Hello C&C Listers!
Season's Greetings!
May this Winter be filled with festivities, joyous hymns and warm smiles.
Let the coming year find peace, prosperity, health and harmony within your
family,
friends and all your closest ones.
Stu ‘n’ Gladys
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I used to do my own boat, but then a diver moved in two slips down and would do
the boat for about $40. Well worth it. Then he retired and I went back to doing
it myself since the regular guy is about $160 or so. I am ordering a long hose
for next year because getting the whole BC and weight rig
Put a checkmark for me in the column of 50’ hose with regulator and a tank
sitting on the dock. Works well without all the hassle of a BCD. Although I
can’t really “stand” on the bottom cleaning the bottom is not a terribly
strenuous activity.
Saves much money from having a diver clean the bott
I made a rig that uses an outdoor broom with stiff bristles, and some
flotation that screws onto the end of a boat hook. It makes bottom
cleaning at a slip a short, and relatively easy job. I'm now on a
mooring, and have to work my way around the boat, tying the dinghy to
the railing as I go. I
Merry Christmas to you Stu and Gladys,
and many thanks for providing us with this list.
Your efforts truly are appreciated.
Steve Thomas
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From: Stu via CnC-List
To: C&C Email List
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 8:32 AM
Subject: Stus-List Seasons' Greet
One better: lay a length (two feet?) of line (3/8 or so) in the low spot and
hang about a foot of it through one of the toe rail holes and over the side. It
will wick the water out even better than a sponge.
Gary
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To: Bill Bina - g
I am replacing the old sanitation hose from the pump out fitting to the hand
pump (used when we are offshore) and from the pump to the thru hull outlet.
The Trident Sani Shield seems to be a favorite (1.5 inches ID) but has a bigger
OD than other hoses. Does anyone know its OD? - it will be ea
Eric,
I just replaced a sanitation hose. I think I used Vetus. The wall was
about 1/4 inch, making the outside diameter 2 inches. I can measure a
piece of scrap in the next couple days. The Raritan is probably the most
flexible and is priced accordingly!
Joel
On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 11:06 AM
There's an outfit called Dri-Diver which makes a device like you described. I
hope they are still around, because I need a new scrub pad.
It is about 6 inches wide and 3 feet long. A scotch brite style pad hooks to a
plastic (maybe 1/8 inch thick) backing strip which has half a dozen cylinders
I looked at Dri Diver before making my rig for about $15-$20. In fact,
it was my original inspiration. One big difference is that my system can
do the keel. I also wondered if the scotch brite pad might be a little
too aggressive on my ablative bottom paint. Different strokes I guess! :-)
Bill
Several years back, I switched antifouling paint from Micron CSC to
Micron 66.. Micron 66 is very effective in controlling algae growth,
at least it is in our climatefor all of those that are bottom
cleaning every month, maybe Micron 66 would minimize that work.Just
a thought.
Rob
Anyone know the location of the blackwater tank in C&C 26' - I'm thinking
that it's bout time to change hoses! I have drained and flushed but there
is the beginning of an odor. We don't use the toilet while moored in the
marina and do keep it empty.
Regards, Merry Christmas!!!
Dan
C&C 26' "Only
Dan, ours was under the v-berth, port side. One of the first things we did was
remove it, the head, and the hoses. After a few good cleanings, the open pit
privy smell dissipated.
We sprung for an Airhead and don't have to mess with sewer plumbing on the boat.
Evan
1978 C&C 26 Encounter
-Or
How do you like the airhead?
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Evan Morgan
via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 12:51 PM
To: Dan Utinske; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 26' Blackwater Tank
Dan, ours w
Love it. We've learned a few tricks, but it's a dead simple piece of kit.
As long as you remember to keep a couple of Tbsp of white sugar in the urine
tank, it's much more palatable than a traditional head.
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From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List"
Sent: 12/23/2014 12:5
Eric,
Have you seen this:
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0419/9489/files/PS1312_War_Against_Head_Odors_2_reprint1404_web.pdf
?
This is a Practical Sailor's test. For whatever reason the PDF of the
results is available on that web site.
Despite the popular opinion that Trident 101/102 ar
Bob showed me his hull last week. The boat was hauled and not pressure washed
this Fall and had not been scrubbed all season. The bottom of the hull looked
about the same as all those that had been pressure washed by the yard. I am
most impressed with the anti fouling characteristics of Micon
Where did you find the "air head" toilet? We are looking for a toilet for
our boat house that does not require plumbing. We tried a composting toilet
and found it to be disgusting and trashed it after just 1 summer.
Jack Fitzgerald
HONEY - US12788
C&C 39 TM
Savannah, GA USA
On Tue, Dec 23, 2014
I switched from Trinidad to Trinidad SR this season. My diver was so
impressed she is using it on her boat. Don't know if you can buy it up
North or how it would perform there.
Joel
35/3
Annapolis
On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Bob s
I think the Air Head and Natures Head are both composting Toilets.
Regards,
Bill Coleman
C&C 39
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Fitzgerald via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 1:20 PM
To: Evan Morgan; C&CList
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C
Joel,
Was she impressed enough to give you a discount? ;-)
Cheers,
Dave
1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 23, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List
> wrote:
>
> I switched from Trinidad to Trinidad SR this season. My diver was so
> impressed she is using it on her boa
Technically, they're desiccating toilets, but most people know them as
composting.
Jack, I don't know what brand you had, but the cheap ones found through camping
stores can be disgusting.
We know quite a few folks with the Air Head and we're unanimous in our
satisfaction. We all, however, make
Yikes. I tried the Natures Head and it awful...Having said, it did get a
lot of use over the summer but simply wasn't what we expected..
