Re: [computer-go] GTPv3

2007-03-02 Thread Mark Boon
On 2-mrt-07, at 16:34, Don Dailey wrote: Łukasz, Yes, I would like to see some of these problems solved. As I mentioned, UCI doesn't have any of these issues. After thinking about this, there is perhaps a backwards compatible solution: 1. Don't change GTP, just add to it. 2. Have a comm

Re: [computer-go] KGS bot curiosity

2007-03-02 Thread nando
On 3/2/07, Nick Wedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't suppose this matters, but it seems odd. A day or two ago, I launched GnuGo3pt7 to play in the British Room. It played happily there. Then today, I saw it was not in the British Room (though it can't have been long gone, there was a finish

Re: [computer-go] GTPv3

2007-03-02 Thread Don Dailey
Łukasz, Yes, I would like to see some of these problems solved. As I mentioned, UCI doesn't have any of these issues. After thinking about this, there is perhaps a backwards compatible solution: 1. Don't change GTP, just add to it. 2. Have a command called "asyncronous" which tells the e

Re: [computer-go] KGS bot curiosity

2007-03-02 Thread David Doshay
We are also not understanding what we are seeing with SlugGo in the Computer Room. It is playing games (we don't know where) and we cannot seem to get a game with it. Cheers, David On 2, Mar 2007, at 11:11 AM, Nick Wedd wrote: I don't suppose this matters, but it seems odd. A day or two

Re: [computer-go] KGS bot curiosity

2007-03-02 Thread Nick Wedd
I don't suppose this matters, but it seems odd. A day or two ago, I launched GnuGo3pt7 to play in the British Room. It played happily there. Then today, I saw it was not in the British Room (though it can't have been long gone, there was a finished game of its there). Instead, it was in a r

Re: [computer-go] GTPv3

2007-03-02 Thread Don Dailey
On Fri, 2007-03-02 at 13:45 -0500, Don Dailey wrote: > The contoller would send > commands such as "continue_search" which must return in a fraction of > second, possibly with a move.This would be truly awkward but > possible. Of course, a good GO program doesn't have to STOP searching just

Re: [computer-go] GTPv3

2007-03-02 Thread Don Dailey
On Fri, 2007-03-02 at 17:31 +0100, Łukasz Lew wrote: > I also have a strong feelings about variables. > I believe there should be standard GTP command, "var" seems to be a good name, > that would write list of variables (with types?) > var var_x would print value of var_x > var var_x value would se

Re: [computer-go] GTPv3

2007-03-02 Thread Don Dailey
I like GTP and I champion it.However, there are some weaknesses and they are not easily fixed without a major paridigm change. 1. There is no way to STOP a program from thinking. This is needed for a high quality user interface. 2. There is no natuaral way to get useful informat

Re: [computer-go] GTPv3

2007-03-02 Thread Łukasz Lew
I also have a strong feelings about variables. I believe there should be standard GTP command, "var" seems to be a good name, that would write list of variables (with types?) var var_x would print value of var_x var var_x value would set the value. What do You think? Łukasz On 3/2/07, Markus En

Re: [computer-go] GTPv3

2007-03-02 Thread Łukasz Lew
On 3/2/07, Markus Enzenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu March 1 2007 05:22, Łukasz Lew wrote: > The most important thing is controller - engine architecture. > There are situations that engine would like to have the control. For these requests come up once in a while, but IMO the clear s

Re: [computer-go] Re: Big board. Temperature

2007-03-02 Thread alain Baeckeroot
Le vendredi 2 mars 2007 12:55, Jacques Basaldúa a écrit : > In CGT the temperature is the difference between the value if you play > and the value if you pass. Thanks for your lights :) Ok i better understand my confusion. In Go CGT-temperature applied to yose strongly looks like ordinary points (m

Re: [computer-go] MC - Estimating a moves true probability of winning

2007-03-02 Thread steve uurtamo
> Well, the "assumption" that p is estimated from the binomial because we > are counting Bernoulli experiments of constant p is a mathematically > sound method used universally. It does not require go knowledge, that's > what i meant. When n is big enough, the binomial converges to the normal > an

Re: [computer-go] Re: Big board. Temperature

2007-03-02 Thread Jacques Basaldúa
In CGT the temperature is the difference between the value if you play and the value if you pass. The name question should be answered by a native English speaker, but I guess it is an common use of the word "hot". Let's call it "hotness" ;-) Jacques. __

Re: [computer-go] MC - Estimating a moves true probability of winning

2007-03-02 Thread Jacques Basaldúa
Hello, Just an explanation on something I may have explained badly. I see we agree in the fundamental. Correcting bias in that estimate should lead to better sampling. This is usually called "continuity correction" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuity_correction. The estimator is not r