RE: [computer-go] Re: fuego strength

2009-07-01 Thread David Fotland
ter-go.org [mailto:computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf Of Don Dailey Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 4:55 AM To: computer-go Subject: Re: [computer-go] Re: fuego strength It is working. That is pretty odd that it would not get scheduled. As for the new server, I want to do a test

Re: [computer-go] Re: fuego strength

2009-07-01 Thread Don Dailey
anyFaces, so after a few hours I killed it. > > David > > > -Original Message- > > From: computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org [mailto:computer-go- > > boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Lavergne > > Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 12:22 AM > > To: c

RE: [computer-go] Re: fuego strength

2009-06-30 Thread David Fotland
> -Original Message- > From: computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org [mailto:computer-go- > boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Lavergne > Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 12:22 AM > To: computer-go > Subject: Re: [computer-go] Re: fuego strength > > On Wed, Jun 24,

Re: [computer-go] Re: fuego strength

2009-06-30 Thread Thomas Lavergne
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:39:05PM -0400, Jason House wrote: > That raises an interesting point. I've also put bots up in a setup and > forget scenario, but inevitably the bit is off of CGOS within a few days > and I had no idea when it went down. > > What's the right way to solve this issue so

Re: [computer-go] Re: fuego strength

2009-06-30 Thread Don Dailey
There is no provision as such - but it could be added externally. I briefly considered making authors register their bots in a separate step and that would have been the natural place to add this.But I decided against adding extra procedure. So I will put this on the wish-list of things to ad

Re: [computer-go] Re: fuego strength

2009-06-24 Thread Jason House
Will the new server handle small description strings about the bots? It'd be great if we could provide/lookup basic data on bots. Example data would be a homepage or a 1-2 sentence summary. For example "John Smith's experimental Fuego 0.4 with heavy playout for reading semeai" Sent from my

Re: [computer-go] Re: fuego strength

2009-06-24 Thread Michael Williams
une 24, 2009 5:55 AM To: computer-go; Don Dailey Subject: Re: [computer-go] Re: fuego strength On 9x9 I have been worrying of the lack of strong anchors but not enough to complain about. What I think is more important is that stronger programs are actually active on CGOS for longer periods of time. I tr

Re: [computer-go] Re: fuego strength

2009-06-24 Thread Christian Nentwich
omputer-go.org [mailto:computer-go- boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf Of Magnus Persson Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 5:55 AM To: computer-go; Don Dailey Subject: Re: [computer-go] Re: fuego strength On 9x9 I have been worrying of the lack of strong anchors but not enough to complain about. What I

Re: [computer-go] Re: fuego strength

2009-06-24 Thread Michael Williams
ay, June 24, 2009 5:55 AM To: computer-go; Don Dailey Subject: Re: [computer-go] Re: fuego strength On 9x9 I have been worrying of the lack of strong anchors but not enough to complain about. What I think is more important is that stronger programs are actually active on CGOS for longer periods of ti

Re: [computer-go] Re: fuego strength

2009-06-24 Thread Jason House
e carlo programs, so it's more likely to expose bugs in the monte carlo programs. David -Original Message- From: computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org [mailto:computer-go- boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf Of Hideki Kato Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 5:15 PM To: computer-go Subject: [computer-go]

Re: [computer-go] Re: fuego strength

2009-06-24 Thread Michael Williams
: computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org [mailto:computer-go- boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf Of Hideki Kato Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 5:15 PM To: computer-go Subject: [computer-go] Re: fuego strength I'm running Fatman1, GNU Go and GNU Go MC version for 9x9 and two instances of GNU Go for 1

RE: [computer-go] Re: fuego strength

2009-06-24 Thread David Fotland
..@computer-go.org [mailto:computer-go- > boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf Of Magnus Persson > Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 5:55 AM > To: computer-go; Don Dailey > Subject: Re: [computer-go] Re: fuego strength > > On 9x9 I have been worrying of the lack of strong anchors but n

Re: [computer-go] Re: fuego strength

2009-06-24 Thread Magnus Persson
idly. Also it has a different style than the monte carlo programs, so it's more likely to expose bugs in the monte carlo programs. David > -Original Message- > From: computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org [mailto:computer-go- > boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf Of Hideki

Re: [computer-go] Re: fuego strength

2009-06-24 Thread Don Dailey
>> >> I think it's best to use an anchor that's not under active development. I >> like gnugo since there is lots of published results against it, and it is >> not changing rapidly. Also it has a different style than the monte carlo >> programs, so it's

[computer-go] Re: fuego strength

2009-06-24 Thread Brian Sheppard
The discussion seems to be heading to a consensus: to use a single program to anchor the rating system, and it is best to keep the anchors that we currently use. Additionally, we want a bunch of more-or-less fixed, more-or-less standard programs that cover as wide a range as possible, and it is id

Re: [computer-go] Re: fuego strength

2009-06-23 Thread Christian Nentwich
ssage- > From: computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org <mailto:computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org> [mailto:computer-go- <mailto:computer-go-> > boun...@computer-go.org <mailto:boun...@computer-go.org>] On Behalf Of Hideki Kato > Sent: Tuesday, June 23,

Re: [computer-go] Re: fuego strength

2009-06-23 Thread Don Dailey
ilto:computer-go- > > boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf Of Hideki Kato > > Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 5:15 PM > > To: computer-go > > Subject: [computer-go] Re: fuego strength > > > > I'm running Fatman1, GNU Go and GNU Go MC version for 9x9 and two

Re: [computer-go] Re: fuego strength

2009-06-23 Thread Don Dailey
If I were to change anchors I would of course carefully calibrate them. But I don't see that fuego is stronger than Gnugo at the low CPU levels I was hoping to run at. So there is no compelling reason right now to change anchors. - Don On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Michael Williams < michae

[computer-go] Re: fuego strength

2009-06-23 Thread Martin Mueller
I agree with keeping the GnuGo anchor. My understanding is that Don wanted to bundle one or more fast programs with the server, so that some opponents would always be available. But I think that the rating of bundled programs should not be fixed. Right now we're relying on volunteers to p

RE: [computer-go] Re: fuego strength

2009-06-23 Thread David Fotland
se bugs in the monte carlo programs. David > -Original Message- > From: computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org [mailto:computer-go- > boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf Of Hideki Kato > Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 5:15 PM > To: computer-go > Subject: [computer-go] Re: fuego st

Re: [computer-go] Re: fuego strength

2009-06-23 Thread Michael Williams
If it were me, I'd run all anchor candidates against the current CGOS to determine the anchor value to use for that anchor candidate. Hideki Kato wrote: I'm running Fatman1, GNU Go and GNU Go MC version for 9x9 and two instances of GNU Go for 13x13, five programs in total, on a dual-core Athl

[computer-go] Re: fuego strength

2009-06-23 Thread Hideki Kato
I'm running Fatman1, GNU Go and GNU Go MC version for 9x9 and two instances of GNU Go for 13x13, five programs in total, on a dual-core Athlon at home. I strongly believe current anchors are resource friendly enough for older pentium 3, 4 or even Celeron processors and not necessary being chan