Re: [Computer-go] longest 3x3 game

2016-02-21 Thread Ingo Althöfer
Hi John, very interesting. Is it allowed for players to pass in between? Do these passes count like normal moves? > Found a 582 move 3x3 game... Can you give us sgf? My intuition says that there should be a constant delta > 0 such that for all board sizes m x n (with m > 1, n > 1) there exist

Re: [Computer-go] Frisbee Go

2016-02-21 Thread David Doshay
Other disc games are golf and Ultimate, which is similar to soccer. Checkers seems like it would work, picking up one disc from the board and tossing it to the new location. As someone who has played disc golf for years, although Ultimate only twice, I’d rather see probabilities for nearest and

Re: [Computer-go] Frisbee Go

2016-02-21 Thread Ingo Althöfer
Hi all, > I don't remember if there was consensus, but can repeat my previous thoughts: > > > 1. What happens with plays unintentionally on top of stones or out of > > bounds? > > Converted to involuntary pass. Agree. > Note that a throw must have some positive probability of converting into

Re: [Computer-go] Frisbee X

2016-02-21 Thread Ingo Althöfer
> Are there other games played with frisbees? I can only name a few games that may naturally be played with frisbees: Hex Havannah Connect6 (Gobang) Yavalath (by Cameron Browne) Cheers, Ingo. ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org htt

Re: [Computer-go] longest 3x3 game

2016-02-21 Thread John Tromp
dear Darren, Ingo, > Again by random sampling? Yes, nothing fancy. > Are there certain moves(*) that bring games to an end earlier, or > certain moves(*) that make games go on longer? Would weighting them > appropriately in your random playouts help? You could try to weigh moves by how likely t

Re: [Computer-go] longest 3x3 game

2016-02-21 Thread Petr Baudis
Hi! On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 01:55:05PM -0500, John Tromp wrote: > > very interesting. Is it allowed for players > > to pass in between? Do these passes count like > > normal moves? > > Yes, passes are implied whenever two consecutively played stones > are of the same color. I'm wondering if

Re: [Computer-go] longest 3x3 game

2016-02-21 Thread Petr Baudis
On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 09:00:54PM +0100, Petr Baudis wrote: > I'm wondering if there's some framework for studying combinatoric > aspects of games that are not only technically Go, but also actually > resemble real Go games played by competent players? > > This research doesn't touch my heart