Hi,
After final 5 round, VisionGo won.
1st VisionGo 5-0
2nd RankaGo 3-2
3rd KataGo3-2
4th DaPangGo 3-2
5th ChaoRanGo 1-5
6th Kohada0-6
Ran Kat Vis Cha Koh Dap Wins Rank
RankaGo1 0 1 1 0 32
KataGo 0 0 1 1 1 33
VisionGo 1
Fine Art is very, very strong.
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From: Computer-go [mailto:computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf Of
Hiroshi Yamashita
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 10:38 PM
To: computer-go@computer-go.org
Subject: Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day
Final is
Fine Art vs Zen
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From: "Hiroshi Yamashita"
To:
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day
Final is
Fine
Final is
Fine Art vs Zen
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Dear Ingo,
Fine Art is developed by a team in Tencent, a big IT company at
Beijing, China. Fine Art has been running on Fox-Go, a Chinese
internet Go site, where many strong pros in China, Korea and
Japan are playing, including Ka Jie and Yuta Iyama. Fine Art
has beaten pros at about 90% in fast
Dear Ingo,
Fine Art is developed by a team in Tencent, a big IT company at
Beijing, China. Fine Art has been running on Fox-Go, a Chinese
internet Go site, where many strong pros in China, Korea and
Japan are playing, including Ka Jie and Yuta Iyama. Fine Art
has beaten pros at about 90% in fast
Hello,
in Germany's computer go forum, Tom (alias Bonobo) has posted two
Youtube links for games of the current UEC Cup:
FineArt vs. DeepZenGo: https://youtu.be/4uVaAVRhJxg
CrazyStone vs. FineArt: https://youtu.be/DwwseY2R_Oc
Cheers, Ingo.
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Dear Ingo,
Fine Art is developed by a team in Tencent, a big IT company at
Beijing, China. Fine Art has been running on Fox-Go, a Chinese
internet Go site, where many strong pros in China, Korea and
Japan are playing, including Ka Jie and Yuta Iyama. Fine Art
has beaten pros at about 90% in
Hi Darren,
thank you for the info.
So, is "Fine Art" the long-awaited Chinese dark rider
which had been announced already for the end of 2016?
Regards, Ingo.
> Gesendet: Samstag, 18. März 2017 um 20:02 Uhr
> Von: "Darren Cook"
>
> > Can you say something more on "Fine Art"?
> > From which co
> Can you say something more on "Fine Art"?
> From which country is it? Who is Tencent?
Tencent is a very big Chinese Internet company; it is described here as
the largest gaming company in the world:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tencent
Darren
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Dear Hiroshi,
thank you for your posting.
Can you say something more on "Fine Art"?
From which country is it? Who is Tencent?
Is the "UEC-Zen" version similar to the one that will play
in the World Championships next week?
Who is the team behind Rayn?
Questions over questions ...
exciting time
ubject: Re: [Computer-go] UEC Cup broadcast info
Individual games can be watched by logging-in the NNGS server
using some NNGS client program such as Jago. See official page
http://www.computer-go.jp/uec/public_html/eng/network.shtml for
the name of the server, which is global this year.
NB: Pl
Individual games can be watched by logging-in the NNGS server
using some NNGS client program such as Jago. See official page
http://www.computer-go.jp/uec/public_html/eng/network.shtml for
the name of the server, which is global this year.
NB: Please leave enough bandwidth for the entrants.
I have used TensorFlow to train a CNN that predicts the next move, with a
similar architecture to what others have used (1 layers of 5x5 convolutions
followed by 10 more layers of 3x3 convolutions, with 192 hidden units per
layer and ReLU activation functions) but with much simpler inputs. I found
Thanks for the very interesting replies, David, and Remi.
No-one is using TensorFlow, then? Any reason not to? (I'm just curious
because there looks to be a good Udacity DNN course
(https://www.udacity.com/course/deep-learning--ud730), which I was
considering, but it is using TensorFlow.)
Remi w
t him share it if he
wants to.
