Does your PHRF adjust down to 105?
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I race with a 105% North genoa, and
Rich,
2700 what? Pounds pressure on the gauge? Pounds tension on the lower
wire? Pounds tension on the upper rod?
Gary
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Alera has no backstay tensioner at all. We cruise so it’s not an issue and
considering the issues re the attachment points I okay with that.
Tom Buscaglia
S/V Alera
1990 C&C 37+/40
Vashon WA
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C 305.409.3660
> On Aug 3, 2018, at 4:59 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
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My PHRF is 132 with a 105% genoa. That's down from 123 with a 150 % genoa,
and 129 with a 135 % genoa. Remember, these are ratings for the Pacific NW
for a 35 Mk III. With a different boat, and different geographical
location, yours may be different.
Alan
On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 4:59 AM, David
Interesting...our PHRF fleet does not allow for an allowance below a 135.
Which is pretty silly considering the dominant Smokin' SW breeze here we do
not need anything more than a 110-120. And raising the main is an option.
David F. Risch, J. D.
Gulf Stream Associates, LLC
(401) 419-4650
So... I went over to Kaylarah this morning and found the following:
The back stay diagonals are 235" long
The spread between the attachments is 80"
Doing the math, that means if the maximum tension on the vertical rod is
5000 lbs., then the tension on the diagonals is 2537 lbs.
>From here you can
Rating adjustments for headsails are usually defined in a PHRF region's
bylaws or equivalent. Here's the adjustments for the Gulf Yachting
Association.
171-180-6
156-170-3
136-155 0
111-135 +3
<110 +6
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 8:5
Tom,
The back stay with baby stay make a dramatic difference in the
handling and performance of the boat upwind when it starts to blow. I do
agree that the absence of the back stay adjuster reduces stress on the rig
and the captain. I can't imagine the chaos if the back stay attachments
fail
With that info I'll head down to my boat and apply various psi to the
hydraulics and then measure the tension with my loos gauge.
Josh
On Fri, Aug 3, 2018, 10:17 AM Gary Russell via CnC-List <
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> So... I went over to Kaylarah this morning and found the following:
>
Josh,
Great! I would be most interested in the displacement of the
hydraulic RAM vs. the Loos gauge tension, since I don't have a working
pressure gauge:
What would be most interesting to me, would be a table like:
Pressure Loos Gauge Displacement of the RAM in inches
pou
Loos company argues that a loose rig is more likely to damage the boat than
a properly tightened one due to shock loading. Without an adjustable
backstay you're forced to either keep the rig tight in preparation for max
wind or loose to avoid stress while the boat is idle. Or I guess
compromise.
Gary
Mainsail tuning on Alera is limited anyway. The
in boom furling main has a rigid vang. So,
tuning the mail limited to furling in the main
while not slacking the halyard and using the baby
stay to flatten the main. That's about it for
us. But, the ease of two handing with a couple o
Gary;
As the others have said, it is for attaching a vang or preventer and the roller
reefing system puts the sail inside the loop as it is rolled around the boom.
Tom, if the boat has the original boom and end boom sheeting (like my 25 mk1)
the stainless plate on the end of the boon, to
Mine was rod upper and lower with no backstay adjuster at all. This year I
had the lowers made to wire to I could add a simple haul down tensioner,
works great except I have to go up and put a smaller metal ring between the
two wire blocks so when loose it will ride higher up, it's probably about a
Tom,
Can you tell me more about your boom furler?
Considering one for my 41.
Brand, fitment, pix if you can... price if you’re comfortable, too
Thanks,
Chuck B
C&C 41
Tenacious
Somerset, MA
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> On Aug 3, 2018, at 11:23 AM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List
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> Gary
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The only headsail adjustment my RSA makes is +3 for >155%. My #1 genoa is
165%, but I don’t race with it for several reasons (don’t want the adjustment,
can’t point, it’s heavier than my 150% drifter, etc.).
Given the typical (light) wind conditions on my lake, I usually leave the
marina with
Tom,
We're "up there", too. I get it.
Gary
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On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 11:23 AM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List <
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> Gary
>
> Mainsail tuning on Alera is limited anyway. The in boom furling main has
> a rigid vang. So, tuning the mail limited to fur
I'd love to see that as well Josh.
Thanks!
Bruce Whitmore
(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
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Subject: Re: Stus-List 37+ Backstay tension
With that info I'll head do
We will be rigging our (new to us) 33 mk-2 for the first time next week.
The chain plates are pads (about 4" x 4") on deck with three "slots" for the
shrouds. A single horizontal fore-and-aft pin ties the shrouds to the plate.
Question:
What's the correct fore-and-aft mounting order for the shr
Chuck
It's a Schaefer and was installed by the PO. He
went with the BETA, which is borderline too small
for the boat. But it works. Just have to be
very careful about the thickness of the main or
it will not fit. Our new UK main barely
fits. Having a full battened main is a good
thing
Westerbeke 33 w v drive
Last year motored all 34 hours from Newport to Maine
No power loss. No overheat stayed at 180 no white froth in the oil at oil
change in winter and when motoring only saw white smoke if high high humidity
day when I took it up river to put on the hard. And once foggy da
I use a service of oil condition analysis in my International 7.3 diesel.
Before trying anything, send in a sample and see what the 'brownish orange'
is.
https://www.blackstone-labs.com/marine.php
Fleet managers use oil analysis to determine the length of time between
services and to troubleshoot.
Here's the data guys. It looks like there is a loose corollary (in my
case) between hydraulic psi and backstay lbs load. My hydraulic pump
relief valve is seized and appently set at ~2600 psi. So I'm safe in that
no matter how much I pump it will never exceed even 25% of the backstay
load limit.
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Hi Josh,
Were you able to get the hydraulic ram displacement vs. back stay
load? That would help those of us who don't have a working pressure gauge.
Gary
S/V Kaylarah
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On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 5:28 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Here's the
Lew Townshend identified my rams a #6...whatever that means.
On Fri, Aug 3, 2018, 7:36 PM Gary Russell via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Hi Josh,
> Were you able to get the hydraulic ram displacement vs. back stay
> load? That would help those of us who don't have a working pre
>> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2018 12:16:03 -0400
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>> Tom,
>> Can you tell me more about your boom furler?
Adrian
I think the uppers go to the front, the smaller rod intermediates are in the
centre and the lowers are to the rear. Was down to the boat and checked, that
is the order.
Brad
C&C 33 Mk II "Pulse"
Lake Huron
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