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2013-09-24 Thread Chris Hanson
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Re: iOS7 Controls

2013-09-24 Thread Bradley O'Hearne
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Rick Mann wrote: > >> On Sep 24, 2013, at 17:04 , Luther Baker wrote: >> >> The new UI is > > better overall. I won't render a "better" or "worse", or even a "like" or "dislike". I've been repeatedly reminded of the fact that beauty is in the eye of the be

Re: iOS7 Controls

2013-09-24 Thread Luther Baker
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Rick Mann wrote: > > On Sep 24, 2013, at 17:04 , Luther Baker wrote: > > > As alluded to in some of the other posts, some of the others of _us_ that > > care about usability, readability, dynamic text, full screen views, fewer > > shadows and performance are find

Re: iOS7 Controls

2013-09-24 Thread Gary L. Wade
Sounds like you should write up some UI/Usability bugs at http://bugreport.apple.com/ -- Gary L. Wade (Sent from my iPhone) http://www.garywade.com/ On Sep 24, 2013, at 5:54 PM, David Rowland wrote: > The weather app is almost unreadable - tiny, thin type in white on a light > blue background.

Re: iOS7 Controls

2013-09-24 Thread David Rowland
I'm happy to embrace iOS7, but Apple's own software offers a caution. The weather app is almost unreadable - tiny, thin type in white on a light blue background. The calendar won't present a list view unless you are searching. The calculator in scientific mode uses tiny type on "buttons" that ca

Re: iOS7 Controls

2013-09-24 Thread Rick Mann
On Sep 24, 2013, at 17:55 , Alex Kac wrote: > Maybe its just me, but the iPad settings don’t look like iOS 6 settings. The > only thing I see is that on the right its iOS 7 style, with an inset of the > white. Its not the same thing as going back to iOS 6 style. That’s a > stylistic minor dif

Re: iOS7 Controls

2013-09-24 Thread Alex Kac
Maybe its just me, but the iPad settings don’t look like iOS 6 settings. The only thing I see is that on the right its iOS 7 style, with an inset of the white. Its not the same thing as going back to iOS 6 style. That’s a stylistic minor difference and Apple even encourages you to customize the

Re: iOS7 Controls

2013-09-24 Thread Rick Mann
On Sep 24, 2013, at 17:04 , Luther Baker wrote: > As alluded to in some of the other posts, some of the others of _us_ that > care about usability, readability, dynamic text, full screen views, fewer > shadows and performance are finding good times ahead as we embrace the > platform and learn ho

Re: iOS7 Controls

2013-09-24 Thread Rick Mann
On Sep 24, 2013, at 17:04 , Luther Baker wrote: > While you are free to do this - in general, reverting to the UI of yore is > not the best practice to embrace. "Resistance is futile. :)" I think you > will be surprised at the problems you will create for yourself trying to do > things the old w

Re: iOS7 Controls

2013-09-24 Thread Luther Baker
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Alex Zavatone wrote: > I'm with you, Gordon. I just bought a new iPad before 7 came out so I do > not have to use iOS 7, unless it is in the simulator. > > It looks too feminine and juvenile for me to feel comfortable using. I'll > just leave my opinion at that.

Re: iOS7 Controls

2013-09-24 Thread Alex Zavatone
I'm with you, Gordon. I just bought a new iPad before 7 came out so I do not have to use iOS 7, unless it is in the simulator. It looks too feminine and juvenile for me to feel comfortable using. I'll just leave my opinion at that. I've already seen people who feel burned that they thought th

Re: iOS7 Controls

2013-09-24 Thread Markus Spoettl
On 9/24/13 10:22 PM, Gordon Apple wrote: I¹ve started at least embedding pickers and tables in bordered views. Not ideal, but better than nothing. I¹m thinking about abandoning segmented controls for a bordered view containing buttons. Other than doing a whole slew of custom controls, how are ot

Re: iOS7 Controls

2013-09-24 Thread Alex Kac
Some of us like it. I admit it took a few weeks to get used to it, but once I did I really like it. So how did I deal with it? I embraced it. On Sep 24, 2013, at 2:22 PM, Gordon Apple wrote: > I really don¹t like to do posts like this, but I think it is warranted. My > motivation is to find ou

iOS7 Controls

2013-09-24 Thread Gordon Apple
I really don¹t like to do posts like this, but I think it is warranted. My motivation is to find out how others are coping with this. Admittedly, I¹m late to the party, only upgrading after the release. There were only a few features I thought I might add in my iPad apps for iOS7, so I just let