I'm spanish too. I'm investigating with evolutionay algorithms and MC in my
spare time. No results yet...
Regards,
Dani
2007/3/28, Álvaro Begué <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
On 3/28/07, Nick Wedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Angel
> \"Java\" Lopez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I would like to thank everyone who helped with the testing
of CGOS. As a result I was able to shake out several
bugs, many of which you discovered for me.
I aslo recieved many useful suggestions about feature
improvements or additions - many of which I will
implement either right away or at
Out of curiosity,
Is 88 the maximum number of pseuoliberties a string can have on 9x9?
(it should be safe to use only 6 bits in practice, if you need every last bit:)
regards,
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What is your policy for receiving/handling feature requests? Is there a
tracker (e.g. sourceforge) or a wiki page (e.g. senseis)? Or do we just
e-mail you directly?
On 3/29/07, Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I aslo recieved many useful suggestions about feature
improvements or addition
On 3/29/07, John Tromp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Is 88 the maximum number of pseuoliberties a string can have on 9x9?
Make that 89:-)
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For now, just email me directly. After CGOS is up and running, we
may do something more sophisticated.
There is something on senseis called CGOS wishlist, or something
like that - but most of those requests are very old and many if
not most of them have been implemented even in the old server.
After some trial and error, I got 90
* * * *
*
* * * *
* * * ***
* * *
*** * * *
* * * *
*
* * * *
On 3/29/07, John Tromp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 3/29/07, John Tromp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is 88 the maximum number of pseuoliberties a string can have on 9x9?
Ma
What's a pseudo-liberty? And how can there be more of them than there are
empty intersections (81) on the board?
- Original Message
From: Jason House <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: computer-go
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 1:02:01 PM
Subject: Re: [computer-go] Re: pseudoliberties
After some
It appears to me that at least 91 is possible:
.xx.x.xx.
xx.xxx.xx
.xx.x.xx.
xx.xxx.xx
.xx.x.xx.
xx.xxx.xx
.xx.x.xx.
xx.xxx.xx
.xxx.xxx.
Weston
On 3/29/07, Jason House <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
After some trial and error, I got 90
* * * *
*
* * * *
* * * ***
* * *
*** * * *
*
A pseudo-liberty is a pairing of a stone in the group and an adjacent,
empty intersection.
On 3/29/07, Jim O'Flaherty, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
What's a pseudo-liberty? And how can there be more of them than there are
empty intersections (81) on the board?
- Original Message
F
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007, Jim O'Flaherty, Jr. wrote:
What's a pseudo-liberty?
And how can there be more of them than there are empty intersections
(81) on the board?
It is the sum of all stone's liberties in a group; ignoring common
liberties.
Christoph
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On 3/29/07, Weston Markham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It appears to me that at least 91 is possible:
.xx.x.xx.
xx.xxx.xx
.xx.x.xx.
xx.xxx.xx
.xx.x.xx.
xx.xxx.xx
.xx.x.xx.
xx.xxx.xx
.xxx.xxx.
Nice! If you use O's instead like
.OO.O.OO.
OO.OOO.OO
.OO.O.OO.
OO.OOO.OO
.OO.O.OO.
OO.OOO.OO
.OO.O.OO
[If this is redundant, please excuse me. I'm wondering if I ran into some
kind of filter the last time I sent this.(?)]
Pseudoliberties, as someone here explained recently, are a count of how
many adjacent empty spaces a program would find around a chain of stones
if it didn't bother to correct f
Weston wrote:
> It appears to me that at least 91 is possible:
>
> .xx.x.xx.
> xx.xxx.xx
> .xx.x.xx.
> xx.xxx.xx
> .xx.x.xx.
> xx.xxx.xx
> .xx.x.xx.
> xx.xxx.xx
> .xxx.xxx.
Congratulations, you reached the maximum. Here are the maximum number of
pseudoliberties up to 13x13:
1x1 0
2x2
Pseudoliberties, as someone here explained recently, are a count of how
many adjacent empty spaces a program would find around a chain of stones
if it didn't bother to correct for how many times the same space gets
counted from different directions.
example
0 0 . .
X X 0 .
. X 0 .
. 0 . . The X's
Can someone please re-send that list of fast/small random number
generators? I can't seem to find it. Thanks.
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On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 14:29 -0400, John Tromp wrote:
> On 3/29/07, Weston Markham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > It appears to me that at least 91 is possible:
> >
> > .xx.x.xx.
> > xx.xxx.xx
> > .xx.x.xx.
> > xx.xxx.xx
> > .xx.x.xx.