David
> -Original Message-
> From: Computer-go [mailto:computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf Of
> Darren Cook
> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 5:19 AM
> To: computer-go@computer-go.org
> Subject: *****SPAM* Re: [Computer-go] UE
David Fotland wrote:
> There are 12 programs here that have deep neural nets. 2 were not
> qualified for the second day, and six of them made the final 8. Many
> Faces has very basic DNN support, but it’s turned off because it
> isn’t making the program stronger yet. Only Dolburam and Many Faces
game (vs Zen) will be played with 2
> stones. #Not announced yet.
>
> Hideki
>
> >Thanks in advance, Ingo.
> >
> >
> >> Gesendet: Sonntag, 20. März 2016 um 07:41 Uhr
> >> Von: "Hiroshi Yamashita"
> >> An: computer-go@computer-go.org
+0900
From: "Hiroshi Yamashita"
To:
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Zen won against darkforest
1st Zen
2nd darkforest
3rd CrazyStone
4th Aya
Hiroshi Yamashita
the second game (vs Zen) will be played with 2
stones. #Not announced yet.
Hideki
>Thanks in advance, Ingo.
>
>
>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 20. März 2016 um 07:41 Uhr
>> Von: "Hiroshi Yamashita"
>> An: computer-go@computer-go.org
>> Betreff: Re: [Compute
inal result
>> 1st Zen
>> 2nd darkforest
>> 3rd CrazyStone
>> 4th Aya
>>
>>
>Are there any games available? (SGFs)?
>
>Regards,
>Pawel
>
>
>
>>
>> - Original Message - From: ""Ingo Althöfer"" <3-hirn-ve
gt;
> *From:* Computer-go [mailto:computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Pawel Morawiecki
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 20, 2016 1:57 AM
> *To:* computer-go@computer-go.org
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
> Final result
&
I have sgf’s of the Many Faces’ games, but I finished 8th. I don’t have the
top games.
From: Computer-go [mailto:computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf Of
Pawel Morawiecki
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 1:57 AM
To: computer-go@computer-go.org
Subject: Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day
There are 12 programs here that have deep neural nets. 2 were not qualified
for the second day, and six of them made the final 8. Many Faces has very
basic DNN support, but it’s turned off because it isn’t making the program
stronger yet. Only Dolburam and Many Faces don’t have DNN in the fin
sday.
>>
>> Will those games be transmitted on KGS?
>> Has it been decided alreay which handicap?
>>
>> Thanks in advance, Ingo.
>>
>>
>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 20. März 2016 um 07:41 Uhr
>>> Von: "Hiroshi Yamashita"
>&g
o Althöfer"" <3-hirn-ver...@gmx.de>
To:
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 4:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day
Hi Hiroshi,
thanks for the many updates.
On another site I read that the bits on rank 1 and 2 will
play exhibition matches against a pro player on
20. März 2016 um 07:41 Uhr
> Von: "Hiroshi Yamashita"
> An: computer-go@computer-go.org
> Betreff: Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day
>
> Zen won against darkforest
>
> 1st Zen
> 2nd darkforest
> 3rd Cra
Zen won against darkforest
1st Zen
2nd darkforest
3rd CrazyStone
4th Aya
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Zen won against CrazyStone.
darkforest won against Aya.
Final is Zen - darkforest
Hiroshi Yamashita
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To:
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 12:34 PM
Subject: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day
darkforest won against CGI.
CrazyStone won against D
Today's tournament table is
https://twitter.com/math26/status/711190391098187776
(Thanks Shinoda-san).
Holmes got Originality award. Holmes does both Policy Network and playout
on 8 GPUs. Playouts are done by 256 mini-batches. 256 playouts are
executed simultaneously.
Thanks,
Hiroshi Yamashita
We are updating our page: http://aigames.nctu.edu.tw/~icwu/CGI.html.
The current version in UEC is CGI 2.0 (or DeepCGI) as described in this
page (also including the contributors).
