Re: [computer-go] So many MoGo run on cgos 9x9

2007-10-11 Thread terry mcintyre
From: Christopher Rosin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Christopher, Thanks for your explanation of greenpeep! > - Biasing playouts by patterns is much better than unbiased playouts > - Playouts using self-play patterns together with MoGo-style move > preferences (favor defensive moves and captures, as wel

Re: [computer-go] So many MoGo run on cgos 9x9

2007-10-11 Thread Hideki Kato
Hi greenpeep aka chris, My program GGMC Go ver. 2, rated around 2000 ELO now, runs abut 25k playouts/s on 4-core box and do 360k playouts/move at most on cgos (and last KGS tournament as well). It's based on MoGo's first report, though its framework is different. # I'll add some features but h

Re: [computer-go] So many MoGo run on cgos 9x9

2007-10-11 Thread Christopher Rosin
Hi - yes, that is me, and greenpeep is my program. About 10 years ago I worked on coevolution applied to Go, but greenpeep is an entirely new program based on UCT. I think the greenpeep is mostly similar to what some other people are doing with UCT, and I'm using it to test ideas. greenpeep uses

Re: [computer-go] So many MoGo run on cgos 9x9

2007-10-11 Thread terry mcintyre
This may be the same Chris Rosin: http://www.cs.wisc.edu/areas/ai/aisem/abstracts/1995.2.summer/rosin.html http://www-cse.ucsd.edu/users/crosin/ Other than the senseis.xmp reference, I have been able to google nothing about greenpeep. Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Original Message

Re: [computer-go] So many MoGo run on cgos 9x9

2007-10-11 Thread Olivier Teytaud
There is no restriction on how many mogo bots can run. However, there is not much of a point if everyone is just running the same bot unless they are running at different levels and we can see exactly how they are set up. We have launched 4 mogos, and I explain here what is tested: - mogo1threa

Re: [computer-go] So many MoGo run on cgos 9x9

2007-10-07 Thread Don Dailey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 There is no restriction on how many mogo bots can run. However, there is not much of a point if everyone is just running the same bot unless they are running at different levels and we can see exactly how they are set up. - - Don Hideki Kato wrote:

Re: [computer-go] So many MoGo run on cgos 9x9

2007-10-07 Thread Hideki Kato
Hi Olivier, Thanks a lot. (^^)/ # A Japanese face mark. Smiling with left hand up. No need to rotate your head, like this :-). -gg Olivier Teytaud: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> There are many variants of MoGo run on CGOS 9x9 >>> now # http://cgos.boardspace.net/9x9/standings.html > >Hello all; >

Re: [computer-go] So many MoGo run on cgos 9x9

2007-10-06 Thread Hideki Kato
Hi Olivier, Thanks a lot. (^^)/ # A Japanese face mark. Smiling with left hand up. No need to rotate your head, like this :-). -gg Olivier Teytaud: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> There are many variants of MoGo run on CGOS 9x9 >>> now # http://cgos.boardspace.net/9x9/standings.html > >Hello all; >

Re: [computer-go] So many MoGo run on cgos 9x9

2007-10-06 Thread Olivier Teytaud
There are many variants of MoGo run on CGOS 9x9 now # http://cgos.boardspace.net/9x9/standings.html Hello all; I remove most of the mogos now. Olivier ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinf

Re: [computer-go] So many MoGo run on cgos 9x9

2007-10-06 Thread Hideki Kato
Thank you Don, Don Dailey: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA1 > >I don't have any reason to believe there is a problem.The rating >system is not based on how well you do against the anchor player, it's >just a device to prevent long-term rating drift. If the

Re: [computer-go] So many MoGo run on cgos 9x9

2007-10-06 Thread Don Dailey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I don't have any reason to believe there is a problem.The rating system is not based on how well you do against the anchor player, it's just a device to prevent long-term rating drift. If the pool of players were to inflate or deflate for any rea

[computer-go] So many MoGo run on cgos 9x9

2007-10-06 Thread Hideki Kato
Hi Don and all, There are many variants of MoGo run on CGOS 9x9 now # http://cgos.boardspace.net/9x9/standings.html I guess they force confuse the rating system because MoGo is the strongest, programs have a match more frequently against MoGo than anchors and get rating decrease in average.