> As far as I know, pseudo-liberties are only used for detecting a
> capture or detecting atari. If this method you suggest has some value
> beyond that, then I'm interested to learn more about it. But the
> message that you linked seems to leave out a lot of details. You give
> conclusions, bu
Chris Fant wrote:
Once upon a time, I did analysis of the inaccuracy of pseudo liberties.
Searching quickly, I found:
http://computer-go.org/pipermail/computer-go/2005-October/003839.html
For any interested, I did come up with a variant of pseudo liberties
that was a lot closer to real liberties
As far as I know, pseudo-liberties are only used for detecting a
capture or detecting atari. If this method you suggest has some value
beyond that, then I'm interested to learn more about it. But the
I have a nice mathematical puzzle for you.
Fix some k, say, 81.
What is the smallest range N
Once upon a time, I did analysis of the inaccuracy of pseudo liberties.
Searching quickly, I found:
http://computer-go.org/pipermail/computer-go/2005-October/003839.html
For any interested, I did come up with a variant of pseudo liberties
that was a lot closer to real liberties. My post about "l
Arthur W Cater wrote:
It's really a way to incrementally update liberties in a
fast way - each stone keeps it's own count of liberties
and it is summed - but of course it doesn't represent
the true number of liberties since a point can get
counted 2 or more times.However, if the count goes
You can get it from ego library - file utils.cpp
Łukasz
On 3/29/07, Chris Fant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Can someone please re-send that list of fast/small random number
generators? I can't seem to find it. Thanks.
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On 3/29/07, Christoph Birk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007, Jim O'Flaherty, Jr. wrote:
> What's a pseudo-liberty?
> And how can there be more of them than there are empty intersections
> (81) on the board?
It is the sum of all stone's liberties in a group; ignoring common
liberti
> It's really a way to incrementally update liberties in a
> fast way - each stone keeps it's own count of liberties
> and it is summed - but of course it doesn't represent
> the true number of liberties since a point can get
> counted 2 or more times.However, if the count goes
> to zero, the
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007, Ken Friedenbach wrote:
I get 144 with a simple alternating pattern:
This is not a single group!
Christoph
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On 3/29/07, John Tromp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 3/29/07, Weston Markham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 3/29/07, John Tromp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 3/29/07, Weston Markham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > It appears to me that at least 91 is possible:
> > Nice! If you use O's inste
I think it's supposed to be for a single string.
- Don
On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 12:26 -0700, Ken Friedenbach wrote:
> I get 144 with a simple alternating pattern:
>
> 5 .O.O.O.O. 13
> 4 O.O.O.O.O 16
> 5 .O.O.O.O. 18
> 4 O.O.O.O.O 16
> 5 .O.O.O.O. 18
> 4 O.O.O.O.O 16
> 5 .O.O.O.O. 18
> 4 O.O.O.O.O
On 3/29/07, Weston Markham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 3/29/07, John Tromp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 3/29/07, Weston Markham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > It appears to me that at least 91 is possible:
> Nice! If you use O's instead like
>
> .OO.O.OO.
> OO.OOO.OO
> .OO.O.OO.
> OO.OOO.OO
I get 144 with a simple alternating pattern:
5 .O.O.O.O. 13
4 O.O.O.O.O 16
5 .O.O.O.O. 18
4 O.O.O.O.O 16
5 .O.O.O.O. 18
4 O.O.O.O.O 16
5 .O.O.O.O. 18
4 O.O.O.O.O 16
5 .O.O.O.O. 13
41 points 144
Fewer liberty points: 41 versus 54 in your pattern,
but more strings, hence more duplicate count
On 3/29/07, John Tromp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 3/29/07, Weston Markham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It appears to me that at least 91 is possible:
Nice! If you use O's instead like
.OO.O.OO.
OO.OOO.OO
.OO.O.OO.
OO.OOO.OO
.OO.O.OO.
OO.OOO.OO
.OO.O.OO.
OO.OOO.OO
.OOO.OOO.
it looks pretty ar
On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 11:08 -0700, Jim O'Flaherty, Jr. wrote:
> What's a pseudo-liberty? And how can there be more of them than there
> are empty intersections (81) on the board?
That's why they are pseudo - they may not be real :-)
Actually, a pseduo-liberty is an actual liberty, but it can
be
I think I may have sent that several months ago:
http://www.lns.cornell.edu/spr/1999-01/msg0014148.html
- Don
On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 14:55 -0400, Chris Fant wrote:
> Can someone please re-send that list of fast/small random number
> generators? I can't seem to find it. Thanks.
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On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 14:29 -0400, John Tromp wrote:
> On 3/29/07, Weston Markham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > It appears to me that at least 91 is possible:
> >
> > .xx.x.xx.
> > xx.xxx.xx
> > .xx.x.xx.