The main contribution for Amigo (nothing to do with nicego) is to design a
general MCTS framework that many game pro
r"" <3-hirn-ver...@gmx.de>
To:
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 11:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 1st day result
Hello Hiroshi,
thanks for the information.
WHo are the peolbe behind CGI Go?
Which hardware is used by the top participants in UEC cup?
Ingo.
Gesendet: Sams
On 19 March 2016 at 14:40, "Ingo Althöfer" <3-hirn-ver...@gmx.de> wrote:
> Hello Hiroshi,
>
> thanks for the information.
>
> WHo are the peolbe behind CGI Go?
>
> According to http://computer-go.info/db/oprog.php?a=CGI :
Written by: Wu, I-Chen & Wu, Ti-Rong & Chen, Guan-Wen & Shih, Chung-Chin &
I think they are
https://github.com/CGI-LAB
http://www.aigames.nctu.edu.tw/
e.g. NiceGo, Amigo programs in the past.
I'm curious if they are mainly reimplementing the AlphaGo paper or doing
something else.
On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 03:40:06PM +0100, "Ingo Althöfer" wrote:
> Hello
Hello Hiroshi,
thanks for the information.
WHo are the peolbe behind CGI Go?
Which hardware is used by the top participants in UEC cup?
Ingo.
> Gesendet: Samstag, 19. März 2016 um 14:32 Uhr
> Von: "Hiroshi Yamashita"
> An: computer-go@computer-go.org
> Betreff: [Computer-go] UEC cup 1st day r
http://jsb.cs.uec.ac.jp/~igo/eng/result1.html
On 19 mars 2016, at 23:10, James Guo wrote:
> Show the official web site link?
> From: Hiroshi Yamashita
> To: computer-go@computer-go.org
> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 9:32 PM
> Subject: [Computer-go] UEC cup 1st day result
>
> There are 32 pa
Show the official web site link?
From: Hiroshi Yamashita
To: computer-go@computer-go.org
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 9:32 PM
Subject: [Computer-go] UEC cup 1st day result
There are 32 participants, include one guest GNU GO.
After 7 swiss round,
1st CGI 7-0
2nd CrazyStone 6
Computer Go progress has stopped?
http://www.sankei.com/life/news/150323/lif1503230014-n1.html
Cho Chikun plays computer with handicaps game.
http://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXMZO84490320X10C15A300/
Cho Chikun, a win, a lose against computer.
http://dd.hokkaido-np.co.jp/entertainment/igo-shogi/
Hi,
Some Japanese newspaper wrote articles about densei-sen.
Computer Go progress has stopped?
http://www.sankei.com/life/news/150323/lif1503230014-n1.html
Cho Chikun plays computer with handicaps game.
http://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXMZO84490320X10C15A300/
Cho Chikun, a win, a lose against
Hi!
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 09:47:43AM +0100, Petr Baudis wrote:
> A few blurry photos I took:
>
>
> http://pasky-jp.soup.io/post/556768169/UEC-Cup-2015-exhibition-game-was-between
>
> http://pasky-jp.soup.io/post/556769031/The-prize-winners-Right-of-Remi-is
> http://pasky-j
> > DolBaram won the 4-handicap game against Cho Chikun 9p!
>
> ..but unfortunately, CrazyStone lost the 3-handicap game against
> Cho Chikun. It made a dubious choice in the opening, but my guess
> is that more importantly, a corner semeai with approach liberty was
> left in one corner throughout
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 07:00:02AM +0100, Petr Baudis wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 06:37:14PM +0900, Rémi Coulom wrote:
> > Tomorrow, the handicap will be 4 stones for DolBaram, and 3 stones for
> > Crazy Stone.
>
> DolBaram won the 4-handicap game against Cho Chikun 9p!
..but unfortunately,
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 06:37:14PM +0900, Rémi Coulom wrote:
> Tomorrow, the handicap will be 4 stones for DolBaram, and 3 stones for Crazy
> Stone.
DolBaram won the 4-handicap game against Cho Chikun 9p!
