Re: Stus-List C&C 30 Mast Step

2018-01-21 Thread Collin Ferguson via CnC-List
perties. The crew laughed and said I didn't want it, they could barely cut it even with sharp chains. Michael Brown Windburn C&C 30-1 Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 13:38:23 -0500 From: Bill Bina - gmail To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 30 Mast Step Message-ID: <0

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 Mast Step

2018-01-20 Thread Edward Levert via CnC-List
arely cut it even > with sharp chains. > > Michael Brown > Windburn > C&C 30-1 > > > Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 13:38:23 -0500 > From: Bill Bina - gmail > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 30 Mast Step > Message-ID: <03803e6a-8ee

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 Mast Step

2018-01-20 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
properties. The crew laughed and said I didn't want it, they could barely cut it even with sharp chains. Michael Brown Windburn C&C 30-1 Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 13:38:23 -0500 From: Bill Bina - gmail To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 30 Mast Step Message-ID: &

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 Mast Step

2018-01-19 Thread Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List
Old ships used Live Oak, which is a very different wood than White Oak. Bill Bina On 1/19/2018 1:23 PM, Michael Brown via CnC-List wrote: Good white oak is considered to be relatively resistant to water penetration, used for canoes and old sailing ships. https://www.wagnermeters.com/aboutam

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 Mast Step

2018-01-19 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
Good white oak is considered to be relatively resistant to water penetration, used for canoes and old sailing ships. https://www.wagnermeters.com/aboutamericanwhiteoakandredoak/ Working it, bending it and staining it ( or getting epoxy into it ) has usually been the top complaints. Michael Bro

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 Mast Step

2018-01-19 Thread Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List
On my 30, I used oak the first time.  I sealed the ends and faces with epoxy, but apparently didn't do a good enough job as it sucked up water.  Now oak bends very nicely when wet, especially if hot.  Needless to say, within a few years I had to replace because the mast was getting too low for

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 Mast Step

2018-01-19 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Randy Stafford via CnC-List Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 12:44 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Randy Stafford ; Collin Ferguson Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 30 Mast Step Hi Collin, responses inline. Cheers, Randy On Jan 18, 2018,

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 Mast Step

2018-01-19 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
I used epoxy coated white oak. The particular pieces were hard enough that metal working blades and a file provided the best method for shaping them. My feeling is that the original bilge pump configuration did not get the last 2" of water out of the mast step area so the plywood was wet 7x24 fo

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 Mast Step

2018-01-19 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
This talk of collapsed mast steps has my attention since I currently have my step removed and access to the stringers below. I guess C&C changed their thought/design process. There is no wood, only hollow fiberglass stringers and a large aluminum channel that is bolted in place on top to act as t

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 Mast Step

2018-01-19 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Did the mast support on Touche' about 15 years ago. I cleaned out all the old plywood, made a cardboard form leaving a space underneath for drainage from forward and laid in a LOT of layers of glass/epoxy. Not as elegant as some but effective. Millennia from now some archaeologist is going to wo

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 Mast Step

2018-01-19 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
I did a similar repair on my 35 MK I and I think it is pretty much the same. On the 35 there are flat areas on either side of the bilge sump and the bilge sump was spanned by a piece of wood. The mast step was aluminum and not very wide. The structure was essentially a beam with supports on eac

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 Mast Step

2018-01-18 Thread Randy Stafford via CnC-List
Hi Collin, responses inline. Cheers, Randy > On Jan 18, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Collin Ferguson via CnC-List > wrote: > > My mast step stringers were in very bad shape and the mast plate was dropping > into the bilge so I'm replacing the step this winter. I have a few > questions... > > 1). Termi

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 Mast Step

2018-01-18 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Collin, If you haven't seen it check out Paul's write up on his own mast step rebuild. As for epoxy coated hardwood I suggest G10 instead. Or at least a some other 1/2 inch FRP board similar to what Paul used. http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/search/label/MastStep Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1

Stus-List C&C 30 Mast Step

2018-01-18 Thread Collin Ferguson via CnC-List
My mast step stringers were in very bad shape and the mast plate was dropping into the bilge so I'm replacing the step this winter. I have a few questions... 1). Terminology wise, are the lateral plywood supports considered the mast step or stringers?  Or is the heavy cast iron plate that sits on

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 mast step yet again

2013-08-08 Thread Chuck S
Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Atlantic City, NJ - Original Message - From: "Ronald B. Frerker" To: "Knowles Rich" , cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 8:56:57 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 30 mast step yet again Rich, I agree with yo

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 mast step yet again

2013-08-08 Thread Della Barba, Joe
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 10:22 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 30 mast step yet again Ron, Are near a Grainger store? Get a piece of aluminum as a top plate. On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Knowles Rich mailto:r...@sailpower.ca>> wrote: Why not simply ge

