I had a Doyle stack pack installed on my LF39. With the center cockpit, and
full canvas there was no way to install a sail cover. The stack pack is rigged
so the zipper can be opened and closed from the mast. On my LF38 I made a
sailrite sail cover with lazyjack slots . If I had to do it again I
Hi Doug,
Can you explain why you prefer the conventional cover and adjustable lazy
jacks? I'm building my system and would like to incorporate your advice. How
would the best system work?
Chuck S
> On 01/28/2021 7:56 AM Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List
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Hi Chuck
Persistence has lazy jacks that we sometimes have in place and use and other
times have tied off to base of shrouds. Sail cover is unmodified and still
works with the lazy jacks.
I should point out that Lazy jacks are only half a solution. In our case they
do not work well even afte
Hi there,
We had a tides marine mast track and Doyle stack pack on our 30-2 worked fairly
good for convenience.
On our 34 + we have a batten rail car system for the track, which I love, and a
brand new conventional sailcover with cut out and fold over velcroed flaps for
lazy jack lines.
I wa
We used Port Townsend Rigging's Lazy Jack kit on our 35-3. They stow at
the mast so no modifications were required to the sail cover. They are
easy to use and you can leave them stowed while raining the main and not
get battens caught. They were easy to install and reasonably priced.
Neil S
The Mack Pack has a line attached to the zipper and blocks mounted front and
rear so you can grab that line anywhere along its length and open or close the
zipper. Nice feature. Dave
S/V Aries
1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT
> On Jan 28, 2021, at 8:53 AM, Blair Clark via CnC-List
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Hi Chuck
Installed a Tides Strong Track , Lazy jacks and a Doyle Stack Pack type
Sailcover.
om my 1970 C&C36R a couple of years ago. No services where I'm at thank God so
I
DIYed it..like all things : ).
The Tides Strong track was a a bit more than a Boat Buck (approx 45' of track.
The Sta
Hi ChuckI thought that with the extra cut outs for lazyjacks. installing the
cover was labor intensive. Without the cut outs, tie the sail, lower the
lazyjacks, and install the cover. I made my lazyjacks, using 2 cheek blocks on
the mast, a few metal rings for the sail support lines. When lowere
I'm finishing a long repainting project and will be reinstalling all my
cleats, winches, tracks and such soon.
Within the past few months there was a discussion about mounting deck
hardware and which brand/type of Butyl Tape was preferred. I wrote it down
somewhere but time and dottage has carried
Not sure if brand matters but i used 1/2 * 1/8th
I found a good practice is to countersink gelcoat with 5/16th and apply cone
shape butyl tape to bolt.
last year I refitted deck hardware, genoa tracks and mast collar with this
approach and it worked great.
From
Thanks to everyone for your great responses on Lazy Jacks and Stack Packs. I'm
making my own lazy jacks using very small diameter dyneema and Ronstan shock
blocks. I will have to alter my design slighty to make it retractable. FWIW,
I found videos on installing a Mack Pack and various other s
oops 5/8 countersink...one suggested rule of thumb is countersink twice
diameter of bolt hole
From: Blair Clark via CnC-List
Sent: January 28, 2021 12:27 PM
To: Stus-List
Cc: Blair Clark
Subject: Stus-List Re: Mounting deck hardware
Not sure if brand matters b
There are a few, but BedIt is a good one.
Bill Coleman
Entrada, Erie, PA
From: Blair Clark via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 11:27 AM
To: Stus-List
Cc: Blair Clark
Subject: Stus-List Re: Mounting deck hardware
Not sure if brand matte
I had the faux teak flooring installed on my screw-in 1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb sole.
Between the cost of the flooring (got it from Defender) and the install, it was
about $2k, which was what it cost me the 1st time I replaced it with all new
stuff by a boatyard about 10 years ago.
I could not see the
I second use of Bedit.
Bob Mann
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I use this:
https://shop.marinehowto.com/products/bed-it-tape
I went the long way round on painting the deck. My boat is out in the weather
on stands and I got tired of taping over holes in the deck each time rain was
foecasted and worrying about rain ruining my interior, as I've been taking o
+1 on bed-it. Doug Mountjoysv Rebecca Leah C&C Landfall 39Port Orchard yacht
club
Original message From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List
Date: 1/28/21 11:52 (GMT-05:00) To: 'Stus-List'
Cc: Bill Coleman Subject: Stus-List
Re: Mounting deck hardware
There are a few, but BedIt
+2 on Bed-It. It is unbelievably 'sticky' and 'stretchy'.
OTOH, I wish it came in an 1/8" thickness. It sometimes requires that you use 2
layers IMHO (depending on your skills or how uneven the surface you are working
on) and between itsstickiness and stretchiness you can end up with the stuff
Chuck - sounds interesting - would really like to see the end result, hopefully
you can post some pics somewhere!
Dave
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 28, 2021, at 11:30 AM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
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> Thanks to everyone for your great responses on Lazy Jacks and Stack Packs.
On the Photo Album, under Do It Yourself, there is a simple DIY lazy jack
system. It works.
StuThanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the
costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to
send contribution -- https://www.paypal.
The Detroit area OD fleet of 35 mk I's is allowing asails (A3 specifically)
this year for the first time ever, but they must be flown from the tack or
spinnaker pole. Does anyone know of any videos showing asails flown from a
spinnaker pole? I'd especially like to see one being gybed. I've fl
I would just go as far as I could, pull the sissy sock down over it and just
broad reach into the leeward mark. If there was too much distance, I would then
re-set on the other side and pull the sock back up, THAT is why I really want
a top-down furler!
Bill Coleman
Entrada, Erie, PA
No sock.
The board really only wanted to use A3 on races of 25nm or more, where there
would be minimal gybing and long legs. I got them to change it to any race so
that when we're short-handed we're still able to be competitive against full
spinnakers
Bob
> On 01/28/2021 5:58 PM Bill Cole
Do an outside gybe. Trim main, ease spin sheet a lot and let it float
forward then bring it over and gybe the main
Joel
On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 7:42 PM Bob Mann via CnC-List
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> The board really only wanted to use A3 on races of 25nm or more, where
> there would be minimal gyb
Joel,
you're missing the part with the spinnaker pole. It also has to be moved to
gybed position.
Bob
> On 01/28/2021 7:53 PM Joel Aronson via CnC-List
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> Do an outside gybe. Trim main, ease spin sheet a lot and let it float
> forward then bring it over and g
Bob
I’ve never used the pole like that. I was thinking you would leave it in
place like a sprit.
On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 8:05 PM Bob Mann via CnC-List
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> to gybed position.
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> Bob
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> On 01/28/2021 7:53
Sailrite video on DIY stack pack/lazy bag setup.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMB-r4mtK1Q&t=3081s
On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 at 08:26, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Hi Doug,
> Can you explain why you prefer the conventional cover and adjustable lazy
> jacks? I'm
Hi Dave,
It will be some time before I get my lazy jacks done and the mast put back in
the boat and rigged, but I'll share pictures then. You may enjoy watching a
video of splicing the amsteel using low friction rings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVXV4e1a0-A
Chuck S
> On 01/28/202
Years ago I suffered from problems with my Harken fuller until I learned about
the problem with the angle between the halyard exit point from the mast sheave
and the top of the fuller drum.
The first fix was the Harken halyard restrainer--which increased this angle so
that the angle between the
I've been following this discussion with interest since we are often either
short handed (or short handed where it counts!) as in doing the foredeck dance
with a symmetrical kite on my 36'er. All of our local club races are W-L.
My question is can I be competitive in the spin fleet with an A3(or
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