On Jul 16, 2008, at 3:38 AM, Uli Kusterer wrote:
On 14.07.2008, at 14:53, Bill Royds wrote:
Are there any good tools for porting Application menus and forms
from other windowing systems (such as MS Windows or X or even
Carbon) to Cocoa nibs? I have a number of applications that I would
li
On 14.07.2008, at 14:53, Bill Royds wrote:
Are there any good tools for porting Application menus and forms
from other windowing systems (such as MS Windows or X or even
Carbon) to Cocoa nibs? I have a number of applications that I would
like to port, but redesigning the form or menu layout
On 14-Jul-08, at 17:55 , Kyle Sluder wrote:
I suppose the question I should be asking you is, who is your
audience? What does your product do? Why do you want to
auto-generate your user interface in a serialized object graph form
from a textual template? That certainly wouldn't be my first c
Hello,
I hope this is appropriate on this this list:
As the discussion goes around Interface design, would it be for any
interest for developers with no time or experience in interface design
if I offer my services?
I’m a graphic designer with focus on interface design. And I’m
programmin
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Bill Royds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Forms layout is not part of the "standard user experience" in general,
> although forms look and feel is.
Wrong. Otherwise the Apple HIG, the Windows interface guidelines, the
Gnome HIG, etc. all would lack sections on the p
On 14-Jul-08, at 12:38 , Gregory Weston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
No he's not. Long-time Mac developers know quite well that by and
large Mac users are very averse to apps that simply don't fit. It's
not a question of arguments about "better" or "worse" (although such
arguments can cert
Kyle Sluder wrote:
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Bill Royds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The layout may be a "standard" form required by law or other
convention. I am not suggesting that one port the code, just the
forms and
menu labels.
I know of no statute that mandates Look & Feel, an
Bill Royds wrote:
On 14-Jul-08, at 09:20 , Kyle Sluder wrote:
It would lead to a large increase in poorly-designed, auto-ported Mac
applications. And then developers would wonder why nobody wants to
purchase their software, even though the Windows version did so well.
Not necessarily. You a
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Bill Royds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not necessarily. You are assuming that all other interfaces are inferior to
> Macintosh interfaces.
No, I am asserting that not following the conventions established on
the Mac is inferior to following those conventions, rega
On 14-Jul-08, at 09:20 , Kyle Sluder wrote:
It would lead to a large increase in poorly-designed, auto-ported Mac
applications. And then developers would wonder why nobody wants to
purchase their software, even though the Windows version did so well.
Not necessarily. You are assuming that al
Bill Royds wrote:
Are there any good tools for porting Application menus and forms from
other windowing systems (such as MS Windows or X or even Carbon) to
Cocoa nibs? I have a number of applications that I would like to port,
but redesigning the form or menu layout completely seems to be ra
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Bill Royds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Being able to do this would lead to an large increase in the number of
> Macintosh applications available.
It would lead to a large increase in poorly-designed, auto-ported Mac
applications. And then developers would wonder
On 14-Jul-08, at 01:38 , Bill Bumgarner <[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Your application's menu isn't that big of a deal, but your
application's integration with Mac OS X is a very big deal and that
is most of the battle of doing "nib less" development. It is much
more than just populating the
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