[computer-go] Fuego parameter question

2009-12-09 Thread Jacques Basaldúa
To run Fuego in Windows, there the build I posted in: http://www.mail-archive.com/computer-go@computer-go.org/msg12208.html There is both source and binary. It is 40% faster than the cygwin version and more efficient in all senses, just because it is a native build. cygwin has serious limitatio

Re: [computer-go] Fuego parameter question

2009-12-08 Thread Nick Wedd
In message , Martin Mueller writes You use the current developers version svn985. Use the stable version fuego 0.4 instead. The performance (winning rate) on KGS of the current svn985 is much worse than the 0.4 version as i noticed. GK Hmm, something sounds very wrong here. a) the curren

[computer-go] Fuego parameter question

2009-12-07 Thread Martin Mueller
> You use the current developers version svn985. Use the stable version fuego > 0.4 instead. > The performance (winning rate) on KGS of the current svn985 is much worse > than the 0.4 version as i noticed. > > GK Hmm, something sounds very wrong here. a) the current version is 1062, as you can

[computer-go] Fuego parameter question

2009-12-07 Thread Gerhard Knop
Many Faces is getting too strong for Gnugo.  I test using 8K playouts per move on 19x19 and win about 89% of the games. I just tried testing against Fuego to get a stronger opponent.  I used fuego-svn985 from http://gnugo.baduk.org/, already built for Windows. I ran it with: fuego c:\go\goprogram

Re: [computer-go] Fuego parameter question

2009-12-06 Thread Darren Cook
>> You also need to set max_nodes quite high or Fuego will keep stopping to >> clear out its tree. I'm setting it to max_games*50, so for 8000: >> uct_param_search max_nodes 40 >> >> According to my notes fuego uses 75M + (65M per million max_nodes). So >> 15 million nodes will use about 1Gb.

Re: [computer-go] Fuego parameter question

2009-12-06 Thread Alain Baeckeroot
Le 06/12/2009 à 01:05, Darren Cook a écrit : > You also need to set max_nodes quite high or Fuego will keep stopping to > clear out its tree. I'm setting it to max_games*50, so for 8000: > uct_param_search max_nodes 40 > > According to my notes fuego uses 75M + (65M per million max_nodes). S

RE: [computer-go] Fuego parameter question

2009-12-05 Thread David Fotland
en Cook > Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 4:05 PM > To: computer-go > Subject: Re: [computer-go] Fuego parameter question > > > uct_param_player ignore_clock 1 > > uct_param_player max_games 8000 > > uct_param_search number_threads 1 > > uct_command_player pond

Re: [computer-go] Fuego parameter question

2009-12-05 Thread Petr Baudis
On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 09:05:27AM +0900, Darren Cook wrote: > > I expected to win 50 to 60% of the games, but won 88% of 1300 games. There > > were several games that Fuego lost due to a superko violation. > > > > Am I missing a parameter to set the rules to Chinese with superko? > > go_rules c

Re: [computer-go] Fuego parameter question

2009-12-05 Thread Darren Cook
> uct_param_player ignore_clock 1 > uct_param_player max_games 8000 > uct_param_search number_threads 1 > uct_command_player ponder 0 I learnt the other day that ignore_clock only ignores the game time settings, but there is still a default 10 seconds per move. To get rid of that add: go_param t

RE: [computer-go] Fuego parameter question

2009-12-05 Thread David Fotland
Petr Baudis > Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 2:40 AM > To: computer-go > Subject: Re: [computer-go] Fuego parameter question > > On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 08:54:39PM -0800, David Fotland wrote: > > Many Faces is getting too strong for Gnugo. I test using 8K playouts > per

RE: [computer-go] Fuego parameter question

2009-12-05 Thread David Fotland
David From: computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org [mailto:computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf Of Ben Lambrechts Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 1:45 AM To: computer-go Subject: Re: [computer-go] Fuego parameter question If you really want to test MFOG against Fuego, it is better to

Re: [computer-go] Fuego parameter question

2009-12-05 Thread Petr Baudis
On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 04:41:49PM +0100, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote: > There's no reason why something like a go engine should care what the > underlying OS is. Not until it gets multi-threaded, AFAIK pthread emulation by cygwin is far from optimal because threading model in Win32 is very differen

Re: [computer-go] Fuego parameter question

2009-12-05 Thread Gian-Carlo Pascutto
Ben Lambrechts wrote: > If you really want to test MFOG against Fuego, it is better to run Fuego > on a strong Linux-machine. > The Cygwin-version is significantly slower than the full-build I have on > the same machine with Fedora. Isn't that just a matter of using a cygwin version with the same

Re: [computer-go] Fuego parameter question

2009-12-05 Thread Ben Shoemaker
a bad option. Ben. From: Ben Lambrechts To: computer-go Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 3:44:44 AM Subject: Re: [computer-go] Fuego parameter question If you really want to test MFOG against Fuego, it is better to run Fuego on a strong Linux-machine. The Cygwin-versi

Re: [computer-go] Fuego parameter question

2009-12-05 Thread Petr Baudis
On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 08:54:39PM -0800, David Fotland wrote: > Many Faces is getting too strong for Gnugo. I test using 8K playouts per > move on 19x19 and win about 89% of the games. Is there a specific reason for insisting on even games? I still sometimes do tests on 9x9 (e.g. some slight re-

Re: [computer-go] Fuego parameter question

2009-12-05 Thread Ben Lambrechts
If you really want to test MFOG against Fuego, it is better to run Fuego on a strong Linux-machine. The Cygwin-version is significantly slower than the full-build I have on the same machine with Fedora. I provide the Cygwin for people who are not familiar enough with linux or are not able to build

[computer-go] Fuego parameter question

2009-12-04 Thread David Fotland
Many Faces is getting too strong for Gnugo. I test using 8K playouts per move on 19x19 and win about 89% of the games. I just tried testing against Fuego to get a stronger opponent. I used fuego-svn985 from http://gnugo.baduk.org/, already built for Windows. I ran it with: fuego c:\go\goprogram