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 mast step yet again

2013-08-08 Thread Joel Aronson
board thickness? How thick is a > wrap of matt and epoxy? > Ron > Wild Cheri > STL > > > -- > *From:* Ed Dooley > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 6, 2013 8:09 PM > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List C&C 30 mast step yet ag

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 mast step yet again

2013-08-08 Thread Ronald B. Frerker
Wild Cheri STL From: Knowles Rich To: Ronald B. Frerker ; "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2013 10:23 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 30 mast step yet again Why not simply get some 3/8 aluminium welded up and glass it in? There is nothing per

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 mast step yet again

2013-08-07 Thread Dennis C.
oice for ship building. > > -Original Message- > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Ronald B. > Frerker > Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 4:24 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Stus-List C&C 30 mast step yet again > > Got the

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 mast step yet again

2013-08-07 Thread Knowles Rich
ssing the board instead of just epoxy paint, but won't that be difficult to measure the board thickness? How thick is a wrap of matt and epoxy? Ron Wild Cheri STL From: Ed Dooley To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2013 8:09 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 30 mast step yet

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 mast step yet again

2013-08-07 Thread Ronald B. Frerker
2013 8:09 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 30 mast step yet again White oak is, red oak, not so much. Ed From: Steve Thomas Maple is not very rot resistant, but oak is. There is a reason why oak was the material of choice for ship building. -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 mast step yet again

2013-08-07 Thread Della Barba, Joe
us-List C&C 30 mast step yet again True. -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Ed Dooley Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 9:09 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 30 mast step yet

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 mast step yet again

2013-08-07 Thread Steve Thomas
Re: C&C 30 mast step yet againTrue. -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Ed Dooley Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 9:09 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 30 mast step yet again White oak is, red oak, not so

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 mast step yet again

2013-08-06 Thread Ed Dooley
: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 4:24 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List C&C 30 mast step yet again Got the engine running, so I could shift the mast over to work on the step. (BTW trouble was in the battery cables; corrosion inside the sheathing). I have only two supports and the oak pla

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 mast step yet again

2013-08-06 Thread Dennis C.
Wood_Strength.htm#strengthchart > > Mike > S/V Persuasion > C&C 37 Keel/CB > Long Sault >> From: Steve Thomas >> Date: 6 August, 2013 19:15:01 EDT >> To: >> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 30 mast step yet again >> Reply-To: cnc-list@cnc-list.c

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 mast step yet again

2013-08-06 Thread Knowles Rich
hchart Mike S/V Persuasion C&C 37 Keel/CB Long Sault > From: Steve Thomas > Date: 6 August, 2013 19:15:01 EDT > To: > Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 30 mast step yet again > Reply-To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > Maple is not very rot resistant, but oak is. > There

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 mast step yet again

2013-08-06 Thread Chuck S
inst point loading the material. Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Atlantic City, NJ - Original Message - From: "Steve Thomas" To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2013 7:15:01 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 30 mast step yet again Maple is not very rot r

Stus-List C&C 30 mast step yet again

2013-08-06 Thread Persuasion
As always Google has the answer. http://workshopcompanion.com/KnowHow/Design/Nature_of_Wood/3_Wood_Strength/3_Wood_Strength.htm#strengthchart Mike S/V Persuasion C&C 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Steve Thomas Date: 6 August, 2013 19:15:01 EDT To: Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 30 m

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 mast step yet again

2013-08-06 Thread Steve Thomas
Subject: Stus-List C&C 30 mast step yet again Got the engine running, so I could shift the mast over to work on the step. (BTW trouble was in the battery cables; corrosion inside the sheathing). I have only two supports and the oak plank I used bowed in the middle; probably because I didn&#x

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 mast step yet again

2013-08-06 Thread Gary Nylander
-List C&C 30 mast step yet again Got the engine running, so I could shift the mast over to work on the step. (BTW trouble was in the battery cables; corrosion inside the sheathing). I have only two supports and the oak plank I used bowed in the middle; probably because I didn't

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 mast step yet again

2013-08-06 Thread Ed Dooley
I¹ve been able to buy many scrap pieces of marine plywood from our local boat shop. They¹ve always pro-rated it from a full sheet. Maple is a terrible choice around moisture. I know you plan to seal it, but the my 2 cents for the best choice would be use a good rot resistant wood, solid or ply, and

Stus-List C&C 30 mast step yet again

2013-08-06 Thread Ronald B. Frerker
Got the engine running, so I could shift the mast over to work on the step.   (BTW trouble was in the battery cables; corrosion inside the sheathing). I have only two supports and the oak plank I used bowed in the middle; probably because I didn't seal the edges well enough and water wicked in.  I