Stus-List Electronics upgrade

Ok, We'll I've got a good start on the electronics. I've got the radar cable run up the mast and the second cable routed nicely through the boat and to the cockpit locker.  That was a chore!  I've also run a fish tape to get the transducer wires out of the bilge.  I need a good messenger line t

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yes I have the st 60 pack wind, speed and depth all tied together by seatalk...the old system seems very simple but the algorithms used to resolve the input vectors seem to give good numbers considering that calibrating boat speed readings to be accurate on both tacks goes...I have checked my winds

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the speed transducer, but not as happy as if you hadn't had it and been disappointed, and then got it. Bill Coleman C&C 39  Erie PA Original message From: John Pennie via CnC-List Date: 08/13/2015 7:11 PM (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: John Pennie Subject: St

Stus-List Electronics Upgrade

Reluctantly I’ve yielded to the logic and will be adding both a knot meter and dedicated radar/chart plotter. Fred - The Nobeltec radar product was interesting but I couldn’t get past the dedicated wifi network (or two wifi networks) Kudos to whoever first mentioned the need for the knot meter

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first. In my setup I did not connect the power lead between the Seatalk bus and the converter. Michael Brown Windburn C&C 30-1 Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 17:30:03 -0400 From: PME To: CnClist , Michael Brown Subject: Re: Stus-List Electronics upgrade-> SPX-5 with Seatalk and     Seatal

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S/V Johanna Rose Carrabelle, FL > On Aug 13, 2015, at 4:05 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: > > Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 12:30:38 -0400 > From: Michael Brown mailto:m...@tkg.ca>> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-

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en seconds count, so guessing at a heading, sail and sail trim helps. Winning by 68 seconds on a 27 hours race - priceless  ;-) Mike Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 12:48:02 -0300 From: dwight veinot To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Subject: Re: Stus-List Electronics upgrade Message-ID:

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Dwight — do you also have an ST60 Speed in the system? If so (and I expect you probably do…), that’s how your wind instrument can calculate TWA and TWS. Otherwise you’re stuck with just AWA and AWS. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI > On Aug 13, 201

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gt; compass ( usually connected to the Autohelm ). > > Michael Brown > Windburn > C&C 30-1 > > Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 13:24:55 -0300 > From: Ken Heaton > To: cnc-list > Subject: Re: Stus-List Electronics upgrade > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plai

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comes from the fluxgate compass ( usually connected to the Autohelm ). Michael Brown Windburn C&C 30-1 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 13:24:55 -0300 From: Ken Heaton To: cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List Electronics upgrade Message-ID:     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

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Hi, Don — looking at the ST2000+ manual, there is only NMEA018 INPUT; no output. The heading info may be on the SeaTalk bus (you’d need to ask Raymarine to confirm); but you’d need to convert that to NMEA2000/SeaTalkNG in order to use it with the i50/i60/i70 instruments. The Raymarine SeaTalkN

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Hi Fred, hmmm Will a Raymarine tiller pilot St2000+ also provide heading ... assuming no other magnetic to list after? Don V34 Life > On Aug 12, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List > wrote: > > your autopilot should be sending “fast” (10 Hz) heading info over its > NMEA0183 i

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Ken — your autopilot should be sending “fast” (10 Hz) heading info over its NMEA0183 interface; the NMEA0183 data can be converted into NMEA2000 using something like the Actisense NGW-1-STNG: http://www.actisense.com/products/nmea-2000/ngw-1/ngw-1.html

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Sorry Fred, I wasn't clear. I was referring to the true wind display on a Raymatine i60 Wind. Raymarine Tech online says it needs a source of heading (and speed through the water which it gets from the i50 Speed already installed) to be able to display true wind? What are possible sources for hea

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good shape for free. I suppose that is the case for most of us. Michael Brown Windburn C&C 30-1 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 14:11:56 -0400 From: Andrew Burton To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Subject: Re: Stus-List Electronics upgrade Message-ID:     Content-Type: text/plain; chars