Petr Baudis
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Here is a partial game record I saved during the game. I am sorry I did not
save the full game as sgf. It is on the nngs server of the UEC, so I might be
able to get it tomorrow.
Crazy Stone invaded too deeply, and died.
Thank you Rémi!
That was a very surprising game. I would have sworn tha
What an unfortunate game against the human opponent. The trouble started
early with the tight low pincer at move 12.
The way black could press down on that move is what created the incentive
for CS to play the totally unreasonable invasion on the right a little
later.
Stefan
On Mon, Mar 16, 201
Hi Hideki,
2015-03-16 11:34 GMT+00:00 Hideki Kato :
>
> #So far, Zen often lost territory and built thickness in early stages
> and revesed in hte middle. However, rivals are quickly getting stronger
> while top two are almost standing :-( these a few years, it's also
> getting harder to reverse.
Dear Hikedi,
thank you for the insight. I stand corrected. Also thank you for the SGF
file.
Cheers
Lukas
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Hideki Kato
wrote:
> Lukasz,
>
> They are not newcomers. See KGS Annual championship ranking, for
> example. Nomitan and DolBaram have KGS rank 3d and 5d
Lukasz,
They are not newcomers. See KGS Annual championship ranking, for
example. Nomitan and DolBaram have KGS rank 3d and 5d, resp. in blitz
games.
#DolBaram registered last UEC Cup but didn't come to the venue :D
The reason Zen lost against Nomitan was, as far as I've studied, just
a ha
As for the game records in the UEC Cup, we are checking them manually
because there are some garbage in the
SGF files saved by the NNGS server. It will take several days to clear
them all to publish on our Web page. Sorry.
By the way, as a side information, Sakakibara kun is a 7d in Tygem.
Best
Here is a partial game record I saved during the game. I am sorry I did not
save the full game as sgf. It is on the nngs server of the UEC, so I might be
able to get it tomorrow.
Crazy Stone invaded too deeply, and died.
Tomorrow, the handicap will be 4 stones for DolBaram, and 3 stones for Cra
2015-03-16 17:47 GMT+09:00 Petr Baudis :
>
> I got the impression that O Meien is part of the GoTrend team.
> Is that correct? Does anyone know any details about GoTrend?
> (Is it a university or commercial project? Any interesting algorithms?)
>
Yes, he is. In fact, O Meien sensei and Shi-Jim Y
Thank you for the frequent updates and the pictures.
I am most curious to learn why it is that Zen, who usually ends up very
high in these competitions, has been defeated by two newcomers in the
field. What are Dolbaram and Nomitam doing differently?...
Cheers
Lukas
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 9:58
UEC student won a exhibition game against CrazyStone without handicap.
Thank you for keeping us in touch, Hiroshi!
Sad for Zen, nice for Nomitan and nice to see Dolbaram in the finals. It
will be interesting to see it play a pro.
Do you know if there is a kifu for the game between CS and the st
A few blurry photos I took:
http://pasky-jp.soup.io/post/556768169/UEC-Cup-2015-exhibition-game-was-between
http://pasky-jp.soup.io/post/556769031/The-prize-winners-Right-of-Remi-is
http://pasky-jp.soup.io/post/556769152/All-qualified-participants
Thank you Petr,
So y
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 03:06:52PM +0900, Hiroshi Yamashita wrote:
> CrazyStone won.
>
> 1. CrazyStone
> 2. DolBaram
> 3. Aya
> 4. Nomitan
> 5. Zen
> 6. Go Trend
>
> Go Trend is a new Taiwan's program.
> Go Trend team has 7 people and they all visit here.
A few blurry photos I took:
ht
On 3/15/15 12:39 AM, Hiroshi Yamashita wrote:
UEC student won a exhibition game against CrazyStone without handicap.
Hiroshi Yamashita
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Hi Hiroshi,
thank you for keeping us informed!
In particular nice to see that there is fresh
computer go blood in Taiwan.
Ingo.
