Re: [computer-go] Generalizing RAVE

2009-09-26 Thread Markus Enzenberger
Brian Sheppard wrote: Fuego uses a lower weight for distant moves than for nearby moves. I suspect that isn't much better than using uniform weight. I am hope that Martin or Markus will comment. I measured a winning rate of 55.1(+-0.8)% of Fuego with weighted RAVE updates vs. the version w

Re: [computer-go] Fuego performance

2009-02-17 Thread Markus Enzenberger
terry mcintyre wrote: Does Fuego make use of multiple cores? Does it require some switch setting to do so? The number of threads is controlled by the GTP command "uct_param_search number_threads". On Intel and AMD CPUs, you should also set ""uct_param_search lock_free 1", see http://www

Re: [computer-go] Fuego performance

2009-02-16 Thread Markus Enzenberger
Jason House wrote: I went back to take another look and here are some of the things I'm noticing immediately: * There's both a go and gouct directory. They share many of the same file names (after removing the path-dependent name mangling such as GoBoard.cpp and GoUctBoard.cpp)

Re: [computer-go] Fuego performance

2009-02-15 Thread Markus Enzenberger
Petr Baudis wrote: Just FYI, someone might find interesting that latest SVN of Fuego still does not seem to be on par with Mogo public release 1 (not that it would claim to be - I was just curious where do they stand against each other). Fuego is weaker than MoGo on 19x19. With 15 min game

Re: [computer-go] MC and Japanese rules

2009-02-04 Thread Markus Enzenberger
Rémi Coulom wrote: Yes. The recipe is: - play as usual with Chinese rules, - take a one-point security margin with respect to komi, - pass as soon as the opponent passes. You also have to be careful to score seki the Japanese way in the playouts. This is the most difficult part. If your playou

Re: [computer-go] Another 6x6 analysis.

2008-10-02 Thread Markus Enzenberger
Gunnar Farnebäck wrote: Markus Enzenberger wrote: > I connected Fuego configured with CGOS rules. After a while it > terminated, because Fuego returned an error response to a play command > with a move that violated the positional superko rule. (By default, > Fuego does not accept i

Re: [computer-go] Another 6x6 analysis.

2008-10-02 Thread Markus Enzenberger
Gunnar Farnebäck wrote: To do that, just point your regular cgos client to trac.gnugo.org, port 6867. what rules does GNU Go use in the 6x6 analysis? I connected Fuego configured with CGOS rules. After a while it terminated, because Fuego returned an error response to a play command with a m

Re: [computer-go] cgos 19x19 has no anchor

2008-08-08 Thread Markus Enzenberger
Don Dailey wrote: If someone else could please run an anchor until we get this ironed out, it would be appreciated. Contact me by private email if you can run a reliable anchor player for a while. I could run a GNU Go anchor on 19x19 on one of our machines for two weeks. Maybe even a few w

Re: [computer-go] What Do You Need Most?

2008-07-31 Thread Markus Enzenberger
David Fotland wrote: I prefer keeping 9x9. We have 9x9 for quick testing of changes (because the games are fast), and 19x19 for testing play on a full board. I don't think 13x13 adds anything. It's slower, so I would still use 9x9 for quick tests. It's not a board size that anyone uses, so I w

Re: [computer-go] Some recent papers

2008-07-09 Thread Markus Enzenberger
Rémi Coulom wrote: This seems to be a good solution. I have just applied to your computer-go group. We just have to try to import the bibtex file. Markus, can you do it ? Or tell us where to download the bibtex file ? I added a link to the bib-file on the website: http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~g

Re: [computer-go] Some recent papers

2008-07-08 Thread Markus Enzenberger
Rémi Coulom wrote: I could not find the link for suggesting updates to the computer go bibliography, so if the people from the University of Alberta read this, they might like to add those papers to their bibliography. I probably won't continue maintaining the bibliography (from the beginning

Re: [computer-go] re: Fuego

2008-07-08 Thread Markus Enzenberger
Jason House wrote: What enhancements does fuego have over plain vanilla UCT? Also, what hardware are you using? The name seems to imply it's running with 8 cores. the enhancements are probably similar to what the other programs use: MoGo-like patterns and other heuristics in the playout po

Re: [computer-go] analysis of UCT and BAST

2007-11-21 Thread Markus Enzenberger
Remi Munos wrote: I have updated the BAST paper, providing additional comparison with UCT, as suggested by one person in the list. See: https://hal.inria.fr/inria-00150207 after reading the paper, I have two questions: How did you deal with unexplored nodes in Flat UCB and BAST in your expe

Re: [computer-go] XML alternatives to SGF

2007-10-23 Thread Markus Enzenberger
On Mon October 22 2007 18:24, Don Dailey wrote: > > On Mon October 22 2007 10:15, Don Dailey wrote: > > it also seems to be hard to write an SGF file without bugs. > > 20% of the games or 20% of the sources? 20% of the games could have > come from a single source. from different sources. You can