Best regards,
Jack Fitzgerald
On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> I think the Air Head and Natures He
Thanks, Evan
Best regards,
Jack Fitzgerald
On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Evan Morgan via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Technically, they're desiccating toilets, but most people know them as
> composting.
> Jack, I don't know what brand you had, but the cheap ones found through
>
Put me in the DIY bottom cleaning group my diver retired and headed for the
islands on his boat. I either use a tank on the dock with a hose to standard
regulator. It is shallow enough that I can use the bottom for leverage. I
use a shortie if the water temp is under 80. (AC in the house just kic
Dan,I don't think a blackwater system came as standard on a 26. I think it was just pump overboard. Late '70's wasn't that eco-friendly. However, my blackwater tank
Sam,
It has the freshwater tank in the same location as yours so I suspect I'll
find the holding tank where you suggest though the pump out is on the
starboard side. I'm at a junction on if I should keep the current
configuration and update the hoses or switch to the composite. I've read
where b
I am very interested in the Micron 66 bottom paint. Rob, is your boat in
fresh, salt, or brackish water?
Merry Christmas to everyone on the list!!!
Bob Boyer
S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD
1983 C&C Landfall 38 - Hull #230
email: dainyr...@icloud.com
blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
"There is nothi
I have used Micron 66 and got 4.5 years with out cleaning except for
knocking off the big chunks. Now I am using Blue Sea 45% ablative. still no
cleaning. Have a diver replace my shaft zincs twice a year, he will also
clean the paddle wheels for the knot meters. When the bottom shows signs of
being
Dan,My pump out is on the starboard side too.The "Y" valve, manual pump and through hull are on the port side, all under the V berth just forward of the head bulkhead.
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Original message
From: Kim Brown via CnC-List
Date:12/23/2014 1:45 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Diving your own boat
Put me in the DIY bottom cleaning group my diver retired and headed for
Bob:
Our boat is in saltwater.I used Micron CSC for many years with
excellent results.at the end of the each sailing season, the bottom
had a film of algae which was removed at haulout with a pressure wash.
Even after the pressure wash, the Micron CSC would remain somewhat
stained in
Bottom paint effectiveness, like politics, is all local. I have had Micron 66
for the past 6 years and the bottom has to be cleaned every 2 weeks from mid
July through September. That is considerably better than the VC Offshore I had
previously which had to be cleaned every week. We are club
Agreed that bottom paint is all local.
In warm water such as I have in southern/western Florida, the soft paints such
as Micron and CSC are no good at all.
Everyone I know uses Trinidad. At the boatyard where I used to haul in Fort
Lauderdale, I don’t think they even stocked other brands. If th
As long as the boat is fast Joel, that’s all that matters. Right?
I dove on my boat yesterday. Water temp was 45F. After the initial chill, it
wasn’t bad at all. My thin coating of VC Offshore is still working its magic.
I will haul shortly anyway though.
Jake
Jake Brodersen
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None of the local boatyards allow bottom cleaning in slips (we are in a river
and the consequences are not good if they have to dredge and there's any copper
in the sediment). Do any others have this restriction?
Tim
Branford, CT
> On Dec 23, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List
> w
Kim,
Unless the compressor you're using is meant for snorkeling, I wouldn't use
it. You don't know what kind of microscopic particles may be in the air.
Brownie makes some good stuff, but it isn't cheap either. If you're going
to inhale deeply, I would rather not do it through a cheapo compresso
Friend of mine uses it on his boat.
We bought it in Portland and drove it across the border.
Declared it as boat parts!
sam :-)
From: CnC
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 2:44 PM
To: Robert Boyer, CnC
Bob:
Our boat is in saltwater.I used Micron CSC for many years
After a number of years using Hydrocoat and having the diver every two weeks
(gently, it is ablative and soft) and having about a quarter of it gone by
haulout (every fall), I switched to Hydrocoat SR two years ago. I didn't haul
this past spring (no time) and had a diver as usual. By each secon
> Do any others have this restriction?
Most if not all marinas in the PNW forbid cleaning ablative paint. “If it
leaves a cloud it cannot be cleaned.” Shilshole Bay Marina has a “best
practices” type document moorage customers need to sign. The use of cleaning
products that leave bubbles is
Appreciate the concern. It is an oilless compressor theoretically designed
for hookah use. Seems to be a Chinese knock off of one of the standard
hookah compressors. It is cheap and the 'rated to 5 meters' is a big stretch
(maybe if you don't breath;-) but it is good enough to get me down 5' to the
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Interlux has added Biolux to some of their products available in the US.
The same base product sold in Canada is not available with Biolux.
As an example Interlux Canada sells VC-17m, Interlux US sells VC-17m Extra
with Biolux.
http://www.yachtpaint.com/can/diy/products/antifouling/vc-17m.aspx
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Good stuff in response to my questions.
I think I will continue on to get dive certified just because it sounds like
fun. I have some experience diving but never got certified. I know people who
are but over time I’m sure that little complication will become more of a
hassle than I want to d
Gary
I have been using a dri-diver for years now and the pad is shot. I
can't find anyplace that will replace it I was wondering if we could by the
stuff by the sq ft or sq yd hope someone can help on this. I think it is a 3m
product I will keep looking for now.
I used 66 one year in Solomons MD. While it worked through the year just
fine, the day I hauled the boat the paint pealed off in sheets as soon as
the water dried. A discussion with Micron revealed that that is common if
the paint is used in freshwater. They didn't expect the brackish waters of
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