> > xx.xxx.xx
> > .xx.x.xx.
> > xx.xxx.xx
> > .xx.x.xx.
> > xx.xxx.xx
> > .xxx.xxx.
>
> Nice
Can someone please re-send that list of fast/small random number
generators? I can't seem to find it. Thanks.
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Pseudoliberties, as someone here explained recently, are a count of how
many adjacent empty spaces a program would find around a chain of stones
if it didn't bother to correct for how many times the same space gets
counted from different directions.
example
0 0 . .
X X 0 .
. X 0 .
. 0 . . The X's
Weston wrote:
> It appears to me that at least 91 is possible:
>
> .xx.x.xx.
> xx.xxx.xx
> .xx.x.xx.
> xx.xxx.xx
> .xx.x.xx.
> xx.xxx.xx
> .xx.x.xx.
> xx.xxx.xx
> .xxx.xxx.
Congratulations, you reached the maximum. Here are the maximum number of
pseudoliberties up to 13x13:
1x1 0
2x2
[If this is redundant, please excuse me. I'm wondering if I ran into some
kind of filter the last time I sent this.(?)]
Pseudoliberties, as someone here explained recently, are a count of how
many adjacent empty spaces a program would find around a chain of stones
if it didn't bother to correct f
On 3/29/07, Weston Markham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It appears to me that at least 91 is possible:
.xx.x.xx.
xx.xxx.xx
.xx.x.xx.
xx.xxx.xx
.xx.x.xx.
xx.xxx.xx
.xx.x.xx.
xx.xxx.xx
.xxx.xxx.
Nice! If you use O's instead like
.OO.O.OO.
OO.OOO.OO
.OO.O.OO.
OO.OOO.OO
.OO.O.OO.
OO.OOO.OO
.OO.O.OO
The March 2007 KGS computer Go tournament will be next Sunday, April
8th, in the Asian evening, European morning and American night, starting
at 09:00 UCT and ending at about 13:00 UCT.
It will use small boards (9x9 for the Formal division, 13x13 for the
Open), Chinese rules with 7.5 points ko
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007, Jim O'Flaherty, Jr. wrote:
What's a pseudo-liberty?
And how can there be more of them than there are empty intersections
(81) on the board?
It is the sum of all stone's liberties in a group; ignoring common
liberties.
Christoph
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A pseudo-liberty is a pairing of a stone in the group and an adjacent,
empty intersection.
On 3/29/07, Jim O'Flaherty, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
What's a pseudo-liberty? And how can there be more of them than there are
empty intersections (81) on the board?
- Original Message
F
It appears to me that at least 91 is possible:
.xx.x.xx.
xx.xxx.xx
.xx.x.xx.
xx.xxx.xx
.xx.x.xx.
xx.xxx.xx
.xx.x.xx.
xx.xxx.xx
.xxx.xxx.
Weston
On 3/29/07, Jason House <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
After some trial and error, I got 90
* * * *
*
* * * *
* * * ***
* * *
*** * * *
*
What's a pseudo-liberty? And how can there be more of them than there are
empty intersections (81) on the board?
- Original Message
From: Jason House <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: computer-go
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 1:02:01 PM
Subject: Re: [computer-go] Re: pseudoliberties
After some
After some trial and error, I got 90
* * * *
*
* * * *
* * * ***
* * *
*** * * *
* * * *
*
* * * *
On 3/29/07, John Tromp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 3/29/07, John Tromp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is 88 the maximum number of pseuoliberties a string can have on 9x9?
Ma
For now, just email me directly. After CGOS is up and running, we
may do something more sophisticated.
There is something on senseis called CGOS wishlist, or something
like that - but most of those requests are very old and many if
not most of them have been implemented even in the old server.
On 3/29/07, John Tromp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Is 88 the maximum number of pseuoliberties a string can have on 9x9?
Make that 89:-)
-John
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What is your policy for receiving/handling feature requests? Is there a
tracker (e.g. sourceforge) or a wiki page (e.g. senseis)? Or do we just
e-mail you directly?
On 3/29/07, Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I aslo recieved many useful suggestions about feature
improvements or addition
Out of curiosity,
Is 88 the maximum number of pseuoliberties a string can have on 9x9?
(it should be safe to use only 6 bits in practice, if you need every last bit:)
regards,
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I would like to thank everyone who helped with the testing
of CGOS. As a result I was able to shake out several
bugs, many of which you discovered for me.
I aslo recieved many useful suggestions about feature
improvements or additions - many of which I will
implement either right away or at
I'm spanish too. I'm investigating with evolutionay algorithms and MC in my
spare time. No results yet...
Regards,
Dani
2007/3/28, Álvaro Begué <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
On 3/28/07, Nick Wedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Angel
> \"Java\" Lopez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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