I'm in the early stages of converting Imzadi from an old Galley Maid alcohol
stove to a propane stove. I got a great deal on a Flavel stove from a friend
who decided to install a 3 burner model in his trawler after already
purchasing the two burner stove I bought from him. That made propane a "when
The first year is the toughest.
I once tried to describe this to my crew:
Imagine you have a $45,000 dollar car, then you pay someone to renovate and
paint it to the tune of $30,000, then invite 7 of your closest friends to
Party, Romp and drink on top it in their shoes, winch handles and all!
The valves will drive you nuts. My grill tank has one and it causes a lot of
low gas pressure issues.
Joe Della Barba
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I have a new backyard BBQ made by Webber with the OPV valve. Unless I go
through a specific lighting procedure, the burners will not light. The new
valve, once opened at the tank, requires time to equalize the pressure in the
line before the burners can be started. This can be 60 seconds to 120
Rick,
I use Sure Marine for Calypso's propane and diesel furnace parts and service.
They would be up to date if you want information on what equipment retail
propane filling stations are required to check.
Sure Marine - www.suremarine.com
5320 28th Avenue NW, Seattle, Washington 98107
800-562-
I have started a project to renew the windows on my 1976 C&C 38. The
current cabin windows are the original aluminum frame windows and are
fogged and leaky. I'm debating between repairing with new gaskets and
acrylic or just replacing with lewmar portlights. The lewmar's would be
slightly larger bu
Are the U.S. fuel handling regulations national or state?
Your letter would imply that they are national, but I am wondering if both
levels of government have an oar in.
I am pretty sure that the details vary by province here, at least they used to.
Steve Thomas
C&C27 MKIII
Port Stanley, ON
You can go ahead and use the old-style valves; at least until you run out of
propane. As far as I know, you can NOT get non-OPV tanks refilled anywhere in
the U.S. any more.
And if your tanks are old enough, you can't retrofit the OPV valves without
getting the tanks re-certified first. You'r
I had to replace a tank when I couldn't get it filled, because it didn't have
an OPV release valve. It was too old so I didn't have a valve installed.
Aluminum tanks are expensive, so it might be cost effective to have valves
installed.
Alan Bergen
C&C 35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portla
Assuming I get a OPV valve, how is that going to effect the operation of my
propane stove and water heater? The water heater is a demand system that
lights when water flows.
Another question; can I get the clear fiber glass tanks that are tall and
narrow to fit the locker?
Still; anot
Frank,
I expect Sure Marine could answer some of your questions over the phone. I
have gone into their shop with all sorts of propane or Webasto install/repair
questions and they have been helpful and often pull the needed parts of the
shelf. Once they opened a big box of PH measuring strips
If you want to remove the frames without bending them (much), use a
machete. After removing the screws, tap the machete down along the top edge
between the frame and the cabin top and then gently pry. I wish I had used
that method on all four frames.
The old spline was shot and I couldn't find a re
I am too busy now, but tonight I will write up how I did mine. It actually is
not that hard.
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I 40 years of C&C sailing 1973 to 2013
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Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 1:55 PM
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On Jan 23, 2013, at 1:54 PM, Fred Hazzard wrote:
> Assuming I get a OPV valve, how is that going to effect the operation of my
> propane stove and water heater? The water heater is a demand system that
> lights when water flows.
I switched over the valves on my system a few years back, and h
Re-bed the frames into the cabin top with butyl tape. You can get a big
roll for $10 at a Recreational Vehicle (RV) store. Refrigerate before using
and will be easier (less sticky) to work with.
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Bob Moriarty wrote:
> If you want to remove the frames without bendi
What mine does is barely run 1 burner out of 4. It seems to get stuck partway
or Seems to be worse with a fresh fill.
Joe Della Barba
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Street
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Su
I got a fiberglass tank that fit in the existing locker. Fiberglass tanks have
to be recertified. I think the interval is every five years.
The OPV valve will not affect the operation of your stove or hot water heater.
Alan Bergen
C&C 35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR
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The extruded aluminum framed windows are very easy to rebed.
First -if there is no leak around the outside of teh aluminum then leave
the frames in place.
Remove the old spline and foam gasket and the pane will come out.
Contact South Shore Yachts for new spine and gasket or if you are
resour
Does the OPV valve requirement also apply to CNG?
Bob M
Ox 33-1
Jax, FL
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No. CNG is not a liquid and cannot be overfilled the same way.