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 15. März 2015 um 08:39 Uhr
> Von: "Hiroshi Yamashita"
> An: computer-go@computer-go.org
> Betreff: Re: [Computer-go] UEC C
UEC student won a exhibition game against CrazyStone without handicap.
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CrazyStone won.
1. CrazyStone
2. DolBaram
3. Aya
4. Nomitan
5. Zen
6. Go Trend
Go Trend is a new Taiwan's program.
Go Trend team has 7 people and they all visit here.
Hiroshi Yamashita
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http://c
Final is
CrazyStone - DolBaram
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Nomitan beats Zen!!!
semei final is
CrazyStone - Aya
Nomitan - DolBaram
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Internet broadcasting on Niconico:
http://live.nicovideo.jp/gate/lv211968911 (UEC Cup)
http://live.nicovideo.jp/gate/lv212072907 (Densei-sen)
#You have to be a member (free) to watch.
Hideki
Martin Mueller: <41c2be7d-4800-4e7f-9145-f82c7abb5...@ualberta.ca>:
>The 8th UEC Cup will start in a few h
I hope DolBaram has a good showing this year. Probably the most
promising contender gunning for Zen and CrazyStone.
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 8:32 PM, Martin Mueller wrote:
> The 8th UEC Cup will start in a few hours. The top two programs get to play
> Cho Chikun on the 17th of March in Densei-sen.
Of course it would be nice to have a standardized ELO based system so
that you can compare ratings directly. But this seems unlikely to
happen on purpose. The way it could happen is if some organization
becomes the defacto standard due to popularity - but I don't think that
has happened even in
Michael:
Let's say that active Pros should have 2800+, though players
with 2750+
might still be professional strength.
I think by that definition there would be many players with a professional rank
who wouldn't have professional s
Shunsuke SOEDA: <7ca74f090812180133w3fbf7820g7dac320fded34...@mail.gmail.com>:
>Thank you for your suggestion David.
>
>On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:48 PM, David Fotland
>wrote:
>> One option is to reduce the time limit from 40 minutes to 30 minutes to add
>> another round. You can seed a swiss co
Thank you for your suggestion David.
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:48 PM, David Fotland wrote:
> One option is to reduce the time limit from 40 minutes to 30 minutes to add
> another round. You can seed a swiss competition so it is likely that the
> best programs will meet in the last round.
Well,
17, 2008 12:27 PM
> To: computer-go
> Subject: Re: Results of the 2nd UEC Cup (Re: [computer-go] UEC cup)
>
> I put some photos.
> http://yssaya.web.fc2.com/photo/uec2008/uec2008.html
> Kato's eight PlayStation 3 was impressive.
> http://yssaya.web.fc2.com/photo/uec2008
go.org [mailto:computer-go-
> boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf Of Shunsuke SOEDA
> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 6:39 PM
> To: computer-go
> Subject: Re: Results of the 2nd UEC Cup (Re: [computer-go] UEC cup)
>
> Kato-san, David,
>
> I am a staff of the UEC Cup.
>
> On W
Hi Shun,
Shunsuke SOEDA: <7ca74f090812171839p61b96bfdu3d9633951e651...@mail.gmail.com>:
>Kato-san, David,
>PS.
>> Also, this style, Swiss for the preliminary and single-elimination for
>> the final, is common in Japan. World Computer Shogi Championship uses
>> the same style for example.
>Uhmm,
Kato-san, David,
I am a staff of the UEC Cup.
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Hideki Kato wrote:
> David Fotland: <00ca01c95fa2$5ee6bb50$1cb431...@com>:
>>Is it true that the final was a single elimination tournament, and not a
>>Swiss tournament? It seems that Many Faces never played Fudo Go
Mark Boon wrote:
All the examples given to support the argument either way are at best
anecdotal. But looking at the EGF ranking list, the 7-dan players are
interspersed with players of professional ranks, with very few 6 dans
among them. That is based on a considerable amount of data. Maybe you
Congratulations Rémi for the two-year win at UEC Cup and two wins
against Aoba 4p with 8 and 7 stones handicap.