Re: [computer-go] XML alternatives to SGF

2007-10-22 Thread Markus Enzenberger
On Mon October 22 2007 10:15, Don Dailey wrote: > almost impossible to write XML manually without bugs. it also seems to be hard to write an SGF file without bugs. I recently run a test on a collection of about 5000 SGF files from various sources on the web and more than 20% of them generated a wa

Re: Solved! Re: [computer-go] Re: Binary release of MoGo

2007-09-10 Thread Markus Enzenberger
On Monday 10 September 2007, Sylvain Gelly wrote: > Ah, now that makes sense, the additional number you posted on your > email was actually sent to MoGo, and I understand now why it did not > work. auto-numbering in GoGui prepends all commands with an integer ID, which is sent to the program and s

Re: [computer-go] Binary release of MoGo

2007-09-10 Thread Markus Enzenberger
On Monday 10 September 2007, Sylvain Gelly wrote: > > could it be that it is compiled for specific CPU architecture? > > Of course it is :). > Ok, good (well, rather sad :)), to know that it does not work on > Athlon XP. I should rebuild with an older architecture then (but it > will be slower :-(

Re: [computer-go] Binary release of MoGo

2007-09-09 Thread Markus Enzenberger
> when I run the Linux exeutable on my Fedora 8/Athlon XP, I get a I mean Fedora 7... - Markus ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/

Re: [computer-go] Binary release of MoGo

2007-09-09 Thread Markus Enzenberger
when I run the Linux exeutable on my Fedora 8/Athlon XP, I get a coredump: $ mogo --9 --time 12 Load opening database opening succeed (nbEntries=618) (nbIllegalMoves removed 0) tried to open opening, success 1 Illegal instruction (core dumped) could it be that it is compiled for specific CPU arc

Re: [computer-go] GTPv3

2007-03-08 Thread Markus Enzenberger
I am still frightened by your plans, how to permit asynchronous commands in GTP. Here are some remarks and questions: genmove is only one of many commands that the user might want to abort. We use GTP extension commands for starting life and death searches or other lengthy computations and many

Re: [computer-go] GTPv3

2007-03-03 Thread Markus Enzenberger
On Saturday 03 March 2007, Stuart A. Yeates wrote: > In an ideal world I'd love to see go move to RFC 3920, but that would > be quite a disruptive shift. this RFC describes an asynchronous message passing system; GTP is more like a simple remote procedure call at Go engines. These are different

Re: [computer-go] GTPv3

2007-03-01 Thread Markus Enzenberger
On Thursday 01 March 2007, Phil G wrote: > I would like to suggest using the command "setup_sequence" instead to miror > the "play_sequence" command which was introduced by GoGui (I believe). I finally followed the GTP (draft) standard and used a prefix separated by a hyphen for non-standard exte

Re: [computer-go] GTPv3

2007-03-01 Thread Markus Enzenberger
On Thu March 1 2007 05:22, Łukasz Lew wrote: > The most important thing is controller - engine architecture. > There are situations that engine would like to have the control. For these requests come up once in a while, but IMO the clear separation between who is the controller and the engine is

Re: [computer-go] GtpStatiscics

2007-02-21 Thread Markus Enzenberger
On Wednesday 21 February 2007, Chris Fant wrote: > It seems that GtpStatistics (java tool that comes in the GoGui > package) is not sending a quit command to my gtp player. This results > in me having to manually kill the gtp player process after each run. please report GoGui bugs to the GoGui bu

Re: [computer-go] Big board

2007-02-20 Thread Markus Enzenberger
On Monday 19 February 2007, Chris Fant wrote: > Here is a completed game of Go between two random players... on a very > large board. > > For ascetics, the eyes have been filled after both players passed. > > http://fantius.com/RandomGo1600x1200.png this is very interesting. Can you compute some p

Re: [computer-go] Fw: Compensation for handicap plays?

2006-12-27 Thread Markus Enzenberger
would it make sense to treat players with handicap as completely different players? For example, GNU Go giving one handicap stone would be a different player and get a rating independent of GNU Go in an even game? Then there is no problem about how to shoehorn handicap into the ELO system. It w

Re: [computer-go] Anchor Player

2006-12-22 Thread Markus Enzenberger
On Friday 22 December 2006 13:24, Christian Nilsson wrote: > How is this compensation handled by the various programs on cgos, if at > all? > > Check http://www.britgo.org/rules/compare.html#comp if you don't know > what I'm talking about.. is there any logical explanation for this rule? I mean, W

Re: [computer-go] language choices

2006-12-05 Thread Markus Enzenberger
On Tue December 5 2006 13:31, Don Dailey wrote: > On CGOS, gnugu_3.7.4 is rated 1720. MoGo is is in the 2100-2200, > presumably it's save to assume it is significantly stronger. > > But if we can assign an ELO rating to Gnugo 3.7.4, then we can add 300 > or 400 to get Mogo's current ELO rating.