not follow. Bob On Aug 12, 2008, at 7:00 PM, Jim O'Flaherty wrote: All, Can anyone detail the design

Re: [computer-go] yet a mogo vs human game

2008-08-27 Thread Bob Hearn
In principle MoGo ought to be about a stone (or slightly more) weaker with 1/5 the processing power, which is consistent with 2-3d against Kim and 1-2d against the 6d. I watched both games, and MoGo did seem stronger to me against Kim... but then, I knew in advance the processing power in e

Re: [computer-go] yet a mogo vs human game

2008-08-27 Thread Bob Hearn
On Aug 27, 2008, at 2:48 PM, Don Dailey wrote: On Wed, 2008-08-27 at 13:20 -0700, Bob Hearn wrote: In principle MoGo ought to be about a stone (or slightly more) weaker with 1/5 the processing power, which is consistent with 2-3d against Kim and 1-2d against the 6d. I thought a doubling was

Re: [computer-go] semeai

2008-09-05 Thread Bob Hearn
oming a stronger player), one should not expect complete generality prematurely. But conceivably, it is not necessary to completely analyze semeai statically, merely to produce some better heuristics so that the playouts do a better job with semea

[computer-go] Opportunity to promote computer Go: possible to arrange a high-profile match?

2008-11-17 Thread Bob Hearn
m, see the symposium information page. There's no way to link directly to the page; to get there, go to http://www.abstractsonline.com/viewer/?mkey=%7B8AA65090%2D37AD%2D4C29%2D9CF1%2D9BCD6EFA2210%7D , and enter "Hearn" into the search box. Thank you, Bob Hearn

Re: [computer-go] Re: Opportunity to promote ...

2008-11-18 Thread Bob Hearn
On Nov 17, 2008, at 11:34 PM, Ingo Althöfer wrote: Dear Bob Hearn, it is not what you have been looking for, but nevertheless I want to ask you if the title of your talk "Games Computers Can't Play" is still up-to-date. I would accept something like "Games Computers

Re: [computer-go] Skynet likes Go

2008-11-25 Thread Bob Hearn
The episode was actually called "Strange Things Happen at the One Two Point" (which I noticed on Tivo before watching it -- I had to do a double take). Perhaps the first time a go proverb has been the title of a TV show? On Nov 25, 2008, at 3:08 PM, Michael Williams wrote: You should be

Re: [computer-go] Skynet likes Go

2008-11-26 Thread Bob Hearn
On Nov 26, 2008, at 9:44 AM, Eric Dunham wrote: I just hope that these new players aren't thinking that Go is going to come up with the next killer AI and actually take some interest in the game. :) And let's hope they can do better than the terminator, and not play every stone in contac

[computer-go] Announcement: Many Faces vs. James Kerwin, 2/14

2009-02-06 Thread Bob Hearn
ty of Toronto More information on the AAAS meeting is available at http://www.aaas.org/meetings/ . Bob Hearn - Robert A. Hearn Neukom Institute for Computational Science, Dartmouth College rob

[computer-go] Poll: how long until computers are as strong as pros?

2009-02-12 Thread Bob Hearn
s in the Monte Carlo algorithms could gain some small number of stones in strength for fixed computation, but that would just shrink the 32 years by maybe a decade. Thanks, Bob Hearn - Robert A. Hearn Neukom Institute for Computational Scienc

[computer-go] Congratulations to David Fotland and Many Faces

2009-02-14 Thread Bob Hearn
will add some popular interest. Bob Hearn ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/

Re: [computer-go] Congratulations to David Fotland and Many Faces

2009-02-17 Thread Bob Hearn
On Feb 16, 2009, at 5:45 PM, Andy wrote: See attached a copy of the .sgf. It was played private on KGS so you can't get it there directly. One of the admins cloned it and I saved it off locally. I changed the result to be B+4.5 instead of W+2.5. Here is another copy of the game record, wit