> > xx.xxx.xx
> > .xx.x.xx.
> > xx.xxx.xx
> > .xxx.xxx.
>
> Nice
I think I may have sent that several months ago:
http://www.lns.cornell.edu/spr/1999-01/msg0014148.html
- Don
On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 14:55 -0400, Chris Fant wrote:
> Can someone please re-send that list of fast/small random number
> generators? I can't seem to find it. Thanks.
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On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 11:08 -0700, Jim O'Flaherty, Jr. wrote:
> What's a pseudo-liberty? And how can there be more of them than there
> are empty intersections (81) on the board?
That's why they are pseudo - they may not be real :-)
Actually, a pseduo-liberty is an actual liberty, but it can
be
On 3/29/07, John Tromp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 3/29/07, Weston Markham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It appears to me that at least 91 is possible:
Nice! If you use O's instead like
.OO.O.OO.
OO.OOO.OO
.OO.O.OO.
OO.OOO.OO
.OO.O.OO.
OO.OOO.OO
.OO.O.OO.
OO.OOO.OO
.OOO.OOO.
it looks pretty ar
I get 144 with a simple alternating pattern:
5 .O.O.O.O. 13
4 O.O.O.O.O 16
5 .O.O.O.O. 18
4 O.O.O.O.O 16
5 .O.O.O.O. 18
4 O.O.O.O.O 16
5 .O.O.O.O. 18
4 O.O.O.O.O 16
5 .O.O.O.O. 13
41 points 144
Fewer liberty points: 41 versus 54 in your pattern,
but more strings, hence more duplicate count
On 3/29/07, Weston Markham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 3/29/07, John Tromp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 3/29/07, Weston Markham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > It appears to me that at least 91 is possible:
> Nice! If you use O's instead like
>
> .OO.O.OO.
> OO.OOO.OO
> .OO.O.OO.
> OO.OOO.OO
I think it's supposed to be for a single string.
- Don
On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 12:26 -0700, Ken Friedenbach wrote:
> I get 144 with a simple alternating pattern:
>
> 5 .O.O.O.O. 13
> 4 O.O.O.O.O 16
> 5 .O.O.O.O. 18
> 4 O.O.O.O.O 16
> 5 .O.O.O.O. 18
> 4 O.O.O.O.O 16
> 5 .O.O.O.O. 18
> 4 O.O.O.O.O
On 3/29/07, John Tromp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 3/29/07, Weston Markham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 3/29/07, John Tromp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 3/29/07, Weston Markham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > It appears to me that at least 91 is possible:
> > Nice! If you use O's inste
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007, Ken Friedenbach wrote:
I get 144 with a simple alternating pattern:
This is not a single group!
Christoph
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> It's really a way to incrementally update liberties in a
> fast way - each stone keeps it's own count of liberties
> and it is summed - but of course it doesn't represent
> the true number of liberties since a point can get
> counted 2 or more times.However, if the count goes
> to zero, the
On 3/29/07, Christoph Birk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007, Jim O'Flaherty, Jr. wrote:
> What's a pseudo-liberty?
> And how can there be more of them than there are empty intersections
> (81) on the board?
It is the sum of all stone's liberties in a group; ignoring common
liberti
You can get it from ego library - file utils.cpp
Łukasz
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Arthur W Cater wrote:
It's really a way to incrementally update liberties in a
fast way - each stone keeps it's own count of liberties
and it is summed - but of course it doesn't represent
the true number of liberties since a point can get
counted 2 or more times.However, if the count goes
Once upon a time, I did analysis of the inaccuracy of pseudo liberties.
Searching quickly, I found:
http://computer-go.org/pipermail/computer-go/2005-October/003839.html
For any interested, I did come up with a variant of pseudo liberties
that was a lot closer to real liberties. My post about "l
As far as I know, pseudo-liberties are only used for detecting a
capture or detecting atari. If this method you suggest has some value
beyond that, then I'm interested to learn more about it. But the
I have a nice mathematical puzzle for you.
Fix some k, say, 81.
What is the smallest range N
Chris Fant wrote:
Once upon a time, I did analysis of the inaccuracy of pseudo liberties.
Searching quickly, I found:
http://computer-go.org/pipermail/computer-go/2005-October/003839.html
For any interested, I did come up with a variant of pseudo liberties
that was a lot closer to real liberties
> As far as I know, pseudo-liberties are only used for detecting a
> capture or detecting atari. If this method you suggest has some value
> beyond that, then I'm interested to learn more about it. But the
> message that you linked seems to leave out a lot of details. You give
> conclusions, bu
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