Fudo Go was improved almost nothing since Beijing other than
additional six Playstation 3 consoles due to short of time or writing
thesis.
I'll have enough time and be able to improve F
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Michael Goetze wrote:
> this is actually a rather complicated topic because you can have different
> definitions for "professional strength". For instance, I could make an
> argument that S. Shikshina 3p does not have "professional strength", AFAIK
> she did not be
d professional strength is
actually a gray area and 7d EGF is an indication of being in that area.
Dave
Van: computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org namens Michael Goetze
Verzonden: wo 17-12-2008 21:39
Aan: computer-go
Onderwerp: Re: [computer-go] UEC cup
Hi Mark
Hi Mark,
I'm not claiming to be an authority on the matter, but I beg to
differ. Name me an EGF 7-dan that's not professional level. And then
explain how come they are listed among players that are anywhere from
1p to 5p in different Asian countries. I used to be an EGF 6-dan and
have beaten top
I put some photos.
http://yssaya.web.fc2.com/photo/uec2008/uec2008.html
Kato's eight PlayStation 3 was impressive.
http://yssaya.web.fc2.com/photo/uec2008/1213/Htmls/PICT2802.html
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dave.de...@planet.nl wrote:
What you are saying is that many professionals are overrated or
underrated (sometimes by as much as two stones).
No, what I'm saying is that professional ranking systems are not meant
to be rating systems and should not be treated as if they were rating
systems. (A
...@planet.nl
Verzonden: wo 17-12-2008 20:48
Aan: computer-go
Onderwerp: RE: [computer-go] UEC cup
I think a 7 stone handicap against a 4p would be normal for an EGF 1d, not for
a japanese 1d.
A japanese 1d is about 3k EGF. He would require more than 9 stones.
Dave
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Onderwerp: Re: [computer-go] UEC cup
>> No one mentioned Korean professionals. But, as far as I know, a Japanese
>> 7p should be able to give a Japanese 1p 2 stones and win 50% of the
>> time. Roughly.
>
> I don't agree. Japanese Professinals'
.
Van: computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org namens Michael Goetze
Verzonden: wo 17-12-2008 20:26
Aan: computer-go
Onderwerp: Re: [computer-go] UEC cup
Nick Wedd wrote:
> So what _is_ reality nowadays? Your previous email did not make this
> clear. Are Japane
In message <49494ba4.7070...@mgoetze.net>, Michael Goetze
writes
Darren Cook wrote:
Are we talking about different things? All I meant to say was that I
thought in Japanese professional ranks that one rank is worth a third of
a handicap stone. So when there are 6 ranks difference then two handi
Nick Wedd wrote:
So what _is_ reality nowadays? Your previous email did not make this
clear. Are Japanese pro grades now closer together than a third of a
stone, or farther apart?
The reality is that the correlation between ranks and playing strengths
is very low, and that knowing that play
Darren Cook wrote:
Are we talking about different things? All I meant to say was that I
thought in Japanese professional ranks that one rank is worth a third of
a handicap stone. So when there are 6 ranks difference then two handicap
stones should give an even game.
Yes, we're talking about the
To: computer-go
> Subject: Re: Results of the 2nd UEC Cup (Re: [computer-go] UEC cup)
>
> David Fotland wrote:
> > Congratulations to Remi for Crazystone's second UEC cup victory, and
solid
> > win over a professional.
> >
> > David
> >
> Thank you Davi
David Fotland wrote:
Congratulations to Remi for Crazystone's second UEC cup victory, and solid
win over a professional.
David
Thank you David.
