Re: Thoughts on Objective-C++

2019-11-12 Thread Chris Ridd via Cocoa-dev
> On 12 Nov 2019, at 21:14, Jean-Daniel via Cocoa-dev > wrote: > > > >> Le 12 nov. 2019 à 21:30, Richard Charles via Cocoa-dev >> a écrit : >> >> >>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 1:16 PM, GNDGN wrote: >>> >>> ‘It’s like giving a glass of ice water to somebody in hell’ - Jobs >>> >> >> Apple re

Re: Thoughts on Objective-C++

2019-11-12 Thread Richard Charles via Cocoa-dev
> On Nov 12, 2019, at 2:14 PM, Jean-Daniel via Cocoa-dev > wrote: > > What would be the benefit for Apple to support public API for Windows ? > More applications available for the Mac. Reduce the number of app developers abandoning the Mac platform. Reduce the number of inferior electron

Re: Thoughts on Objective-C++

2019-11-12 Thread Jean-Daniel via Cocoa-dev
> Le 12 nov. 2019 à 21:30, Richard Charles via Cocoa-dev > a écrit : > > >> On Nov 12, 2019, at 1:16 PM, GNDGN wrote: >> >> ‘It’s like giving a glass of ice water to somebody in hell’ - Jobs >> > > Apple released iTunes for Windows in October 2003. Apparently Cocoa and any > supporting f

Re: Thoughts on Objective-C++

2019-11-12 Thread Turtle Creek Software via Cocoa-dev
That is a cool discovery! It would be a game-changer for us, assuming Apple also committed to long-term support for Cocoa and Objective-C. Life would be so much sweeter if we only had to write apps once for all PCs. I'd prefer to do it on Xcode rather than Visual Studio. In 2001 we contracted the

Re: Thoughts on Objective-C++

2019-11-12 Thread Gabriel Zachmann via Cocoa-dev
> > I'm not just joking here. Obj-C's dynamic nature is at the heart of a lot of > Cocoa's powerful features like Interface Builder and KVO. Super-static > languages like C++ don't work well for GUI development, IMHO, because they > make it hard to compose high-level objects together. I agre

Re: Thoughts on Objective-C++

2019-11-12 Thread GNDGN via Cocoa-dev
Because they want us devs to stay in their own ecosystem .. which is a pretty right move imo. > Am 12.11.2019 um 21:30 schrieb Richard Charles : > >  >> On Nov 12, 2019, at 1:16 PM, GNDGN wrote: >> >> ‘It’s like giving a glass of ice water to somebody in hell’ - Jobs >> > > Apple released

Re: Thoughts on Objective-C++

2019-11-12 Thread Richard Charles via Cocoa-dev
> On Nov 12, 2019, at 1:16 PM, GNDGN wrote: > > ‘It’s like giving a glass of ice water to somebody in hell’ - Jobs > Apple released iTunes for Windows in October 2003. Apparently Cocoa and any supporting frameworks were ported to Windows 16 years ago. So what is the problem providing this to

Re: Thoughts on Objective-C++

2019-11-12 Thread GNDGN via Cocoa-dev
‘It’s like giving a glass of ice water to somebody in hell’ - Jobs (; > Am 12.11.2019 um 21:00 schrieb Richard Charles via Cocoa-dev > : > >  >> On Nov 11, 2019, at 6:05 PM, Turtle Creek Software via Cocoa-dev >> wrote: >> >> Unfortunately, software for any vertical or specialty market has

Re: Thoughts on Objective-C++

2019-11-12 Thread Richard Charles via Cocoa-dev
> On Nov 11, 2019, at 6:05 PM, Turtle Creek Software via Cocoa-dev > wrote: > > Unfortunately, software for any vertical or specialty market has to deal with > Mac market share. > I just downloaded iTunes 12.10.2.3 (64 bit) for Windows 10 Pro. It runs great, looks great, no crashes. An ex