Joe Della Barba
CNG STOVE USER ;)
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Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 3:16 PM
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I replaced one of Touche's old aluminum frame ports with a Lewmar. Very pleased
with the job. It wasn't overly difficult. The only trick was to ensure uniform
spacing between the cabin structure and headliner. I used small dowels to shim
as necessary. You could use tongue depressors, Popsicle st
MB (MD?) building products EPDM D weatherstripping gasket works. Can find it at
Lowes.
Dennis C.
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On Jan 23, 2013, at 1:15 PM, "Hoyt, Mike" wrote:
> The extruded aluminum framed windows are very easy to rebed.
>
> First -if there is no leak around the outside of teh alum
Is it possible to buy OPV valves and for a reasonably handy person to
install and then get tank and valve certified?
Fred Hazzard
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G Street
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 12:08 PM
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Subjec
Dennis,
I'm leaning towards the Lewmars, just want to make sure that there isn't some
disadvantage that I'm not seeing. The install looks very straightforward so I
don't think I need the pics but thanks for the offer.
James
Delaney
1976 C&C 38
Oriental, NC
- Original Message -
From:
Mike,
Thanks for the info. On my boat the cabin windows are only 24" x 6". Lewmar
standard portlight size 4 is 24.75" x 6.75" so I only have to enlarge the
opening by 3/4" in each dimension and make sure that the corner radius is
correct. The deck in this area does not have any core, it's just s
One the first one that I already removed I used a 4" stiff blade putty knife.
That worked very well and I got it out with no damage. Looks like finding the
spine and gasket shouldn't be a problem and I'll use butyl to reinstall the
frames if I decide to go the rebuild route.
James
Delaney
1976
Here is response the Webber BBQ manufacturer provided me when I complained of a
malfunctioning OPV valve:
Hello,
Thank you for choosing Weber! I'm sorry for the gas flow issues you are having
with your Genesis E-330 gas grill. If the grill is having intermittent problems
with lighting, possibl
Really, I wouldn't try this myself; any sort of accident or explosion, and your
insurance company would refuse to pay, and rightly so. It doesn't cost that
much that I'd take the chance.
And I don't think the propane places that do this work would sell you just the
valve, in any case.
Fred St
Dunno about y'all down south, but up here in Kanada ALL propane work has to be
done by licensed tradesmen and installers. As Fred sez, do it right! Blam
Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
Halifax
On 2013-01-23, at 18:41, Frederick G Street wrote:
Really, I wouldn't try this myself; any sort of acc
I had my 10lb aluminum tank re-valved and re-certified a couple years ago.
I seem to recall it was about 1/4 of the cost of a new aluminum tank.
I brought it to a local place "American Compressed Gas" that refills
propane tanks.
I am sure if they can't re-certify they will tell you.
Eric
C&C 34/
Hey Rich
How much effort you figure those tradesmen put into recertifying a 20 lb
tank.have a quick look, stamp on a new expiry date and give it a fresh paint
job or something more sophisticated like ultrasonic or hydrostatic testing?
It's getting harder and harder to find a place to get a
The recertifying process is supposed to pressure test the tank I believe. I
have two ten lb aluminum tanks that Superior propane inspected and revalved a
few years back. I think it cost me about $40 a tank. I buy my propane by the
pound at Costco. The tank exchange business is not cheap and they
Has anyone ever experienced a very funk-ay smell from under the stringer that
supports the mast?
Ours is stepped to the keel but the mast appears to be resting on a +/- 6" wide
x 4" tall x 12" long block that is glassed to adjacent stringers.
There is a small crack in the glass and if there is
Rick,
NFPA 58 LP Gas Code (2011 edition) says all tanks have to have OPD
protection, with the exceptions of cylinders used for powered industrial
trucks and industrial welding and cutting. With that, I think you would be
hard pressed to find a facility in the US that would refill an old style
tan
No propane supplier in South Jersey will refill the old style tanks.
I got a beautiful aluminum tank with our boat, can't use it unless I change the
head. FIve years ago, the conversion to new head with float was close to $100.
I found a steel cylinder that fit fine for $45 at a Camping store, p
Dwight,
Here I am all safety minded and you spoil it with common sense.
Thanks. Now I can start using that aluminum tank, by refilling it myself..
Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Atlantic City, NJ
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Whenever I cure my stench, I'll let you all know.
Jake
Jake Brodersen
C&C 35 Mk-III
Midnight Mistress
Hampton VA
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