Re: [computer-go] KGS connection

2007-11-12 Thread Nick Wedd
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chris Fant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Do you know of any reasons why it would not be granted to the program author? 1. The admin considering granting it is not fully certain that the bot account is indeed controlled by the program author. 2. The program is ver

Re: [computer-go] KGS connection

2007-11-11 Thread Stuart A. Yeates
On 11/11/2007, Alain Baeckeroot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le dimanche 11 novembre 2007, Stuart A. Yeates a écrit: > > Such a metric would actually benefit all players, by encouraging them > > to play as many different other players as possible and avoid the > > formation of player cliques. One

Re: [computer-go] KGS connection

2007-11-11 Thread steve uurtamo
> i suspect most people plays always at a certain time of the day, in their > timezone, so currently there might be 3 "cliques": Asia, Europe, and Americas. there are also two other cliques: blitz and non-blitz. watching a randomly chosen game among very strong players on kgs, most will be blit

Re: [computer-go] KGS connection

2007-11-11 Thread Alain Baeckeroot
Le dimanche 11 novembre 2007, Stuart A. Yeates a écrit : > On 10/11/2007, Nick Wedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > Chris Fant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > > >> A beginner could easily run gnugo for a day or two, get a 7k rank for > > >> the > > >> gnugo account

Re: [computer-go] KGS connection

2007-11-11 Thread Stuart A. Yeates
On 10/11/2007, Nick Wedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Chris Fant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > >> A beginner could easily run gnugo for a day or two, get a 7k rank for the > >> gnugo account, then replace gnugo with an account that moves randomly for a > >> few mov

Re: [computer-go] KGS connection

2007-11-10 Thread Chris Fant
Ok, I see what you are saying now. On 11/10/07, Nick Wedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Chris Fant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > >> A beginner could easily run gnugo for a day or two, get a 7k rank for the > >> gnugo account, then replace gnugo with an account that

Re: [computer-go] KGS connection

2007-11-10 Thread Nick Wedd
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chris Fant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes A beginner could easily run gnugo for a day or two, get a 7k rank for the gnugo account, then replace gnugo with an account that moves randomly for a few moves then resigns. Play this new robot as white with handicap 6, and yo

Re: [computer-go] KGS connection

2007-11-10 Thread Chris Fant
> A beginner could easily run gnugo for a day or two, get a 7k rank for the > gnugo account, then replace gnugo with an account that moves randomly for a > few moves then resigns. Play this new robot as white with handicap 6, and > you will soon get a dan-level account. On the surface, that sound

Re: [computer-go] KGS connection

2007-11-10 Thread William Shubert
On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 10:13 -0800, Christoph Birk wrote: > What is the reasoing behind not rating bots? > > Christoph A beginner could easily run gnugo for a day or two, get a 7k rank for the gnugo account, then replace gnugo with an account that moves randomly for a few moves then resigns. Play

Re: [computer-go] KGS connection

2007-11-09 Thread Jason House
On Nov 9, 2007 1:06 PM, Chris Fant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you know of any reasons why it would not be granted to the program > author? > It may be possible to have a request slip through the cracks. I've submitted e-mail requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and gotten no response. Back in the

Re: [computer-go] KGS connection

2007-11-09 Thread Christoph Birk
On Fri, 9 Nov 2007, Nick Wedd wrote: Running a _rated_ bot on KGS is another matter. This requires active intervention by an admin, which is unlikely to be granted. While your bot is unrated, it won't be able to play any rated games, and won't acquire a rating. What is the reasoing behind n

Re: [computer-go] KGS connection

2007-11-09 Thread Chris Fant
Do you know of any reasons why it would not be granted to the program author? On Nov 9, 2007 12:53 PM, Nick Wedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Chris Fant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > >Unlikely to be granted? I assume you mean only if you are not the > >program au

Re: [computer-go] KGS connection

2007-11-09 Thread Nick Wedd
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chris Fant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Unlikely to be granted? I assume you mean only if you are not the program author? It is more likely to be granted if you can convince them that you are the author; but by no means certain. I don't know what the guidelines

Re: [computer-go] KGS connection

2007-11-09 Thread Chris Fant
Unlikely to be granted? I assume you mean only if you are not the program author? On Nov 9, 2007 12:17 PM, Nick Wedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Joshua > Shriver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > >Aye, it would be bad to enter a tournament with a bot I didn't write.

Re: [computer-go] KGS connection

2007-11-09 Thread Nick Wedd
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Joshua Shriver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Aye, it would be bad to enter a tournament with a bot I didn't write. I was thinking more general. Just for play. Anyone can run a bot on KGS, the only obstacles are the small amount of technical competence required to

Re: [computer-go] KGS connection

2007-11-09 Thread Chris Fant
I was referring to the KGS bot tournaments. I see now that you did not specifically ask about that. On Nov 9, 2007 9:40 AM, Chris Fant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The way I understand it, you must have permission from the program > authors for either division. And only one version of a given p

Re: [computer-go] KGS connection

2007-11-09 Thread Joshua Shriver
Aye, it would be bad to enter a tournament with a bot I didn't write. I was thinking more general. Just for play. Thanks and good luck in the tourney :) -Josh On Nov 9, 2007 9:54 AM, Chris Fant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was referring to the KGS bot tournaments. I see now that you did > not s

Re: [computer-go] KGS connection

2007-11-09 Thread Jason House
To put a bot on KGS for general play, you simply need to set up a login ID and have kgsGtp use it. On Nov 9, 2007 9:35 AM, Joshua Shriver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What are the rules for putting bots on kgs? Do you have the author or > can anyone put up a gnugo bot? > > -Josh > ___

Re: [computer-go] KGS connection

2007-11-09 Thread Chris Fant
The way I understand it, you must have permission from the program authors for either division. And only one version of a given program can compete in the formal division. On Nov 9, 2007 9:35 AM, Joshua Shriver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What are the rules for putting bots on kgs? Do you have

Re: [computer-go] KGS connection

2007-11-09 Thread Joshua Shriver
What are the rules for putting bots on kgs? Do you have the author or can anyone put up a gnugo bot? -Josh On Nov 9, 2007 4:12 AM, William Shubert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > TCP Port 2379 on goserver.gokgs.com > > This is an outbound connection from your system. No other connection is > nee

Re: [computer-go] KGS connection

2007-11-09 Thread William Shubert
TCP Port 2379 on goserver.gokgs.com This is an outbound connection from your system. No other connection is needed. On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 09:59 +0100, Olivier Teytaud wrote: > Does someone know which port of which server > can be accepted by KGS for launching a bot > (we have tedious troubles wi

[computer-go] KGS connection

2007-11-08 Thread Olivier Teytaud
Does someone know which port of which server can be accepted by KGS for launching a bot (we have tedious troubles with a firewall...) ? Thanks for any information, Olivier ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.