Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo rollout nakade patterns?

2017-01-31 Thread Brian Sheppard via Computer-go
Rollout policy is a black art. Lots of trial and error. That said, you are on the right path if you use the published papers as the starting point for your own experiments. Two board representation details are very important. If your board representation has these capabilities then you can rep

Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo rollout nakade patterns?

2017-01-31 Thread Robert Jasiek
On 31.01.2017 16:39, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote: http://senseis.xmp.net/?BasicLivingEyeShapes Warning: these do not include any living eye shapes with inside stones, nor specialities on the edge or in the corner. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go maili

Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo rollout nakade patterns?

2017-01-31 Thread Roel van Engelen
@Gian-Carlo Pascutto, thanks! but identifying the shapes is not the problem=) @Brain Sheppard, Sorry it was not my goal to make you start guessing any implementation details, somehow from your first explanation i got the impression that you where familiar with it and i was wondering whether anybod

Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo rollout nakade patterns?

2017-01-31 Thread Brian Sheppard via Computer-go
If a "diamond" pattern is centered on a 5x5 square, then you have 13 points. The diagram below will give the idea. __+__ _+++_ + _+++_ __+__ At one bit per cell, this would be 8192 patterns, so this is why I am guessing that this is the pattern set. (You would set one bit for each captur

Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo rollout nakade patterns?

2017-01-31 Thread Gian-Carlo Pascutto
On 31-01-17 16:32, Roel van Engelen wrote: > @Brain Sheppard > Thanks that is a really useful explanation! > the way you state: "and therefore a 8192-sized pattern set will identify > all potential nakade." seems to indicate this is a known pattern set? > could i find some more information on it s

Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo rollout nakade patterns?

2017-01-31 Thread Roel van Engelen
@Brain Sheppard Thanks that is a really useful explanation! the way you state: "and therefore a 8192-sized pattern set will identify all potential nakade." seems to indicate this is a known pattern set? could i find some more information on it somewhere? also i was unable to find Pebbles, is it ope