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Ken — let’s not confuse True Wind Direction with True Wind Angle. Yes, you would need heading info for true wind direction; but true wind angle is referenced to the bow of the boat. The "True Wind" vectors that display on the Raymarine chartplotters are, I believe, just TWA referenced to COG b

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vard [mailto:jfriv...@us.ibm.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 8:26 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: firewa...@reinardy.us Subject: Stus-List Electronics upgrade My Zeus2 uses COG from the integrated GPS. I don't have a magnetic compass feed but do I have TWD, VMG to Wind and Marker et all wor

Stus-List Electronics upgrade

-Francois Rivard 1990 34+ "Take Five" Lake Lanier, GA Message: 7 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 23:00:54 + From: Jim Reinardy To: , Subject: Re: Stus-List Electronics upgrade Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" When I put in my B&G system I was surprised t

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I'm pretty sure the Raymarine Wind needs course from an outside source to display True Wind. The source of course info could be an autopilot or other compass in the system. I'm sure Fred can confirm that. Ken H. On 11 August 2015 at 20:00, Jim Reinardy via CnC-List wrote: > When I put in my B

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When I put in my B&G system I was surprised to figure out that not only did it need a knot meter for TWD, it wanted a compass transducer as well. The Zeus units won't use their internal COG data for the boat heading let alone speed. One other note about iPads. I recently chartered an older boat

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Pass through many bridges but the only thing that causes my autopilot to get crazy is when my cell phone is next to it. Curious about a handheld. Will try that. On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 9:10 AM D Harben via CnC-List wrote: > ... Argh yes! I carry a VHF/DSC/GPS and knife on me as I single hand...

Stus-List Electronics upgrade

So here's another 2 cents. My Garmin chartplotter has not yet lost a GPS signal. My smartphones (Androids all) do, when the clouds get real thick. Such is the value of the antenna. I was extremely thankful for the chartplotter going into Woods Hole in pea soup. That said, the charts on my pho

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Interesting comment - thanks. Curious if that is still the case. John > On Aug 11, 2015, at 1:58 PM, Michael Brown via CnC-List > wrote: > > >> I wouldn't install a knot meter - Gps is fine > > No idea with the newer i50/60/70 series, but the older Raymarine > wind instruments used speed fr

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Michael — you’re correct, you need boat speed through the water to calculate TWA and TWS from the AWA and AWS you get from the masthead wind transducer. I’ve not seen it calculated using GPS SOG. And you definitely need to be able to compare boat speed and heading with SOG/COG to calculate set

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dburn > C&C 30-1 > > > > Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 10:18:47 -0500 > From: Frederick G Street > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Electronics upgrade > Message-ID: <0f6f2727-374d-4a7a-b461-d3cb7ef6e...@postaudio.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; char

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I suppose I can jump into the fray since I'm finishing up the install a new e7D Raymarine plotter/radar. I like this unit because I can access it via wifi on my iPad. I like Raymarine because unlike Furuno and B&G/Simrad, I find their equipment to be very intuitive to operate. last year my outdated

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Fred - agree on the dome itself just curious on the reliability of the router. Also, I would think the dedicated Furuno network is a nuisance at best. John > On Aug 11, 2015, at 11:18 AM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List > wrote: > > Not too many listers chiming in on this topic. Anyone?

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Frederick G Street To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Electronics upgrade Message-ID: <0f6f2727-374d-4a7a-b461-d3cb7ef6e...@postaudio.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Not too many listers chiming in on this topic.  Anyone?  Is everyone else out

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John, the biggest problem with the IPad is keeping it charged. A waterproof case is not waterproof if there is a wire dangling out of it (unless I bought the wrong case). Be sure you have a 2.4 amp socket- most are 2.1 amps. Carry extra charging cables. Salt air rusts them out in no time! Secon

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Curious what your experience has been re power and bad weather. The reasoning behind using an iPad as opposed to a purpose built plotter is that the iPad will be aboard regardless. It’s the plotter that is the extra piece. Again, keep in mind this is assuming a waterproof iPad case and mount

Re: Stus-List Electronics upgrade now Luddite Alert!