For some reason, games between Crazy Stone and MFG are always
complicated and exciting. I watched a few when we were playing on CGOS,
and they we
16, 2008 4:16 AM
> To: computer-go
> Subject: Results of the 2nd UEC Cup (Re: [computer-go] UEC cup)
>
> Official results (only Japanese right now) are at:
> http://jsb.cs.uec.ac.jp/~igo/2008/result.html (first day)
> http://jsb.cs.uec.ac.jp/~igo/2008/result2.html (sec
jonas.k...@math.u-psud.fr wrote:
Although Tei and Aoba Professionals explained the match at the
front stage with a projection, the game was so complicated that I
couldn't see which is winning until near the end. Another semi-final
match, my Fudo Go vs Katsunari, also was shown on the screen but
Although Tei and Aoba Professionals explained the match at the
front stage with a projection, the game was so complicated that I
couldn't see which is winning until near the end. Another semi-final
match, my Fudo Go vs Katsunari, also was shown on the screen but in a
small picture at upper right
,
>
>David
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org [mailto:computer-go-
>> boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf Of Hideki Kato
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 4:16 AM
>> To: computer-go
>> Subject: Results of the 2n
Darren Cook: <49485a64.5080...@dcook.org>:
>>> No one mentioned Korean professionals. But, as far as I know, a Japanese
>>> 7p should be able to give a Japanese 1p 2 stones and win 50% of the
>>> time. Roughly.
>>
>> I don't agree. Japanese Professinals' ranks never decrease.
>
>Hi,
>Are we tal
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Michael Goetze wrote:
> I wish people would stop spreading such incorrect information. The
> correlation between professional ranks and playing strength is quite bad,
> and EGF 7dans are not, generally speaking, professional strength.
I'm not claiming to be an aut
>> No one mentioned Korean professionals. But, as far as I know, a Japanese
>> 7p should be able to give a Japanese 1p 2 stones and win 50% of the
>> time. Roughly.
>
> I don't agree. Japanese Professinals' ranks never decrease.
Hi,
Are we talking about different things? All I meant to say was
Darren Cook: <49483abe.9070...@dcook.org>:
>> If you find a Japanese 7p who can give a Korean 1p 2 stones and win, I
>> will eat my hat...
>
>No one mentioned Korean professionals. But, as far as I know, a Japanese
>7p should be able to give a Japanese 1p 2 stones and win 50% of the
>time. Roughly.
> If you find a Japanese 7p who can give a Korean 1p 2 stones and win, I
> will eat my hat...
No one mentioned Korean professionals. But, as far as I know, a Japanese
7p should be able to give a Japanese 1p 2 stones and win 50% of the
time. Roughly.
Darren
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Darren Cook, Software Researcher/D
dave.de...@planet.nl wrote:
Also, a 4p is not a 7p. The difference should be about one stone. 4p is
equivalent to 8d EGF.
I wish people would stop spreading such incorrect information. The
correlation between professional ranks and playing strength is quite
bad, and EGF 7dans are not, general
ent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 4:16 AM
> To: computer-go
> Subject: Results of the 2nd UEC Cup (Re: [computer-go] UEC cup)
>
> Official results (only Japanese right now) are at:
> http://jsb.cs.uec.ac.jp/~igo/2008/result.html (first day)
> http://jsb.cs.uec.ac.jp/~igo/2008/result2.h
Official results (only Japanese right now) are at:
http://jsb.cs.uec.ac.jp/~igo/2008/result.html (first day)
http://jsb.cs.uec.ac.jp/~igo/2008/result2.html (second day; final)
1. Crazy Stone (invited, first seed)
2. Fudo Go
3. Many Faces of Go
4. Katsunari(second seed)
5. Aya (fourth
Hideki Kato: <494641e9.9402%hideki_ka...@ybb.ne.jp>:
>My last paper on parallel MCTS has no description about the
>implementation for Cell BE. I'll submit longer paper in this
>month but if you want to know the detail of my implementation now, you
>can have the source code of Fudo-Go-2nd-UEC-
Go Fast: :
>Kato, have you compared the speed of the simulations on PS3 SPE to the speed
>of the simulations on PC, given that the program is optimized for the cpu on
>both sides.
I've published the comparison in "A Study on Implementing Parallel
MC/UCT Algorithm" (in Japanese)
http://www.geociti
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