Stus-List Re: rudder seam

2021-04-28 Thread Garry Cross via CnC-List
584-7255 >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Garry Cross via CnC-List >> To: Stus-List >> Cc: Garry Cross >> Sent: Mon, Apr 26, 2021 2:25 pm >> Subject: Stus-List Re: rudder seam >> >> I have a 35MkII. I had a crack near the top of t

Stus-List Re: rudder seam

2021-04-28 Thread Garry Cross via CnC-List
ite Nine > Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 > 502-584-7255 > > > -Original Message- > From: Garry Cross via CnC-List > To: Stus-List > Cc: Garry Cross > Sent: Mon, Apr 26, 2021 2:25 pm > Subject: Stus-List Re: rudder seam > > I have a 35MkII. I had a crack

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2021-04-26 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
I had no problem carrying my 35 MK I rudder around, it was much lighter than I thought it would be. Joe Della Barba From: G Gao via CnC-List Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 2:54 PM To: Stus-List Cc: G Gao Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: rudder seam Does anyone know the weight of a rudder

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2021-04-26 Thread G Gao via CnC-List
via CnC-List > To: Stus-List > Cc: Garry Cross > Sent: Mon, Apr 26, 2021 2:25 pm > Subject: Stus-List Re: rudder seam > > I have a 35MkII. I had a crack near the top of the rudder. I thought I > fixed it by wrapping the crack with a couple of sheets of glass, fairing > e

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2021-04-26 Thread Richard Bush via CnC-List
ucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Garry Cross via CnC-List To: Stus-List Cc: Garry Cross Sent: Mon, Apr 26, 2021 2:25 pm Subject: Stus-List Re: rudder seam I have a 35MkII. I had a crack near the top of the rudder. I thought I fixed it by wrapping the crack with a co

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2021-04-26 Thread Garry Cross via CnC-List
I have a 35MkII. I had a crack near the top of the rudder. I thought I fixed it by wrapping the crack with a couple of sheets of glass, fairing etc. Attempted to seal the shaft. I was new and didn't know anything about fixing boats. Anyway it cracked again. Learned about draining the rudder in the

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2021-04-26 Thread Richard Klajnscek via CnC-List
A couple of rudder thoughts to add to this discussion. One is that the early C&Cs, like the original 1971 rudder on my 30, used mild steel for the webbing on the SS rudder post. Once water gets in there and the steel rusts, you can add rust expansion to the ice expansion to destroy the thing - w

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2021-04-25 Thread Dave S via CnC-List
Interesting thought. Some discussion here: https://www.boatdesign.net/threads/stailess-steel-rudder.27641/ Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 25, 2021, at 11:34 AM, Joel Delamirande via CnC-List > wrote: > >  > I wonder how much the cost difference redoing > A foam rudder and stainless ru

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2021-04-25 Thread Joel Delamirande via CnC-List
I wonder how much the cost difference redoing A foam rudder and stainless rudder The stainless idea I saw it on YouTube Now there sailing the Bahamas and they love it On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 11:30 AM G Gao via CnC-List wrote: > Thx Joe. Unfortunately I am not equipped to do this...need to start

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2021-04-25 Thread G Gao via CnC-List
Thx Joe. Unfortunately I am not equipped to do this...need to start preparing the admiral to approve a big budget! On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 10:08 AM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I saw a boat that was only about 3 years old with a rudder split from ice. > Some peop

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2021-04-25 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
I saw a boat that was only about 3 years old with a rudder split from ice. Some people have holes drilled in their rudders at the bottom they drill out in the fall and then epoxy closed before launch. My boat is not out of the water in the winter, so I have not had this issue. A buddy with a C&

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2021-04-24 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
That is relative. Depends on whether you fix it yourself, or pay to have somebody do it. YouTube maybe your friend. Bill On Sat, Apr 24, 2021, 9:11 PM G Gao via CnC-List wrote: > this sounds like an expensive problem... > > On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 6:53 PM Joel Delamirande via CnC-List < > cnc-l

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2021-04-24 Thread Dave S via CnC-List
Bo - I won’t speak to the black magic of moisture meter expectations but a large, widening crack probably speaks for itself unfortunately. Another poster referred to the freeze/thaw cycle when trapped water is present, and trapped frozen water is definitely not normal or good in any way. It

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2021-04-24 Thread G Gao via CnC-List
this sounds like an expensive problem... On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 6:53 PM Joel Delamirande via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Or have someone build a stainless rubber and water tight > On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 5:38 PM John and Maryann Read via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote

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2021-04-24 Thread G Gao via CnC-List
Hi Dwight, I did not check, as I don't know how; but when I did my insurance last year, I was told by multiple people that water inside the rudder was "normal" and they will have high moisture reading. or am I wrong in my understanding? Bo On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 7:28 PM dwight veinot via CnC-L

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2021-04-24 Thread Dave S via CnC-List
Bo - I Just looked more closely at the pic and as others have inferred I think it would be extremely unlikely that the rudder is intact inside. Looks like rust stains at the bottom of the nearly full length crack. Fwiw, I wouldn’t be comfortable simply patching it it if it were mine. Anot

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2021-04-24 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
Looks serious to me. Did you check for water inside the rudder? On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 6:14 PM G Gao via CnC-List wrote: > Continuing my adventure with sailing and my boat...looking for advise from > experienced sailors, as always... > > Today as I was observing the hull condition, I found that

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2021-04-24 Thread Joel Delamirande via CnC-List
Or have someone build a stainless rubber and water tight On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 5:38 PM John and Maryann Read via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hate to say it, but looks to me like a classic case of a water logged > rudder freezing which expands the water forcing the weak point (seam

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2021-04-24 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Cracks like that often happen when a water logged rudder freezes in the off season. Mine was not cracked but it was very saturated. The attached link shows what was involved when the fiberglass guy did the repairs. https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8pEh5lnvP1yVUdWUDNxVGFUcDA Dan Cormier

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2021-04-24 Thread Dave S via CnC-List
If that’s a crack then yes it could be serious and yes you can repair it, but if there are structural concerns it may become more involved than you are comfortable with. The issue is water ingress and whether parts may have separated or delaminated. I don’t know that boat but it is likely a co

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2021-04-24 Thread John and Maryann Read via CnC-List
Hate to say it, but looks to me like a classic case of a water logged rudder freezing which expands the water forcing the weak point (seam) to crack open. Fix is to drop the rudder, cut out one side, clean and dry it out, ensure rudder stock is sound, rebuild (foam and new glass skin), seal the