... Argh yes! I carry a VHF/DSC/GPS and knife on me as I single hand... however ... Getting close to the Raymarine 2000+ causes it to lust after them ... Don V34 NCYC > On Aug 11, 2015, at 11:56 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List > wrote: > > magnetic interference probably caused by cables crossing t

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I enjoy sailing by what I see wind doing and anticipating the changes coming by observing water, clouds and shorelines. When I have raced with wind instruments I have found them useful to backup and verify my thinking but not as a primary tool. I am wondering about an accurate flu gate compass a

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Truly. As I found out last year when passing through a bridge. Some magnetic interference probably caused by cables crossing the channel caused my wheel pilot to turn sharply to port. Had I not quickly disengaged it, it could have been ugly. Dennis C. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 11, 2015,

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all the electronics goes down. > > And they will. > > At the worst possible time. > > David F. Risch > 1980-40-2 > (401) 419-4650 (cell) > > > -- > Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 11:30:34 -0400 > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: R

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Nuttin’ to sail, so I’ll chuck my two cents in. You are correct, Fred. I ran my old Furuno CRT radar for 18 years, and it’s still going strong with the new owner, never let me down, and never tried to jump overboard as phones and pads sometimes do. I find that laptops are excessive power consum

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all the electronics goes down. And they will. At the worst possible time. David F. Risch 1980-40-2 (401) 419-4650 (cell) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 11:30:34 -0400 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Electronics upgrade From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com CC: joel.aron...@gmail.com Fred

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Sanding. Not sailing... I'm in agreement with dedicated marine units with iPad-like devices as additional sources of info. Will be segregating electronics when rebuild projects nears the end. Of course at my present rate of work most instruments will use virtual reality outputs... Dave 1982 C&

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Don, Congrats! I don't have the latest OS on my plotter, but the Ray app. drops in and out on my boat. I'd want wind before radar, but we don't have fog on the Chesapeake. Joel On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 11:32 AM, D Harben via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I am following closely! I

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> I am following closely! I have been giving Signet antiques TLC, while using > an iPad Air in a LifeProof case. The iPad has navionics chart plotting, AIS > over cell etc etc etc. My iPhone 5 carries the identical software and > settings as backup. The downside is keeping waterproof power is

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Fred, You gave the definitive answer! I agree you want data to be shared but the displays to work independently of each other so if, for example, the radar display fails you can still get data on the plotter etc. Also, the autopilot should be connected to the plotter, especially if you sail in an

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Not too many listers chiming in on this topic. Anyone? Is everyone else out sailing? Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI > On Aug 10, 2015, at 12:17 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List > wrote: > > John — like most Furuno gear, I imagine the black

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John — like most Furuno gear, I imagine the black-box radar is pretty reliable. My concern is with the other gear needed to use it. If you’re going to spend that much on buying and installing a system, you want it to work when you need it. And that’s generally when conditions are bad; which i

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mas C&C27 MKIII - Original Message - From: John Pennie via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: John Pennie Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 22:07 Subject: Re: Stus-List Electronics upgrade Thanks for the input. Fred - my thoughts on the iPad dependent issue (and I fu

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Thanks for the input. Fred - my thoughts on the iPad dependent issue (and I fully understand your point), this all assumes a semi-permanent iPad installation with built in charging. Beyond that you have your spare iPad, smart phone, pc in the cabin, etc. Very interesting thought on the VHF s

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Since Fred the technical expert inquired as to what others would recommend. Here goes. Before getting into it though i have to say that everything Fred said is spot on if you're going to upgrade and do it right. There are a lot of good reasons to have everything talk to one another AND for havin

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Hi, John. No, you’re not crazy; just be careful with mixing and matching equipment from different vendors. And as long as you’re putting in modern electronics, there’s no reason I can think of to NOT integrate all of them together; you get benefits like autopilot steering to wind angle or to

Stus-List Electronics upgrade

The basic electronics (b&g h1000 system) on Paws have been a challenge since I first got her. Intermittent failures at the start of each season. Now depth has failed and of all things it appears to be the transducer. I'm debating modernizing. Please tell me if I'm crazy. A little background